Kendarik said:
Fascinating and very telling that so many people in this thread seem to think the only reason to talk to a woman is in hopes of getting some.
You were the one who insinuated that the OP was simply being bitter because he 'missed an opportunity to start a discussion with a pretty girl'. You were the one placing the emphasis on these two aspects implying that the OP actually wanted her, so I attempted to rebuke that claim. If you're talking about simply making friends then I don't see why the words 'pretty' and 'girl' should enter into it, if you're looking to make friends, why does talking to an attractive member of the opposite sex have some kind of greater importance? Surely if you are looking to make friends, gender and looks are irrelevant, you're simply looking for someone you get along with who shares your interests, kind of the exact opposite of someone who revels in pestering and insulting you without provocation.
Kendarik said:
Unless you are just antisocial, talking to people and making new friends is good.
Okay, but the question remains pretty much the same; if I'm looking to make friends, why would I want to do it with the kind of person that approaches me completely unprovoked simply to throw some condescending lecture or obnoxious potshot at my personal tastes my way? Why in the hell would I invite that kind of person into my life so they can beleaguer me further? And I want to make this unassailably clear;
anyone gender and orientation notwithstanding who would come up to me while I'm minding my own business simply to insult me and feels that this is an appropriate way to introduce themselves is precisely
not the kind of person that I want to converse with or associate myself with any further. Yes, making new friends is a good thing, but I feel that being
friendly is kind of a pre-requisite of that, something which by the sounds of things the girl in question failed to do. Seriously I've yet to see you address this,
why should someone make the effort to befriend someone who introduces themselves in such a hostile manner?
Kendarik said:
And I think the OP wouldn't have been so obviously upset and jealous of her moving on to the jocks if he didn't feel inferior to them and wish he could have a girl like that like him too.
I've bolded this word as I feel that it is something that needs hammering home. Even if you?re rolling with the theory that he finds this girl physically attractive, doesn't mean that he actually likes her personality or wants anything to do with her. Sure he could be jealous, but not of
her specifically, rather the concept of a girl (you can swap genders and orientations for this to apply, I'm not singling any gender out here) acting in a more cordial, remissive manner towards people that she finds attractive. You can see my long ass post on page 2 about why there is a double standard at play and why regardless of the content bothering someone in such a manner is pretty damn obnoxious, but here's the abridged version; girl approaches OP, a random stranger, apparently so perturbed by the sight of this busty anime character that she feels the need to berate him and imply he's a lecher (again, she's
real friendly >.>). With no response, girl walks over to the football guys openly admiring women wearing less clothing and she takes no issue with this, acting perfectly amiable towards them. Well, that seems a little inconsistent. You'd think someone who felt so strongly about the representation of women in media would at least raise some concern about her friends openly ogling such unrealistic standards of beauty, no? The girl in question is allowing greater leniency to the football guys, than people like the OP. She's abandoning her convictions to ingratiate herself with one group of people in spite of committing a certain action, while deriding/lecturing another group of people for committing the same action. Ergo, there is a double standard.
Subsequently, the OP sees this and takes issue with it, the girl is perceived to be acting in a hypocritical manner in an effort to appease the attractive jocks. Furthermore, the OP mentions that girl is flat chested, from which one might educe that perhaps the lady saw the buxom anime character and it drove a fucking semi truck right through her insecurities and felt the need to vent her frustrations about how unfair it is (and regardless of what I think of her conduct, it
is unfair) that men place such paramount importance on chest size and create an unrealistic standard of beauty for women to live up to. Of course, she could afford to unload this on the OP, he's a nobody, a scrawny little anime nerd, so who gives a shit? But with her jock friends; taut, buff and handsome, that's potential boyfriend material right there, sister! Can't afford to let that slip through your fingers, no siree, so you can't say anything that might upset them, they're important, they actually matter! So just keep your pretty little mouth shut, swallow your pride and you can walk away with a hunk of your own! ^_^
Oookay, I admit, I'm being pretty damn cynical and rather harsh on this girl that I honestly know nothing about, but to be fair I think you're doing the same with the OP. Sorry, but it's just that I see this kind of thing all the time, quite a fair amount of people are full of shit when they're talking to someone they find attractive. Again, this is regardless of gender and orientation, in fact since I hang around with them more often, its guys I see more often behaving completely out of character when around pretty girls and it's astonishing to watch them absolutely discard their principles in the effort to seem like the most desirable partner. They'll lie about anything from personal tastes, having certain religious views or pretending to be bisexual. Hell, I didn't find out until after I broke up with her that my ex girlfriend (who I'll call Meryl) viciously beat up a girl I was friends with (I'll call her Naomi, she lied about how she got the black eye, I believed her, I'm a dolt) before asking me out because me and Naomi had a one night stand before (we both regretted it) and Meryl was paranoid about Naomi getting to me first, despite Naomi's lack of interest in pursuing any kind of relationship with me. Those were...strange times. Anyway, I'm veering so far off topic that I'm not even in the same orbit, so I'll just finish by saying it seems you?re a bit too willing to take the girl?s side on this. Sure the OP could well be jealous of the jocks as from his perception the same rules don't apply to them, but at the same time I think the girl is altering her behavioural patterns and censoring herself just to seem more accessible to potential suitors. And above all that, I'm going to repeat myself and say that I just don't see
why the OP or anyone for that manner should make the effort to befriend someone who introduces themselves in the kind of intrusive and condescending manner that the girl in question did.
