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mintsauce

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10 out of 10 from Eurogamer, that's a pretty decent recommendation in my book. Lunchbox on Friday :D
 

waffletaco

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I was thinking about getting the LE just for that lunchbox and bobblehead, but I'm broke from fable 2 and I need to save money for snowboarding this winter :X

Fallout 3 is just fantastic. What kind of characters are you guys going to make? I decided to make a smooth talking hacker/tinkerer. (cha and int speech and science/repair) It's just loads of fun.
 

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Ragdrazi post=9.74419.860357 said:
No. Yahtzee is right.
A review is a subjective thing, Yahtzee is an amusingly angry man but that doesn't make him the voice of God. The fact that your opinions of something coincide does not make either of you 'right'.

Oh and I'm very excited about fallout 3 it looks awesome
 

neoman10

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Its funny, I live in D.C. and the news in freaking out over how the game takes place here
 

JayCro

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Pre-order arrives in 3 days. Yes, I'm in Australia. Cannot wait.

waffletaco said:
What kind of characters are you guys going to make?
Think I'll go with a goody-two-shoes specializing in small guns, speech and repair. Not sure how the stat system is going to work this time around but my favourite/easiest build in the originals was strength of 5, agility 9 and the rest varying from 6-8. With the gifted and finesse traits.

I can't be evil on my first run through...
 

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I'm gonna try the dirty ways first and see if its any good and I got high hopes. If it ends up good I'm gonna buy it on the XBOX 360. I have play'd the original games and they are bloody awesome. People complain its too hard but you know what I say? YOUR WUSSIES!

What character I'm gonna make right? Well, like in all roleplaying games the meaning is to make your character just like your self. Me personally am very strong but my agility and endurance are average. My luck is good and I'm intellingt so I'm like a good shooting but slow and a good talker and trader. Thats it really.
 

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Ragdrazi post=9.74419.849801 said:
I don't want to play a game that I can win just by virtue of turning it on and playing it.
This game, I have yet to encounter.

The thing that soured me on Fallout and Fallout II was the fact that EVERY fight was this long-drawn-out miserable resource-chewing grind. Sometimes I'd luck out and my character would get reasonable gear early on . . . and sometimes I wouldn't. It didn't help in 2 that by the time I actually got to the point where I was feeling semi-proficient, I started getting "you're running out of time!!!!!!!!" messages. I was like, what the hell? I've only seen three cities already and you're telling me I'm taking too long?! Screw that, I don't need deadline pressure out of a video game.

I prefer games that become interspersed with easy moments later on so you feel like you're getting somewhere or at least that you can relax a bit. If the game is *so* hard that 20 hours in you're *still* inching your way across boards for fear of aggro-ing too many giant radioactive rats at once, then I'm going to go do something else. The ability to kill people in new and exciting ways doesn't really interest me as a gamer, because the killing is just a means to an end.

Too many options in a computer game can also be a game-killer for me because it discourages exploration. Sure, it was nice finding that stash of ammo in that one area. And then I went to the next area and wound up in a pitched battle. Then a week and a half later I get to the next town and I find out that those were the resistance fighters and I'd just helped out the evil town boss. Now there's no possibility of solving the problem in this town peacefully. Oops. (Not a specific example, I just made that up.)

This may be a result of the fact that I don't like playing with more than one saved game. For me, Fallout and Fallout II were tedious and full of too many "I didn't want to do that!!" moments.

I'm planning to get Fallout 3 when I can afford it. I enjoyed Oblivion despite its flaws and I thought the *concept* of the original games was awesome, so I'm looking forward to a reduction in tedium and hair-pulling.

P.S. Has anyone that played the original games played Arcanum or Lionheart? Both games were made on a similar *plan* to Fallout (although Lionheart was a flop). What did you think of *those* games? I actually preferred Arcanum to Fallout, but it may not have helped that I played it first. Nostalgia games can be a letdown if you've already played a more modern version.
 

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I pre-ordered it, and will be arriving on Thursday. I'm almost tempted to spend $35 to double the ability of my graphics card (SLI)
 

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JMeganSnow said:
Ragdrazi post=9.74419.849801 said:
I don't want to play a game that I can win just by virtue of turning it on and playing it.
This game, I have yet to encounter.

The thing that soured me on Fallout and Fallout II was the fact that EVERY fight was this long-drawn-out miserable resource-chewing grind. Sometimes I'd luck out and my character would get reasonable gear early on . . . and sometimes I wouldn't. It didn't help in 2 that by the time I actually got to the point where I was feeling semi-proficient, I started getting "you're running out of time!!!!!!!!" messages. I was like, what the hell? I've only seen three cities already and you're telling me I'm taking too long?! Screw that, I don't need deadline pressure out of a video game.
You can let them die and continue on, if that's anything.
 

JMeganSnow

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It's something, but if you don't *want* to let them die you have no choice but to go all the way back to the beginning and start over, because you know you don't have enough time left to fix it.
 

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Jumplion post=9.74419.835752 said:
Indigo_Dingo post=9.74419.835745 said:
Jumplion post=9.74419.835633 said:
Indigo_Dingo post=9.74419.835624 said:
CrafterMan post=9.74419.833084 said:
Fallout 3 has a portable nuke launcher.

With that in mind I pre-ordered this game in a second.
Didn't Jak 3 have that too?
I don't recall that...
Yeah, the Peace Makers 2nd modification - the Super Nova.
True, but Fallout's 'BFG' shoots fucking nukes. NUKES! Bite size nukes, but nontheless, NUKES!

There's a BFG9000 sort of weapon in every game nowadays.
 

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Log Dropper M.D. said:
Fallout 2 has a 13 year time limit, which is plenty of time to do everything in the game and then finish the final quest. It just sends you those messages so you still keep the main goal in mind. I played Arcanum and liked it a lot, but it had an even worse interface than Fallout and was much more buggy as well. Not to mention that the skill set was extremely easy to exploit, my character was an unstoppable force 1/3 of the way through the game.
I didn't know what the time limit was, so it was pretty frustrating. I agree about Arcanum being buggy and unbalanced, but I enjoyed the steampunk/magic thing quite a lot, and the world was definitely unusual and well-done.
 

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JMeganSnow said:
P.S. Has anyone that played the original games played Arcanum or Lionheart? Both games were made on a similar *plan* to Fallout (although Lionheart was a flop). What did you think of *those* games? I actually preferred Arcanum to Fallout, but it may not have helped that I played it first. Nostalgia games can be a letdown if you've already played a more modern version.
I played Arcanum, it was quite good. I still favor Fallout, however.

Never even heard of Lionheart :/
 

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Ragdrazi post=9.74419.863837 said:
JayCro post=9.74419.861391 said:
People are only calling Fallout 3 "Oblivion with guns" because it is developed by Bethesda-the same company that made Oblivion.
No. I'm not that shallow. I'm taking the phrase "Oblivion with guns" from the Swedish review of Fallout 3, and from the what I've seen in the previews. I had thought that was understood. Apparently it wasn't.
If you want to get technical. "Oblivion with guns! And a fallout fanservice!(Which we know your going to all buy it because its fallout!)
 

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Maybe I'm just being too inefficient with my guns,(almost no real skill in any gun skill) but I'm almost running on the bare minimum. I just used the last of my rockets on those damn regulators. (1 rocket for 3 guys down to 25% health is good though I guess). I'm actually having a hard time with money and ammo and stimpaks. I love that in a game.

I think the only flaw in the game I find is that the game is in cells again like oblivion. Too many loading times even though it's like like 3-10 seconds. I also really dislike durability in games. It hasn't even screwed me over in fallout 3 yet because I always happen to kill a guy with a really nice laser pistol so i can just repair that using my old one.

On a side note: Did I just ruin tenpenny tower quest line? I finished the quest: tenpenny tower and the ghoul infestation one and then I killed alistair because I wanted his sniper rifle. I'm wondering because Mr. Burke hasn't really given me any other quests since Megaton.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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If you want to use the Rock-It gun, Specialize in Big Guns. Thats the classification its under. Headshot with teddy bear much?
 

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Ragdrazi said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
Bethesda just took a piss on the fallout name.
Well, don't just say it. Tell me why. How.
There is no difficultly curb besides carrying limit, Quests with only one way to beat it. You can't win the game by killing everybody. No stupid path. Need I say more?
 

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Ragdrazi said:
What's no stupid path mean?
In fallout 1 and 2 you could forgo intelligence and your character coudn't talk. And then you could still win the game though.(It added more incentive for replayability.) And yeah. Your intelligence could be 1 in this game and the only thing you would miss out on is perks.(Eh. Skill points to.)
 

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Ragdrazi said:
waffletaco said:
Maybe I'm just being too inefficient with my guns,(almost no real skill in any gun skill) but I'm almost running on the bare minimum. I just used the last of my rockets on those damn regulators. (1 rocket for 3 guys down to 25% health is good though I guess). I'm actually having a hard time with money and ammo and stimpaks. I love that in a game.
Well, that's the first encouraging thing I've read about this. Did you ever play the first two? How's it stacking up?
Well story-wise, hard to say. I haven't gone through the main quest line very much, so I can't really compare it to the other games. Yes I did play the first two. I do enjoy the VATS like in the previous games.(though not having to account walking in AP really helps out) I do wish my speech skill would come up more often. It would've been nice to have speech abilities in a non-quest connotations; I would've liked to extort doctors for discounted/free radiation healing. I suppose it does help for quests though. It does not help against regulators who are on a shoot-to-kill basis unfortunately. Sometimes, I do feel like I'm being punished for not being very proficient with guns. I didn't really have that feeling in the other fallouts.

I say that because there is a LOT of fighting in fallout 3. Not just fighting, but fighting that you can't weasel your way out of in any way. Sure you could run, but the raiders would chip away at your health so much that you might as well have killed them for the xp cause it certainly seems like you fought your way through a horde of raiders to get where you needed to go.

I'm an xp whore, and there are many ways to complete quests. If you cannot convince them to give information, you could hack their terminals, you could just kill them and hope they have the info on their person, or you could do a favor for them (probably killing something). I ended up getting info through speech more often than not and then I would still hack their terminal because you still get xp for doing so. You also do usually get more facets of information this way.

Sorry if it I'm rambling, I haven't slept yet. I've been studying for midterms and playing fallout 3 and I'm foolish :(