That's an arbitrary distinction. I went to film school and when I'm watching a movie, part of my brain is in film student mode analyzing and interpreting it. That's part of the fun for me, getting to more deeply engage with and understand the media I enjoy. By the standard you've set up, I'm doing it wrong and should only watch movies the way you watch movies, which I assume does not entail an academic analysis.Less "playing" and more "interpreting" I guess? Distorting precious cultural artifacts which people are passionately devoted to, to promote your political ideology in a mercenary utilitarian way is bound to ruffle the feathers of the earnest fans.
Games shouldn't be treated as means to an end, they should be ends in-and-of themselves.
To be fair, that says something about the state of the industry, that the most reportable news is how shitty they consistently are. I mean, what really needs to be said about games that are already out? Has anything really been different or groundbreaking enough to merit attention outside of the business practices behind them? And games yet to come, is there anything of note on the horizon that's truly exciting that won't be filtered through the sleaze and greed that all but defines the industry as it stands?Every Jimquisition episode now is about the evils of some company or another, and it just gets stale because often he isn't even talking about a new event and instead just digging into the same things. There used to be variety in his Jimquistions and I just dont feel like he is doing that anymore. Every Monday it feels like he is going, "Hey did you know that video game companies are fucking shit?"
I actually did. Not my fault you refuse to pay attention, are this slow, willfully oblivious, thick headed, or only paying attention to reality when it's convenient for you. I suggest you go back and look at the first two pages, because you get nothing else. I already gave you answers several times already.Just what is the track you think this topic is supposed to be on? All you did is throw up a video. You didn't raise a point or pose a question. So what is this topic supposed to be about? Is this just a comments section for the video? Are we just supposed to list games with politics in them, like you've been doing?
You know, 99% of the time I play a game, I don't really notice the political theme that runs throughout. I am just playing the game, and either having fun, or I'm not.I edited the above post with a response to the "playing correctly" bit but yeah, I think there's a nuance between interpreting and playing. Interpreting comes after you play.
What you're doing is called "not being present". It's like going to a comedy store and saying "that's funny" instead of laughing from the heart.That's an arbitrary distinction. I went to film school and when I'm watching a movie, part of my brain is in film student mode analyzing and interpreting it. That's part of the fun for me, getting to more deeply engage with and understand the media I enjoy. By the standard you've set up, I'm doing it wrong and should only watch movies the way you watch movies, which I assume does not entail an academic analysis.
"Distorting precious cultural artifacts," Jesus Haploid Christ. They're games, not cave paintings. Is really that dou arifficult for you to imagine that other people just have different takeaways from these games than you do?
Again, your argument amounts to nothing more than, "Stop playing video games wrong!"
Yeah that's cause you're present. You're going into it with the game being an end in and of itself. Not going into it to further your political ends through whatever means may avail themselves to you that day.You know, 99% of the time I play a game, I don't really notice the political theme that runs throughout. I am just playing the game, and either having fun, or I'm not.
Usually what happens to me is I tend to notice the specific political message (if any) within the game's world if I'm already not liking the game. If the gameplay has already lost me, then the story has to keep me and that makes me a bit more critical of it.
However if I am enjoying a game, I hardly notice any of the politicial undertones that run through it. I mean I do see them, like with the environmental theme in Final Fantasy 7, but since the game itself is so much fun i don't really care.
I think we are all a little bit guilty of this right? Where the annoying progressive messages that might be there are only highlighted because we've already not been enjoying the game as it is. That certainly had a large part of what made me dislike The Last of Us 2 so much.
I don't think I can think of a single game or even movie that i would have otherwise enjoyed if it didn't slap me in the face with the messaging. But on the other hand, I tend to think that good writing and good gameplay show off examples of how to do progressive messaging correctly.
With characters like the gay hunter in The Witcher 3, Bill from the first LoU game, and even the anti corporate messaging in Final Fantasy 7. The game around all these examples, highlight how you can effectively get a message across without interuptting the flow of the game itself.
Way to prove me right on you being judgmental of how others consume media. "Stop watching movies wrong!"What you're doing is called "not being present". It's like going to a comedy store and saying "that's funny" instead of laughing from the heart.
You do see the rest of my post below the quote you have here right?Way to prove me right on you being judgmental of how others consume media. "Stop watching movies wrong!"
I looked at the first two pages, and didn't see anything from you that could answer the question of "what is this topic supposed to be about?" so I can only conclude that this statement is not true.I actually did.
If, for example, you lived in China and the government wants to take away a game or a movie that you enjoy, but you have the opportunity to give testimony to keep it around, would you defend it? Would you tell the court that "they're watching the movie wrong" and that the art isn't against China's ideals?"Distorting precious cultural artifacts," Jesus Haploid Christ. They're games, not cave paintings. Is really that difficult for you to imagine that other people just have different takeaways from these games than you do?
Yeah, after you told me I was doing it wrong and then repeated your assertion that people are playing games wrong because they don't play them the way you do.You do see the rest of my post below the quote you have here right?
I clearly wrote that there's a place for that, referring to how you watch movies.
No I do the same thing you do sometimes, I just acknowledge it as being me not being present and try to correct myself. After you play enough games you start seeing hitboxes and animation cancels and invulnerable frames everywhere.Yeah, after you told me I was doing it wrong and then repeated your assertion that people are playing games wrong because they don't play them the way you do.
Once again, your problem if you can't figure it out. You must really love throwing accusations at people don't you? Don't answer that. I already know the answer.I looked at the first two pages, and didn't see anything from you that could answer the question of "what is this topic supposed to be about?" so I can only conclude that this statement is not true.
Of course, you're welcome to prove me wrong, or better yet, just come out and say what you think this topic is supposed to be about. Or you could just throw more insults at me, which is totally not the tantrum-behavior you accused me of engaging in.
I can do both at once. I'm sorry you can't. But hey, you don't have to if you don't want to. See how I'm not forcing you to write any essays there?No I do the same thing you do sometimes, I just acknowledge it as being me not being present and try to correct myself. After you play enough games you start seeing hitboxes and animation cancels and invulnerable frames everywhere.
Doesn't mean it's good just before I do it too.
You may be able to do that but the people who I was describing above with relation to politics sure as hell can't lol.I can do both at once. I'm sorry you can't. But hey, you don't have to if you don't want to. See how I'm not forcing you to write any essays there?
Like I said, they don't have to if they don't want to. They are free to enjoy media however they want to.You may be able to do that but the people who I was describing above with relation to politics sure as hell can't lol.
According to Ben Kuchera it was Russian supremacist propagandaTetris!
This is kind of interesting. Because video games are art, everyone can interpret that art anyway you want. And there are some people who project their ideologies upon a piece of artwork that might not ever have been part of the creator's intention right.Like, does knowing that I have a more analytical eye toward cinema in any way diminish your enjoyment of the movies you've seen? Have other people seeing a feminist idea in Horizon Zero Dawn retconned the hours you enjoyed with the game out of existence or render it unplayable from here on out? Be honest.
Well, I've never heard anybody complain about the political themes in GTA, or Final Fantasy, or Bioshock, or Call of Duty, or Battlefield, or (to use your example) Sonic the Hedgehog.That's a claim.
Do you have anything to back that up?
That is the premise of "Death of the Author," yes. Authorial intent is nice to know from an academic standpoint, but you cannot control how the world will react to a piece of art you release into the public. Mary Shelley almost certainly had no idea that her scary story she thought up during a vacation in Switzerland would end up inventing an entire new genre of fiction. Nor could her friend, Dr. John Polidori guess that his vampire story would shape the vampire myth in pop culture for centuries to come. And the Wachowski sisters never could have predicted that their sci-fi movie about coming out would be appropriated by an anti-feminist, anti-queer movement.This is kind of interesting. Because video games are art, everyone can interpret that art anyway you want. And there are some people who project their ideologies upon a piece of artwork that might not ever have been part of the creator's intention right.
I mean the only game I can think of where people where confused about why those dirty dirty girls where in the clubhouse was Battlefield V.But I've heard those complaints endlessly about games having gay characters, or women doing things.