maxben said:
Candidus said:
No, no, no, no, no.
Dragon Age 2? Really?
Let's see. There's Anders Cullen, the borderline plagiarized-from-Twilight brain-fart of Hamburger Helper. "I love you, but I'll hurt you, Oh, I can't control it!". Repeat ad nauseum. Moving on...
Fenris. Picked him up. Never took him with me because he's just a dirty heap of tween fodder. "Hrrrr, what they *DID* to *ME* -smoulder--smoulder-". Fuck off. Next.
Merril. The one whose story you know from start to finish the moment you see the blood magic and hear the words "but *I* can control it". Charming and boring equally.
Some Dwarf. Dashing rogue. Talks dirty with Isabella. I took him with me everywhere and still can't remember his name. Says it all.
Isabella was alright. Substantial, but not my cup of tea. A reluctant pass for Isabella.
Who else was there? The male archer. Bland as hell, was pretty much just a vessel for yet another accent. SO DIVERSE.
I actually can't remember anybody else. Still, no f'ing way on the Skyrim/DA2 combine. Dragon Age 1 and its expansion, now that'd be okay.
I disagree heavily. Anders is not trying to control it, he agrees with Justice at his core even if sometimes he feels uncomfortable. The Anders I understood was an intelligent version of the chaotic good character, where we see that the rules might not matter in the face of Justice.
Fenris I didn't use, but to claim that a character that mopes about an actual problem like slavery is tween emo fodder seems ridiculous. There is a difference between someone whining that no one understands them and someone who has gone through traumatic stuff. What would be legitimate to "whine about" if not slavery???
Merril is a little generic except that she doesn't have to lose to the power. Characters who say that they can handle the Dark and Forbidden are technically not supposed to be able to do it by the end of the story. The fact that she can use it and get really goddamn powerful makes you reconsider the ban on blood magic in the same way as Morrigan as those made by weak and fearful creatures. However, her personality contrast to Morrigan makes her even more interesting because she assumes she can use the power for good, not just neutral personal success (as Morrigan does).
The Dwarf's name is Varric and if you can't remember the character that narrates the story you've got a problem. His personality is shown at the beginning and at the ends.
Isabella was awesome! I romanced her and told her I loved her. She threw it in my face and betrayed me. Awsome!
Yes, Sebastian is boring and I have nothing good to say about him. Worse, he came in a DLC.
You're also forgetting Aveline and your brother or sister. I liked Aveline because her comments showed that she was constantly out of her depth. She is a simple person that wants to reduce good and bad into simple rules. She is the lawful good character, and I am glad they played it as simple rather than over-righteousness (which is the cliche).
In what games did you like the characters?
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Anders in Dragon Age: Awakening encounters a mage spouting about how the Circle has to be destroyed and the mages freed, and he is disgusted, telling the warden that, while he doesn't agree with how tight the circle is run, he still thinks it's much better than Mages being stoned to death, attracting demons and having no way to control their power.
He has done a COMPLETE fucking 180 in terms of personality, actions, beliefs, and character in general. You can say "Oh but he's merged with Justice now" and I can respond "GREAT! so you fucked up two characters, congratulations"
Fenris is an insufferable JRPG character lost in a WRPG. I'm sorry but the brooding white haired elf (who's Eyebrows don't match by the way) with his lyrium tattoos and his "YOU WOULD NEVER UNDERSTAND MY DARK PAST", wielding a 2-hander bigger than he is, made fucking Cloud Strife Circa ADVENT CHILDREN look Well adjusted and happy.
Merill is retarded. I don't mean that as her character is retarded, I mean she is LITERALLY fucked in the head, Bioware tried to capitalize on Tali and make a 'Moe' Character for Dragon Age, what we got was a complete fucking idiot, who's every line of dialogue grated on my fucking nerves as she "Giggle how cute am I" with all her dialogue, and I was HAPPY to put her out of her misery. then again I killed almost all my party so maybe I'm just a monster. Or maybe they shouldn't be so terrible. And she is NOTHIGN like Morrigan. MORRIGAN looked down on Blood Magic and making deals with demons, she knew better because Flemeth taught her better, Merill is supposed to be the fucking FIRST to the Keeper and she's making retarded mistakes that every mage ever is told not to make.
Oh but if there was ever a message for "Mages are fucking horrible and need to be locked up" it was DA2, the only non-blood mages in the game are Bethany and Anders and the latter is a Terrorist. Oh wait there was the Saarebas, but they're qunari and they know better.
As for your family, Douchebag annoying brother who did nothing to endear himself until Legacy came along OR complete bland flat sister. I can see the siblings just OOZE personality.
Aveline and Varric... eh they were fine.
What about Isabela?
What ABOUT Isabela? Her personality is "How many people have I fucking slept with" and "I love freedom, innuendo, innuendo" what was I supposed to take from that, that the character I knew for all of 5 minutes in Origins, was now a party member? Big Whoop.
Want party members I DO like in various games? Sten, Jolee Bindo, Sanger Zonvolt, Bart, Pretty much everyone from Nier, Everyone in Planescape: Torment, a lot of characters who don't serve to go out of their way to fucking ANNOY ME.
Now lets get one thing clear, you can like these characters, I can not ever tell you that the emotions you felt with them were wrong. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
But they are badly written characters, this is a fact. This is non-negotiable, They are the shallowest, most painful characters I ever had to put up with.
There was a single time in DA:O where I didn't have the dialogue option I wanted, I wanted to explain my values of strength and freedom to Morrigan, because she had her own opinions and there was never a chance. Don't say "That's unreasonable" because Planescape did it and it's old as hell.
In DA2 there was NEVER a moment I didn't wish for different dialogue options. The game was trash, It literally had 2 characters who weren't complete shit, and the only 'Gameplay' improvements was giving more than 4 straight lines for 'Skill Trees' and making the combat faster. It's a pity the combat became complete shit however, not to mention the graphics being eye raping terrible, the soundtrack being even MORE non-existant than the one in Dragon Age: Origins, The story being a terribly plotted convoluted mess of contrivance and bullshit, the COMPLETE lack of effort resource wise, and the most painful dialogue ever concieved by man, containing more of the same 'Joss Whedon' funny, except even HE manages to be legit witty sometimes, DA2 can't even aspire to that.
It is an abortion, a scar upon the world, it's not just god awful, it's boring. The cardinal sin of video games.
