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Gorrath said:
amaranth_dru said:
U know there will be PC Gamers who are so indoctrinated to this that the joke will just sail over their heads...
There's PC gaming indoctrination? Where do I sign up for that?
You used to get one when you installed EverQuest. I had a helluva time getting the blood out of my carpet.

In the realm of topic, I wonder if anyone remembers the "Brass Balls" achievement from Bioshock: Play through the entire game on Hard without using a quicksave (regeneration chamber). Or how about Hitman: Blood Money on Professional Mode (no saves, highest difficulty)?

Saves? There is no saving, only failing.
 

2xDouble

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Needs some epic music:

Mater of Gaming, I'm pulling the strings
Mashing Quickload to destroy everything
Blind jumps and traps that you never could see
Just give it a try, it will make you scream

You're falling faster
The gaming master
This life loads faster
Obey your master
 

Drake666

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My big pet-peave are with "stealth-action" that encourage save-scuming by telling you "if you fuck this up, even just ONCE, you won't have the ending/achievment you want... you will have to kill every single one of those poor innocent guards... you should probably reload and try a different approach!".

I love Mark of the Ninja and Dishonered, but they encouraged the save-scummer in me... :(
 

thiosk

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Psh you try the platforming bits of half-life. Gordon had all the grace of an anvil in a tutu.
 

Arawn

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Often I forget there is a quicksave element to most games. Instead I rely on the regular saves and check points. I'd probably utilize the feature more should I remember it. They call it hard for a reason; it's hard. But in all honesty the "hard" mode just ups the damage you take from hits, lowers the player's health, lowers the damage you give, and/or raises the enemy's health. I've always played through normal first then attempt the hard mode for the trophy if the game is interesting enough.
 

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Ah, quicksave. The ctrl+Z of PC gaming.

I actually don't use it that much. A lot of the games I play don't allow it. =(
 

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I must admit... Even as a primarily PC Gamer (As in not touched my consoles in about a year) it took me a while to get this (I caught onto it due to comments)

This is possibly due to the fact that the main games I play on PC don't have a quicksave + quickload feature (Mostly multiplayer games)

But yeah, quicksave abuse can make things easier... I typically don't use it, relegating it to purely just long journeys across the Mojave just so I don't waste time if I get murdered by a Deathclaw I randomly walked into (Also, I do QS a fair amount in Skyrim, due to the chance of being insta-gibbed by objects on the floor flying around at high velocity due to some dodgy physics)

Though there have been times where I've abused quicksaving:

Getting into a locked chest I REALLY want with only one lockpick (QS before and keep loading until you open the chest)

Pickpocketing something I really need, since leveling up PP tends to be pretty bad and certain tasks requires it.

But that said, neither Fallout (3 or NV) or Skyrim are actually hard at all, so this superiority about "PC Games being inherently harder" doesn't apply to them... I can't think of any other game that had quicksave and was actually hard (Even without QS abuse)... I think Dark Souls? Didn't check if that had quick save, but as I used a controller anyway...
 

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I honestly don't think I've played any game on the PC where saving and reloading constantly was a need.
Except STALKER the first time I played it. STALKER was fucking hard the first time, just because you're so used to being able to take bullets to the face. But once I got used to how STALKER worked, I got better able to handle it. On easy mode anyway. I've never even attempted hard mode, because there's a challenge and then there's masochism.
 

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Aeshi said:
Yeah, this basically sums up 80% of the games that people like to venerate as "complex/complicated/difficult"

Just spam Ability/Move X with one hand and Consumable/Ability/Move Y with the other and you're good to go for everything bu the super extra-hard post-endgame stuff (that requires you to wear item/set Z as well.)
She is quick saving and quick loading. Not spamming abilities.
 

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guilty. though i have acknowledged this as a problem for a long time... >.> still doesn't stop me from doing it. the lure is just too powerful.
 

Robyrt

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Sadly true. I never learned to quicksave/quickload, so I still get burned by games whose difficulty is built around them. (Half-Life, I'm looking at you.) I much prefer things like the Souls games, which are constantly, quietly autosaving. Quit your game at any time, it won't get you out of your predicament and you won't lose any progress.
 

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These inferior console players do not deserve the glory of the quicksave. They cannot grasp how much more difficult it makes games, to be able to save anywhere and return to that spot. They lie, saying things like "this makes everything extremely easy," "you can abuse it to make random events always turn out in your favor," and "please stop torturing me."

They can never understand. They are not worthy of enough to understand.
 

james.sponge

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Quick save and quick load are rad, the amount of time I saved when revisiting FF games on emulators is just incredible ;) (also frame skipping ftw)

As for TRUE pc games some of them allowed you to abuse save system but then again some games had limited number of saves on higher difficulties (or no saves at all) an ancient practice forgotten by modern game developers.
 

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One unusual feature I found in Far Cry 2 is that instead of saving over the same file, every quick save is saved as a separate file. By the end of several playthroughs, my save scumming had produced 12GB folder of saves. I think all games should keep a record of how often you saved, just to shame you at the end.
 

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A few years ago I wouldn't have gotten this joke. But now that I'm pretty much exclusively a PC gamer, I find it all kinds of hilarious... because it's true.

A bit off topic, don't you guys hate it when a game screws with the traditional placement of the mystical quick save/load keys? Especially when the keys aren't listed in the bindings, so you have to look it up online (I'm looking at you Far Cry 3).
 

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This is how I made it past Jedi Knight II, Desperados, Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines and Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine.
 

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madigan said:
Maybe she's just playing Divekick with Dive! and Kick! bound to F5 and F9?
Or maybe she's just bad at whatever game she's playing currently. That explains her elitist attitude, covering up her failure.
 

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LOL Reminds me of the movie "Next", I watched it, and the first thing that came to my mind is "F9" I think this is what the movie SHOULD HAVE been called... ;) nice one!~

I still considered that "Hardcore" because check point games are the same, only you just "restart from check point" all the time.... waste time, and sometimes you have to go through the same lame cinematic sequences.... either that... or going through the game knowing that you didn't accomplish best you COULD HAVE DONE...
 

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shrekfan246 said:
Gethsemani said:
The comic is a satire on PC elitism and a very striking one at that. I can't think of any PC gamer (myself included) I know that doesn't do this.
I don't. :D

In fact, I use quicksave/loads so little that I would frequently forget they even existed in Skyrim, which multiple times led me to losing about two or three hours worth of exploring because the game had a balls autosave system.
How the hell did you do that? Skyrim has the most friendly autosaving system ever! For what you describe you would have had to not fast-travel, open your inventory or go through a door for three hours! How do you even do that!?