The solution to all the world's problems

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Kuchinawa212

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riskroWe said:
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Dude are you on something? Every human has the right to be equal to each other. They may have differences sure, but at no point does that make one group greater then the next. No you can't force people to be all be the same. That's why socialism fails. I know that.
Well 'greater' depends on what you're referring to, doesn't it? No person is objectively better than another, but some people are better than others at certain things, yes?
Every human has the right to be 'treated' equally, so that their individual talents may flourish. Everybody is dealt different cards, but the rules of the game are the same for all players.
yes certain people are specialist in what they do. But that doesn't make a whole group of people any better the the next! That's the important aspect.

WHAT? You just finished saying that he keeps his nose out of it. That means he would either have no control what's so ever and we have no government at all or he is a ruling tyrant that keeps tabs on everyone and everything so that can strike down people that fall out of line. So what is it? And you can't have both.
Yes he keeps his nose out of financial and business affairs, because he's too lazy and stupid to run that sorta thing and he knows it. :)
But when it comes to social conduct he makes sure everybody is calm and rational about it.

It's both, but for two different things.[/quote]
I just said it CAN'T BE BOTH! The Dictor is one man! If he had some peons to move around as he pleased say so! If not it's a dictorship in which he controls everything, and if you say he's too lazy to control anything, then people give way to panic and rioting. Which over throws this stupid idea of yours
what is wrong with you? You just say the Jewish aren't equal to everyone else and now you're just pissing him off?
You're the one who mentioned the jews[/quote] NO stop Right there! You made the retarded statement '*snipped like a jew*' You brought it up
, so I'm rolling with it. It applies just as well to women, tennis players, people who's name begins with T, and any other group of people you could possibly think of.

He shouldn't be getting mad, that's the problem with society that I've been trying to highlight from the beginning.
Drugs aren't the answer. They never are to any long term problem. That's what you aren't understanding. You shove weed into him he's only going to feel loopy for a bit. That's not going to fix him from getting mad again
 

stabnex

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I've said this before but nobody seems to be listening.

Fire.

Fire solves EVERYTHING.

Purge. Renew. Resolved.

I for one think we should drop nukes down every volcano on the planet so that it turns inside out and the entirety of life gets to start over from the tiny bits of primordial sludge that was so far at the bottom of the ocean that it wound up on the surface during the upheaval.
 

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Dwarfman said:
I'm pretty sure George Orwell in 1984 - although I haven't read the book so I can't quote directly - depicted Big Brother using passive inducing drugs as well as mind control techniques to ensure a docile population. Incidently 1984 is also a book on HOW NOT TO RUN THE WORLD!
Careful.
Yes, George Orwell's 1984 was a warning on many things (that I won't list here), and yes, there were drugs used when: <spoiler=Spoiler'd just in case anyone still wants to read the darn thing :p>Winston (the main character) is being tortured, and a drug is used on him to get him to say anything, through use of manipulating his memory.However, this drug is not used on the population at large. Big Brother is always a good example of a revolution gone bad, or particularly bad dictatorship, but drugs aren't used in such a way as to be relevant to this topic.

OT: Nice use of Aristotle's quote, but I think you might find this wouldn't work in practice. Perhaps in time, if all the kinks are worked out (and there are quite a few), and then set in stone, it could work, sure. But that would take a long time, especially as we have a world that works... well, it works on some level at least. :p
The main problem is getting people to accept a stoner as their world leader. o_O

Everyone else, please. Read his post(s), he doesn't actually say that it's mandatory for everyone lest they need to "chill out". Yes, that's a very vague statement, but it also means that not everyone in the world needs to take the drugs.
Also... try to take this topic as not entirely serious. He has alluded to the fact that perhaps it's not as serious as he initially made it out to be. :p

My personal view is that no, this wouldn't work... But I have chuckled at the preceding pages of comments, and it is an interesting idea, at the very least.
So, good work. :p
 

Dwarfman

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riskroWe said:
But there is organisation - the state still exists, people still pay taxes, the police still enforce the laws, it still organises all that crap that people go on about.

The difference being that the sole arbiter of the state who has the power to overrule everything is incredibly lazy, and only interested in doin' his own thing.
Errrmm... Actually that is the definition of an anarchic rulership. No matter what the country still functions ie police, taxes etc. Point of fact the anarchists or people's popular government was voted in by Spain and was the controling government at the time when Franco rebelled.

Think of anarchism as controlled chaos.
 

Solytus

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Though I have issues with most of your utopia, I do agree that the world's population seriously needs to "just fuckin' relax."
 

101194

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How exactly would this guy get into power and remain in power? Otherwise fuck yeah that's a pretty swell idea...Sorta.
 

DanielO

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Yes, our current constellation of society is under a lot of pressure, mainly only for its own sake: Self-sustaining this overcrowded world is already more than enough incentive to work your ass off. Think of the amount of extra deaths a more mellowed out society, incapable of supporting it's own healthcare, elderly, children, would cause. Yes, it would be better for the people doing the mellowing out, but I don't think a lot of people will be able to once they see the co-dependency we're in. Also, the country first to collaps onto itself by selfindulgence and relaxation would be a viable target for other not-so-nice nations.
 

The Hairminator

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Criminal elements would take the power, oficially or unoficially and we'd live in fear of them instead. And then eventually, everything would colapse and revert to anarchy. Not that I dislike anarchy.
 

Inverse Skies

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Ummm... I don't you've put as much thought into this as you should have. What about the economy? And soveriegnty of states? How do you go about setting policies for the people? Why basically confine everyone to a life where when they do anything wrong their punishment is to be drugged until they calm down? Hallucinogenics are not the answer, nor is a dictatorship. Society functions pretty well as a whole right now, there is no need for a major change such as this.
 

The Hairminator

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Inverse Skies said:
Ummm... I don't you've put as much thought into this as you should have. What about the economy? And soveriegnty of states? How do you go about setting policies for the people? Why basically confine everyone to a life where when they do anything wrong their punishment is to be drugged until they calm down? Hallucinogenics are not the answer, nor is a dictatorship. Society functions pretty well as a whole right now, there is no need for a major change such as this.
Doesn't work. People starving and dying from AIDS in millions in africa.
We are ruining the environment for imediate economic gain. We also have lots of dictatorships left in the world, and capital punishment still excists. We do need a central government, and not that UN crap.
 

CouchCommando

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messy.....sounds like it will end messy. Isn't that kinda what the sultinates used to be like, sitting around smoking hash and punishing anyone they deemed 'uncool'
 

Inverse Skies

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The Hairminator said:
Doesn't work. People starving and dying from AIDS in millions in africa.
We are ruining the environment for imediate economic gain. We also have lots of dictatorships left in the world, and capital punishment still excists. We do need a central government, and not that UN crap.
A central government wouldn't work, there is simply too much disagreement over international law as it is to have any central form of power even being remotely close to working. It all depends on where you are, the Western World, and large parts of the East have fine economies and a healthy and prosperous. Not all countries are going to be like that yes, but a central form of government does not solve that. There would simply be too much bickering and logistical problems for it to be instated.
 

rokkolpo

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it would be one hell of a week!

and then food runs out because no-one works anymore.
 

ben---neb

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The soultion to all the world's problems? There isn't one. The sooner people realise that the better. All we can hope for is the best of the worst. Which is why I support liberalism. At the very least it means that I mess up my own life not the government.

ps. That was a bit depressing to write. Oh look, blue sky!!! And birds singing! And the sun shining down on the land! And colourful flowers! And leaves to jump in! Wooooh!
 

EMFCRACKSHOT

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Your idea is stupid. the army and the police would be off hunting pink elephants, the economy would break down and the guyswho sell drugs would be put out of business.
We cant solve all the world problems, but here is an idea for you: Make poverty history, eat the poor
 

Autumnflame

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forcing people do do drugs to control them is worse than the worst fascist leader.

your taking away peoples freedoms to choose and forcing them to conform to your view of whats right.

another rant by a pot head who is so doped up they cant even put forward a logical argument just a rant on lets all do pot everything will be fine if thats the best pot can inspire let it be an example of why we shouldn't do it.
 

GrinningManiac

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No...just no.

There is no real argument I can muster against you, sir, because arguing against this would like be...well...arguing with a druggie. He's not thinking on a logical level, he'd sooner use the unicorn bursting out of your stomach as an advisor than say "chill out"

And what if he has a bad trip, anyhow? Our dictator would have thousands killed because They're Out TO Get Him!