The End of the World (of Warcraft) is Nigh

bladester1

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ZiggyE said:
teebeeohh said:
btw why do we horde players get stuck with a racist murderous prick as faction leader?
Blizzard is going to release a free comic online saying why Thrall picked Garrosh. But I agree, it should have been Cairne. Infact, it nearly was, you know, until
Garrosh killed him
It is all explained in the book The Shattering, which in my option, is a great book. $26 is a bit steep in my mind for a book, but it is still a good read.
 

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tombman888 said:
You see, this is a real example of shit hitting the fan. When Deathwing wants everything destroyed, he destroys everything with his own two hands (or claws... or legs... whatever) Unlike Arthas who just sends out a bunch of minions to do his work and fail at it. Anywho, I'll be picking this back up during Christmas time. Rolling me a Worgen druid =D
That's because Arthas= Teen Vader...
 

El Poncho

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Gnome Priest! Huzzah:)

I may have an obsession with gnomes

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teebeeohh said:
until i saw this video i wasn't aware of how much memories i have of those places. and as long as the barrens chat stays alive i am OK with change.

btw why do we horde players get stuck with a racist murderous prick as faction leader?
Dude, we got Wrynn, he's not that much better... Besides, at least you have Sylvanas <3
 

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I hate the release date. Just frigging hate it, can't really play it until my uni works done. well shit.
 

Marowit

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Man, I can't wait to head home from work today(11/23)!

The Shattering happened today, and Trolls can be druids and warlocks finally - not to mention I haven't leveled a Horde character since Vanilla, mmmmm, it's going to be a fun expansion to say the least.
 

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rokkolpo said:
What if you don't have cataclysm? will the world stay normal to them?
The patch is for everyone who plays WoW. The Cataclysm expansion only unlocks the new races and content above level 80.
 

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MmmFiber said:
I know Bolvar isn't dead, but Varian didn't know that at the time.
Baldr said:
WaaghPowa said:
true that, I hate the alliance purely for lore reasons especially Wrynn. Thrall has got to be one of the most reasonable leaders in the story, he's worked so hard to get both factions work together for the common good. When the betrayal of Varimathras and the Forsaken occured at the wrath gate, rather than act rationally, Wrynn declared war on the horde because his friend Fordragon died. He was willing to risk total annihilation at the hands of Arthas just for his own petty revenge.
No, if you played the Alliance Wrathgate side, you would know that the reason Wyrnn doesn't like the Horde is because they locked him up like an animal and made him fight in their arenas for the amusement of the Horde and still wants his revenge.
that may be true, but Varian didn't even know who he was at the time let alone the orcs who found him. He was eventually sent back to Jaina in order to restore his memory. I'm not justifying them forcing him to fight as a gladiator, just saying that they should put aside their differences in order to fight a greater threat, Thrall doesn't hold a grudge for being imprisoned at Durnholde or for the orcs being forced into a prison camps
The Madman said:
I would like to point out that you mention 1 and 2, not 3. Since warcraft 3 thrall has been wanting change and relations to be mended ever since Grom sacrificed himself to free his people from the blood haze. Thrall seems more like a pacifist and only fights when it's necessary.
 

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rsvp42 said:
So Outland and Northrend are still the same? Might feel odd to do 60 levels of "OH MY GOD THE WORLD IS DYING" followed by 20 levels of NPCs who act like nothing's changed. Or did they do something about that too? That's not a new problem when it comes to WoW expansions, but it'd be nice if they figured out a solution.
It's weird looking at what new Horde DK's go through. They start pre-Wrath, go talk to Garrosh in Cata, go back to BC, and then back to Wrath, but with Bolvar instead of Arthas on the throne.
Chuck Worgen or Goblin DK's in there and it gets very strange indeed.
 

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AngryMongoose said:
It's weird looking at what new Horde DK's go through. They start pre-Wrath, go talk to Garrosh in Cata, go back to BC, and then back to Wrath, but with Bolvar instead of Arthas on the throne.
Chuck Worgen or Goblin DK's in there and it gets very strange indeed.
Definitely. I feel like that's what will create WoW's decline eventually. Unless Blizzard revamps everything with every new addition, it's always going to feel fragmented and disconnected. But that's what happens when new content is based around epic, world-changing events. You either have them go on indefinitely, which makes players feel like they're not making a difference, or you "end" them story-wise and then the content feels superfluous and unimportant.
 

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John Funk said:
In patch 4.03a, said Stockton, players would log in to the game and be shown the Cataclysm introduction cinematic....All of the zones will have been irrevocably changed, flying mounts will no longer be grounded in the old world
Not according to Wowhead [http://www.wowhead.com/blog=174106/the-shattering-patch-4-0-3a-hits-azeroth-its-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it]... realms aren't up yet so can't be sure.

Wowhead said:
Cataclysm Changes (December 7th)
- 80+ Zones
- Archaeology
- Flying in Azeroth
- Goblins and Worgen
- Guild Advancement
- Professions above 450
 

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This is why i want to play world of warcraft! But i can't BECAUSE i don't have the mooney to subscribe and im not really bothered and getting a job to pay&play.
 

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John Funk said:
rokkolpo said:
What if you don't have cataclysm? will the world stay normal to them?
The patch is for everyone who plays WoW. The Cataclysm expansion only unlocks the new races and content above level 80.
Alright, Thanks for the info :)

Makes you think though, that ought to be a bloody big patch!
 

ionveau

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WoW is bad new maps dont help, bad content is bad content mo matter how much time they put into it
 

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ionveau said:
WoW is bad new maps dont help, bad content is bad content mo matter how much time they put into it
Obvious troll is obvious

I'm still waiting for the server to come up so I can explore the new world.