So who wears the pants in this relationship?
- yeah go fuck yourself buddy, just cos I'm being nice to my girlfriend......christ
- yeah go fuck yourself buddy, just cos I'm being nice to my girlfriend......christ
The single most destructive phrase...
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Most hated phrase? Anything involving politics are religion are generally a no no to strangers. So I guess saying something about "Fags and those towel headed terrorist are both destroying our Christian values." would be the most destructive phase I could think of. But I rarely have heard anyone actually say it. (Yes I said rarely)
I guess in my personal experience the phrase that affects me the most is "Man up". Next to most guys where I live I come off a bit feminine. I wear clothes that match, I keep my nails nice, conditioner in my hair, I shave often, and make sure I smell nice. I'm also quite skinny.
This type of man in the South doesn't always end well. I look frail and weak. So I get man up talks frequently. It grows old. No, I don't want to drink myself into a coma, no I wont tell my wife to "Shut the fuck up and make me a sandwich". No, I wont watch sports, its dull to me. And just because I'm good with a gun doesn't mean I want to hunt.
Sigh...
I guess in my personal experience the phrase that affects me the most is "Man up". Next to most guys where I live I come off a bit feminine. I wear clothes that match, I keep my nails nice, conditioner in my hair, I shave often, and make sure I smell nice. I'm also quite skinny.
This type of man in the South doesn't always end well. I look frail and weak. So I get man up talks frequently. It grows old. No, I don't want to drink myself into a coma, no I wont tell my wife to "Shut the fuck up and make me a sandwich". No, I wont watch sports, its dull to me. And just because I'm good with a gun doesn't mean I want to hunt.
Sigh...
Treating rape like its the essence of the devil I think is perfectly appropriate - not speaking of it is a trap that far too many fall into. Its the reason im typing now is because I believe that the essence of rape is something that society tries to hide away and not admit really exsists - much like prostitution. And im sorry but if you honestly think that judicial and legal processes combat rape you are very mistaken.The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Due to current thinking on sex crimes and due to the "innocent until proven guilty" philosophy that is present in most western societies - not that I have a probolem with innocent until proven guilty but its problems are evident with the nature of sex assault and rape. Most rape crimes are not even prosecuted as its victims are far too often presented with ridicule and derision as opposed to anything constructive or logical.
In cases of sexual assualt the legal system fails as there is usually far too little material evidence and a great many ways for the defence to claim "sex yes but rape no". As I said I have no issue in general with the "innocent until proven guilty" philosphy but with sex crimes it is insufficient to provide a satisfactory system to convict the guilty and protect the innocent.
This is why I consider trivialsing rape in the manner that you seem to think appropriate is so damaging. I dont have a problem with people joking about murder because people who commit such crimes are brought to justice in about 90%-95% of cases. In cases of rape justice is the rare rather than the common - and society by and large does not recognise this fact. For exactly what reasons I am not going to specualte upon here.
Suffice to say for myself, having never been a victim of rape but understanding it from the perspective of some who have, I would deem humour around sex crimes to be not just trivialising, but damaging to the chances of victims to recieve any kind of justice. It is also for this reason I would give anyone who is found to be fabricating a charge of rape to get a sentence in line with a rapist.
If justice is not seen to be done then justice ceases to deter those who would succumb to its temptations.
"In my opinion" needs to be scrapped. Look, anything said that isn't hard verified fact is your opinion. This phrase pretty much exists so that easily offended people can tone down people with *actual* opinions.
"Don't take (thing) so seriously." Oh really? And this is usually said by people who are taking it way more seriously than I am. If you don't want me to take it so seriously, why are we having a serious discussion, you huge hypocrite?
"I don't mean to (foo), but..." along with all its cousins, "I'm not racist, but" and "No offense, but" and all of that. If you have to preface a sentence with a justification for why you're not a bad person or you're not intending to do something bad or mean something bad, don't say whatever it is you were going to say. Either say it and own up to it, or don't say it.
"You're overreacting." And who qualified you to say how I should react to anything? This is a common nerdy thing, because (overgeneralization alert) nerds are logic-obsessed folk who think that emotions invalidate any argument. Well, if you say someone is being overdramatic or overreacting, chances are they're just being human, and you're being a jackass.
Yep, there you go.
"Don't take (thing) so seriously." Oh really? And this is usually said by people who are taking it way more seriously than I am. If you don't want me to take it so seriously, why are we having a serious discussion, you huge hypocrite?
"I don't mean to (foo), but..." along with all its cousins, "I'm not racist, but" and "No offense, but" and all of that. If you have to preface a sentence with a justification for why you're not a bad person or you're not intending to do something bad or mean something bad, don't say whatever it is you were going to say. Either say it and own up to it, or don't say it.
"You're overreacting." And who qualified you to say how I should react to anything? This is a common nerdy thing, because (overgeneralization alert) nerds are logic-obsessed folk who think that emotions invalidate any argument. Well, if you say someone is being overdramatic or overreacting, chances are they're just being human, and you're being a jackass.
Yep, there you go.
Everything starting with "Listen buddy" is bad. Very bad. Oh, and of course the good old "you're the Hitler of [insert something here]".
"Cheer up." Unhappiness is a natural reaction to things being far off from what we'd like them to be. The idea that everyone should be happy all the time, or that anyone can be happy just by wishing it, is absurd, unrealistic, and unhelpful. Lasting unhappiness is cause for concern but that's a different discussion.
"No homo, but....." or any other assertion of heterosexuality. What you're really saying is, "I'm so emotionally fragile, so terrified of what others think, that I'm willing to look like a complete ass just to avoid a slight ribbing by the bigoted cave-dwellers I call friends."
"You wouldn't understand." I find this phrase is most often used by people who I completely understand, but wish I didn't. A guy at my work is a great example. Let's see -- You're grumpy today, insulting everyone around you, being surly and uncooperative, but I "wouldn't understand." Could it be that your latest girlfriend left you (like all the others) because you started yet another fight with her, because you're mentally and emotionally immature, have no ambition, are a penniless couch-hopper at the age of thirty-nine, and think any time you're the slightest bit unhappy you have the right to attack everyone around you for as long as you remain unhappy? See, I understand perfectly.
"You can do anything you put your mind to." Oh, really? Suppose I decide I can fly by jumping off a cliff? Gravity will just let me have my way? Willpower and focus are great, and can lead to great things, but they do not confer omnipotence, nor even a reasonable facsimile thereof. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
"Anyone who isn't an optimist ('like me,' is the unspoken implication) is a cynic. There's no such thing as a realist." This is absolute bullshit that infuriates any genuine realist who hears it. To truly be a cynic, one would have to expect the worst in absolutely every situation. Every time I got in my car, I would have to believe the car would break down before I got to my destination, that I would have to walk several miles home (in a pouring rain that came out of nowhere) only to find my house on fire when I got back. A possibility exists for that scenario, but it's extremely unlikely. Acknowledging the possibility of bad things does not equal belief that the worst will always happen.
"No homo, but....." or any other assertion of heterosexuality. What you're really saying is, "I'm so emotionally fragile, so terrified of what others think, that I'm willing to look like a complete ass just to avoid a slight ribbing by the bigoted cave-dwellers I call friends."
"You wouldn't understand." I find this phrase is most often used by people who I completely understand, but wish I didn't. A guy at my work is a great example. Let's see -- You're grumpy today, insulting everyone around you, being surly and uncooperative, but I "wouldn't understand." Could it be that your latest girlfriend left you (like all the others) because you started yet another fight with her, because you're mentally and emotionally immature, have no ambition, are a penniless couch-hopper at the age of thirty-nine, and think any time you're the slightest bit unhappy you have the right to attack everyone around you for as long as you remain unhappy? See, I understand perfectly.
"You can do anything you put your mind to." Oh, really? Suppose I decide I can fly by jumping off a cliff? Gravity will just let me have my way? Willpower and focus are great, and can lead to great things, but they do not confer omnipotence, nor even a reasonable facsimile thereof. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
"Anyone who isn't an optimist ('like me,' is the unspoken implication) is a cynic. There's no such thing as a realist." This is absolute bullshit that infuriates any genuine realist who hears it. To truly be a cynic, one would have to expect the worst in absolutely every situation. Every time I got in my car, I would have to believe the car would break down before I got to my destination, that I would have to walk several miles home (in a pouring rain that came out of nowhere) only to find my house on fire when I got back. A possibility exists for that scenario, but it's extremely unlikely. Acknowledging the possibility of bad things does not equal belief that the worst will always happen.
" is dangerous to our youth/causes "
Every new Media has been subjected to this fear of everything new. The fear of something new isn't all that bad and we can't blame anyone for fearing new things, after all, we do live our lives and do fairly well and anything new has the potential of being harmful to a livestyle that has served well so far.
It's the Phrase that connects the new thing to something bad that slows the Progress of pretty much any media. It leads to Censorship to the Point where this new Media can only be puplished in disguise. See the Comicsbooks, which where completely outlawed at some point in a rather dark time in U.S. History. You could publish a Magazine that contains some Comics, but no Comicbook.
Progress of a new Medium halted because of fearmongering.
Our favorite medium, the Videogame, didn't get it as bad. True, their have been some Publications about this Medium which where less then factual but at least it still isn't outright forbidden to sell a Videogame, provided you aren't violating age restrictions.
A certain kind of Journalism which we can observe in pretty much every Newsoutlet profits from this fearmongering and this Phrase has been setting Journalism back by being more profitable than real Journalism and has robbed Humanity of many years worth of Progress for pretty much any new kind of media.
Every new Media has been subjected to this fear of everything new. The fear of something new isn't all that bad and we can't blame anyone for fearing new things, after all, we do live our lives and do fairly well and anything new has the potential of being harmful to a livestyle that has served well so far.
It's the Phrase that connects the new thing to something bad that slows the Progress of pretty much any media. It leads to Censorship to the Point where this new Media can only be puplished in disguise. See the Comicsbooks, which where completely outlawed at some point in a rather dark time in U.S. History. You could publish a Magazine that contains some Comics, but no Comicbook.
Progress of a new Medium halted because of fearmongering.
Our favorite medium, the Videogame, didn't get it as bad. True, their have been some Publications about this Medium which where less then factual but at least it still isn't outright forbidden to sell a Videogame, provided you aren't violating age restrictions.
A certain kind of Journalism which we can observe in pretty much every Newsoutlet profits from this fearmongering and this Phrase has been setting Journalism back by being more profitable than real Journalism and has robbed Humanity of many years worth of Progress for pretty much any new kind of media.
Jack what the hell are you doing hereMontezuma said:
OT: Whenever someone says "Its not heavy/hard/etc" When I was younger my bodybuilder of a dad would tell me to haul something without help and when I couldn't lift it he would say "Its not heavy, look!" and pick it up with one hand. WELL GEE MAYBE ITS BECAUSE I'M NOT A CONSTRUCTION WORKER WHO HAULS HEAVIER THINGS AROUND ALL DAY.
Someone said "Suck it up, Princess" to me once - this was at the time I was paying my way through library school at 6-8 hours a day and working 20+ hours a week. I think I was probably complaining about finding the time to do homework. Or eat. Or sleep. The girl who said this to me was a single mother who was single because she slept with her husband's best friend and lamented the position she was now in... except she now lived with the best friend and he drove her everywhere and bought her nice things, because some men are assholes and morons. And I don't think she even graduated high school.
I still get mad over thinking about that comment.
Also... nothing good ever comes from someone saying "Samantha" when they want to speak to me instead of "Sam". Same principal as parents or teachers - even now when I hear my full name, I know something's wrong or not going to end well.
To sum up: Someone using your full name instead of yuor shortened one/nickname and "Suck it up, princess/buttercup" or similar thereof.
I still get mad over thinking about that comment.
Also... nothing good ever comes from someone saying "Samantha" when they want to speak to me instead of "Sam". Same principal as parents or teachers - even now when I hear my full name, I know something's wrong or not going to end well.
To sum up: Someone using your full name instead of yuor shortened one/nickname and "Suck it up, princess/buttercup" or similar thereof.
"I'm not even going to dignify that with a response."
NO! You just DID respond. But you were responding to say that you are not responding. Just not to whatever point I just raised. Instead, you were trying to belittle my point while asserting your self-imposed moral superiority. Attempting to execute a "holier than thou" attitude while ignoring whatever it was I mentioned, Combined with the assertion that they "Win" by default because I'm suddenly beneath them.
NO! You just DID respond. But you were responding to say that you are not responding. Just not to whatever point I just raised. Instead, you were trying to belittle my point while asserting your self-imposed moral superiority. Attempting to execute a "holier than thou" attitude while ignoring whatever it was I mentioned, Combined with the assertion that they "Win" by default because I'm suddenly beneath them.
Well you're wrong, jokes won't affect how sex crimes are treated in court. If you don't think that these crimes are being dealt with correctly then arguing about jokes on a forum isn't going to change anything, especially when the jokes don't trivialize the crime.Mr_Spanky said:
You're giving rape more priority than it needs and seem more than happy to jail people accused of rape and then free them and swap them for a liar if they're found innocent. To be honest I've lost all interest in arguing with someone I've decided is white knighting.
Woah Woah Woah WOAH!...Ldude893 said:
WHAT!? Has this been spoken aloud mid conversation? Or is that "things that would piss me off if said in my presence"?
If it's the latter then...
I can't imagine how that would even come up in conversation, let alone ignite some reaction.
Yeah, that one annoys me to no end as well. In addition to the "You wouldn't understand" line. Both are just cop outs to deny the legitimacy of any counter argument.Colin Bagley said:
Even worse is when they use the first middle and last names. If someone throws all three names at me I know it's time to either deny everything and/or run like hell.IndomitableSam said: