The New Shiny Escapist

Fasckira

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Not seen a single nice comment for the new theme. At best its "Meh... its ok I guess.".

With that in mind, why on earth are we still being forced to use it? I see the broken "Use Old Layout" link for pub members is now gone too so its like theres no hope.

I reckon I may just create an RSS feed page so I can view the news posts as and when they update (as opposed to whatever method of display they're using now).
 

RoyalWelsh

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Feb 14, 2010
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2 days or so later and I still don't like it. The front page is way too cluttered, it just seems like a bit of a mess i'm sorry to say.

Having said that I may get used to the front page in time, however I simply cannot get used to all the white. Please, please, pwetty pwease change the colour scheme. I don't know if I can keep coming back to this site if the bright white stays because it is still hurting my eyes and giving me headaches. It's a shame because I love this site. :(

I'll plough on for the time being though I guess...
 

Buizel91

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Susan Arendt said:
LadyTL said:
*snip*

I understand your frustration but perhaps you could see ours? Alot of us have been coming to this website for years. Alot of us cannot or choose not to pay for the PubClub. Only warning the PubClub members is disrespectful. Also is disrespectful is the off hand thing someone threw out that we Obviously will get used to it in a few days so stop complaining (paraphrased).

I understand it does take time with these changes but your team was informed from the PubClub people that the background was bad. Adding a tiny really light grey gradient doesn't fix that since people are still saying the massive amounts of white actually hurt their eyes even with monitor brightness turned down. I really enjoyed coming here to read the articles and now I can't read any of them. I haven't been able to physically read anything on this website since the change and I really wish I could.

The news page is also muddled and that is another common complaint. The old system had all the posted items of the day in order filling the page. Now it is a tiny space and confusing since there is no good spacing, there is a bunch of front page articles pinned over it and there is no page numbers to keep from getting lost while scrolling.

It has been a few days, we have given it time and alot of us still feel this is a bad change. I don't mind change, plenty of people don't mind change but your and other people's nice comments aside, it feels like you are brushing us off. Particularly with your comment that even three days later you aren't going to change the background that is painful but "think about addressing" it. That tells me you are not taking any of our complaints seriously since even people who don't mind the new structure, have complaints about the background causing pain. Also I doubt all of us are exaggerating the pain the background causes since
I at least get blinding headaches any time I try and read and article since the change. I am not sitting in a dark room either so it isn't just contrast.

As for your suggestion that we're being insulting by not snapping to change the background - first of all, we need to decide what we'd change it to. We've certainly gotten the message that the new color scheme bothers people, but rushing to change it to something would be foolish and likely to just make people even more angry. Whatever we do, we want to make sure it's a good idea, not just slap a band-aid on and then change it again when we make up our minds what the "right" thing to do is. We don't want to jerk you guys around back and forth. That's all. The tweaks, whatever they may end up being, will not happen overnight. We're not blowing you off.
I have a suggestion...You see, i (and probably the rest of us here) liked the old blue borders, whenever i think of the Escapist i think of the colour Dark Blue, Black, a little White, and Yellow (probably because of ZP) it might be a good idea sticking to them colours.
 

MistahFixIt

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So the gradient border along the sides of the page are to be used as more advertising space? I'm looking at an 'hour of twilight' background right now... Am I going to have to see stuff like this all throughout the website now? It was bad enough when the video-player just did it...
 

Deathninja19

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Don Reba said:
Deathninja19 said:
Don Reba said:
I don't understand the complaints about the white. Books are black on white, and everyone has been fine with them for the past six hundred years.
Books aren't backlit on an LCD screen, I mean even at a low brightness it's making my eyes water and I'm in a well lit room.
This still doesn't makes sense to me. Almost all websites are white: Google, Facebook, Reddit, Slashdot, Stackoverflow, BBC, Guardian, National Post, etc. If you are editing a Word document, you're starting at white, if you are working with Excel, it is almost all white, Kindle for PC is black on white by default. Being white is the screen's most common state. If it hurts your eyes in a well-lit room, then something is seriously wrong.
Google I don't stare at for hours so that isn't a problem, The rest work ok as they use space well, use formal easy to read fonts and tend to use even colours because I'm on a widescreen desktop when I maximise the window there is so much empty white space and when I try to focus on something else it is either tiny black words in a sea of white or bright blue colouring. Not only does it hurt my eyes but it feels a lot more unwelcoming too. You will probably say to minimise your window but I shouldn't have to, it's bad design when you are forced to do something to make a website readable.
 

Don Reba

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Deathninja19 said:
Don Reba said:
This still doesn't makes sense to me. Almost all websites are white: Google, Facebook, Reddit, Slashdot, Stackoverflow, BBC, Guardian, National Post, etc. If you are editing a Word document, you're starting at white, if you are working with Excel, it is almost all white, Kindle for PC is black on white by default. Being white is the screen's most common state. If it hurts your eyes in a well-lit room, then something is seriously wrong.
Google I don't stare at for hours so that isn't a problem, The rest work ok as they use space well, use formal easy to read fonts and tend to use even colours because I'm on a widescreen desktop when I maximise the window there is so much empty white space and when I try to focus on something else it is either tiny black words in a sea of white or bright blue colouring. Not only does it hurt my eyes but it feels a lot more unwelcoming too. You will probably say to minimise your window but I shouldn't have to, it's bad design when you are forced to do something to make a website readable.
No, no, I would not tell you to minimize your window. I was genuinely curious why people complain. Your reply and several others explain the problem quite well. Thanks.
 

Azmael Silverlance

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Oct 20, 2009
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So ive had time to surf around the site with the new layout and i got to say im experiencing slow page loading and its not just here and there. Just generally the site loads slow.
 

Rossmallo

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It. Looks. Horrendous. It lags more, it's too bright, and all the show links to the right are gone.

No. No. No. Change it back.
 

Mudkipith

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I can't read anything, it's much more difficult to navigate.
Web 2.0 in full force.
Seriously though, please change it back or give us the option to do so.
 

Zero=Interrupt

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Nov 9, 2009
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It's nice, but it takes forever to load, and I can't easily find the latest, freshest news stories. In short, I miss the blog view at the bottom.
 

Plurralbles

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I find that the twitter and facebook boxes are cliche and stupid.
But other than that it's fine.
 

mlsterben

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Everything on the site seems to move at a snail's pace now, and you can only comment through Facebook?? Once again, we brave souls who live their lives Facebook-free are under Zuckerberg's billion dollar boot.
 

geekRAGE

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I like how the first 15-20 posts are all about the new site being bad lol. That's all I read and after doing that I was glad I wasn't the only one with that opinion.
 

BlindMessiah94

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Nov 12, 2009
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I know no one is probably reading this thread anymore, but I'm not the only one who's getting issues of EXTREMELY long load times and freezes am I?

Hell, just to get to this forum the site took 2 minutes to load....
 

KeyMaster45

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I don't like that the news is shoved to the bottom on the front page, and I really don't like that auto scrolling news ticker just stuck smack in the middle of the page.

It's just messy, there's little semblance of order or logic to its organization. I also think that the employee tweet feed should be shoved lower for something more important, like maybe the news feed. Though the news feed could use some work as well. Before the switch it only showed news, now it shows everything. Which is nice, but it's cluttered now. It gets inundated with all the trailers and features that come in on a daily basis and the actual news stories are shoved into obscurity.

I'll be flat honest, when I come here I don't typically move past the front page unless I'm looking for something specific like an old video or article. Other than that I navigate everywhere based from the front page.

I agree with others, it feels very impersonal now. I just don't like it. When you guys made the switch to the last design I thought it was great, it was an improvement. This feels like a step back. The fact that it's specifically stated in the news post on this that it took 6 months to develop this deign (and the grand total of a week to beta it on the pub club members) leads me to believe that we won't be seeing many, if any changes.

It may sound odd, but the design makes me want to not come here anymore. It's just very off putting and boring.
 

Shadow_Kid

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ahhh it's soo much better now ,
no more chaos
and the colours are nice too i didn't say that before but i didn't really notice it untill now