The Official Fallout 3 Thread.

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HSIAMetalKing

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Bowstring post=9.74419.853559 said:
I loved Fallout 1 & 2, AND Oblivion. So I guess I'm going to love this game either way.
Same here. Looking forward to nabbing this game tomorrow night/morning/whatever.
 

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HSIAMetalKing post=9.74419.857808 said:
Bowstring post=9.74419.853559 said:
I loved Fallout 1 & 2, AND Oblivion. So I guess I'm going to love this game either way.
Same here. Looking forward to nabbing this game tomorrow night/morning/whatever.
Even though I liked Oblivion/Fallout more than Fable 2, it's just terrible timing for me. (midterms) I can't do what I did for Fable 2. (amg midnight release! oh whoa it's noon already? I guess i'm sorta hungry.)

I'll pick it up at midnight release and play it on the week after :(
 

Bulletinmybrain

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You should all vote for Resistance 2 to be game of the year. Because americas ass needs a saving in it. I think thats a gaming first for FPS's. Plus the impeccable AI and great weapons.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Cheeze_Pavilion post=9.74419.857897 said:
JayCro post=9.74419.855309 said:
Lets say for arguments sake Blizzard was making Fallout 3. Would people say it's Diablo with guns? Probably. That is exactly why that argument means nothing to me.
Heh,

'WarCraft is StarCraft with lazers!'

'Colonization is Civilization with wagon trains!'

Which, yeah--maybe that will be the most apt comparison. F3 might turn out to be to F1/2 what Civ:Colonization was to Colonization, at least based on what I've heard about the five games.
But arn't there lasars in StarCraft used by the protoss interceptors.(Well lasar beams but you get the point.)
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Cheeze_Pavilion post=9.74419.857909 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=9.74419.857904 said:
Cheeze_Pavilion post=9.74419.857897 said:
JayCro post=9.74419.855309 said:
Lets say for arguments sake Blizzard was making Fallout 3. Would people say it's Diablo with guns? Probably. That is exactly why that argument means nothing to me.
Heh,

'WarCraft is StarCraft with lazers!'

'Colonization is Civilization with wagon trains!'

Which, yeah--maybe that will be the most apt comparison. F3 might turn out to be to F1/2 what Civ:Colonization was to Colonization, at least based on what I've heard about the five games.
But arn't there lasars in StarCraft used by the protoss interceptors.(Well lasar beams but you get the point.)
Ooops--those are wrong way 'round. Use the converse for WC and SC.
Ah. Then yes you have a point then.
 

Spartan Bannana

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ThaBenMan post=9.74419.857708 said:
Or maybe you quoted the wrong post?
That would be what happened
Here's the post I tried to quote:
Ragdrazi post=9.74419.852792 said:
ThaBenMan post=9.74419.852711 said:
Jeez, why does this thread keep getting buried? Is nobody excited about Fallout 3?
Nah, see I've actually already downloaded and played Fallout 3, and I found it to be a completely empty experience and really over hyped.

Of course when I played it they were calling it Oblivion.
He's not serious, he's just making a bad and unfunny joke because he hates Oblivion
 

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Bulletinmybrain post=9.74419.857881 said:
You should all vote for Resistance 2 to be game of the year. Because americas ass needs a saving in it. I think thats a gaming first for FPS's. Plus the impeccable AI and great weapons.
Uh-huh...I'm gonna go ahead and pretend that you've played at least 2 other games, because chances are, one of them will have had this
 

Spartan Bannana

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Richard Groovy Pants post=9.74419.858623 said:
Spartan Bannana post=9.74419.858617 said:
Bulletinmybrain post=9.74419.857881 said:
You should all vote for Resistance 2 to be game of the year. Because americas ass needs a saving in it. I think thats a gaming first for FPS's. Plus the impeccable AI and great weapons.
Uh-huh...I'm gonna go ahead and pretend that you've played at least 2 other games, because chances are, one of them will have had this
2 pop to mind (that i played recently), World in Conflict and Call of Duty 4
And there you go bullet.
 

ThaBenMan

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Spartan Bannana post=9.74419.858610 said:
ThaBenMan post=9.74419.857708 said:
Or maybe you quoted the wrong post?
That would be what happened
Here's the post I tried to quote:
Ragdrazi post=9.74419.852792 said:
ThaBenMan post=9.74419.852711 said:
Jeez, why does this thread keep getting buried? Is nobody excited about Fallout 3?
Nah, see I've actually already downloaded and played Fallout 3, and I found it to be a completely empty experience and really over hyped.

Of course when I played it they were calling it Oblivion.
He's not serious, he's just making a bad and unfunny joke because he hates Oblivion
Ah, ok.

Midnight release tonight! I can't wait!
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Have you seen the AI in the R2 Co-Op beta? No? If I didn't know they were computers I would say they could be players. They do not stand in the open, As soon as you start shooting at their way a regular one will head for cover instead of standing out in the open.(If there is cover.) The AI cover each others back, Like for instance Two will sit back to back to each other over a teamates corspe so no one can revive him. If a group of four move towards you some rush and some stand on top of a hill while the rushers distract you. The regular chimera will hide behind a big guys shield. Also the AI will actually flank. For real, I never thought I would see it but they do. This is not static flanking like in most games, But when the enemies spawn through there teleporter some will head directly at you but others will flank depending on if your teams all focused in one direction and such. Very dynamic. I have not seen such good AI in a long time.

/Fanboy_Love_of_resistance2

And after thinking about it. The AI in Call of Duty 4 are alright but I don't see them using any real tactics. They are really static feeling, Like you can instantly know what they are going to do. You run up to them they with smack you, You stay back they will shoot at you. They do not change cover and yeah..
 

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It's released coming friday in Europe, where I live. I upgraded my computer especially for Fallout (and of course other games too, but primarily Fallout)
 

Bulletinmybrain

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DYin01 post=9.74419.860002 said:
It's released coming friday in Europe, where I live. I upgraded my computer especially for Fallout (and of course other games too, but primarily Fallout)
It comes out tommorow in the U.S. :p
 

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I've never played the original Fallouts, and I hated Oblivion, but I am very excited for FO3. Frankly I'm interested because it looks like a fun FPSRPG in an interesting universe with some great use of incongruous music. Besides, aimlessly exploring a ruined dystopian city is more interesting to me than aimlessly exploring Generic Fantasy Land #900000.

A question for the more familiar, though: If Fallout is set hundreds of years in the future, and the nuclear apocalypse itself doesn't take place until a long while from now, then why is the pre-disaster future semi-reverted to a 1950's America feel?
 

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Ragdrazi post=9.74419.860274 said:
thecaptainof post=9.74419.853540 said:
I fail to see what's wrong with that, apart from possibly the change of target audience. I loved Oblivion, adding guns will add a different side to the experience but if it's anywhere near as good, I'll be happily calling it my favourite game of the year.
What did you love about Oblivion? Tell me. Because I couldn't even get through it. Weak shallow quests. Same voice actors over and over again. Blank repetitive environments. Was there even a single plot twist? So tell me, what was the appeal again?
Weak shallow quests: some, but there's plenty of deeper quests if you play it for long enough.
Same voice actors over and over again: really don't care.
Blank repetitive environments: possibly in caves and dungeons but the outside world, not so much.

...and no, there's probably not a plot twist, but does there have to be one?

Long story short, can't someone just like a game without being forced to analyse and justify it? Aside from the fact that it provided a bloody good distraction from real-life drama, I just thought it was entertaining and I don't see why I should have to justify it any further.
 

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Ragdrazi post=9.74419.860376 said:
JayCro post=9.74419.855309 said:
I wish people would stop with the "It's Oblivion with guns" argument. I don't see how that can be said when the games are based in entirely different universes. Oblivion with guns would be just that, running around a medieval town blowing up people and demons with your nuke launcher. Whereas Fallout is a different world that has it's own history, people and so on.
That seems a weak refutation. You're familiar with the term GTA clone. By your definition that term would have been invalid to use just because the setting was different each time. I don't follow.
You're missing the point. Maybe you didn't read my entire post.

JayCro post=9.74419.855309 said:
Lets say for arguments sake Blizzard was making Fallout 3. Would people say it's Diablo with guns? Probably. That is exactly why that argument means nothing to me.
People are only calling Fallout 3 "Oblivion with guns" because it is developed by Bethesda-the same company that made Oblivion. Those GTA clones you speak of are not developed by Rockstar so it is a valid argument to call them clones.

I can put it in another way if you like. If I were to develop Fallout 3 there would be none of this "Oblivion with guns" crap because I had nothing to do with making Oblivion.

Hope that clears everything up.
 

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crowTrobot post=9.74419.860941 said:
A question for the more familiar, though: If Fallout is set hundreds of years in the future, and the nuclear apocalypse itself doesn't take place until a long while from now, then why is the pre-disaster future semi-reverted to a 1950's America feel?
It's just for style really, even if it doesn't really make sense. I believe the term is "retro-futurism". Maybe it could be rationalized as an alternate universe where the 50's style outlasted the actual 1950's?

Picked up my copy at the midnight release, collector's edition. I LOVE the Vault Boy bobblehead, just as I expected, and the art book is really cool as well. I'll try the game out tomorrow, really looking forward to it!