Look, dude. I don't think your going to win that. Drugs will never be a final best solution. It is a shitty blanket cover to make things alright for right now. But down the line will be nothing but destruction
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People wouldn't support the overthrowing of a dictator who isn't oppressive unless they have something to gain. Malevolent didctators aren't stupid. They place themselves and there supporters right where they need to be. They smile and do all the right things and everyone loves them. THEN...riskroWe said:
The interesting thing about 1984, Blake's7 and movies like Equalibrium is that the dictator seems benevolent. The average citizen loves them and they are apparently free to do as they wish. The only spanner in the works are these strange free thinking terrorists who wish to destroy everyone's peace and harmony.
LOLOLOL!!Kuchinawa212 said:
That's your twisted idea of a utopian society. I reject equality, vehemently. Equality is disgusting and unnatural.
The 'system' isn't run by the dictator. He's far too lazy to stick his nose into complex economic issues. The 'system' is a free market economy, run by nobody other than the people who participate in it.
Dude.... No..no on so many levels. My idea of perfect society is not that at all. That's a dictatorship's goal for society. And what's wrong with being equal. So circle back to what you said earlier. Is it wrong the Jewish are equal to everyone else? To you it is. Since Equality isriskroWe said:
and for your next point. In a dictatorship that dictator MUST. MUST. MUST run it. It's all based on what he does. and if he does nothing then everything goes to shit in a week.
Ahhh I see now. The style of government you're referring to is called anarchy. Your leader is not a dictator who as the name suggests directs and dictates his will but rather an anarchist. Who effectively is a head of state but rather in ideal alone. There is no real government authority as authority is directed by the people based around the ideals of the figure head. This should not be confused with socialism which actually has a celtral government.riskroWe said:
In theory it's not such a bad idea, but flimsy and full of holes. The real problem is organisation. This was discovered in the Spanish civil war prior to WWII. The anarchists due to their natural state of being were decimated by Franco and his fascist allys
I'm not saying that chilling out fixes problems, I'm saying that concern as a reaction to problems is the cause of most of the other problems.stinkychops said:
True. Can you think of another way to calm people down? 'Cuz that's the point of it. If listening to Enya and doing some yoga does the trick, that'll work too.
Splendid! Private industries who strive for efficiency and customer satisfaction will deliver much better services!
Wait wut?
This government only has one law, one doctrine, one mantra, one directive to divert all their resources to enforcing - Chill out.Dwarfman said:
Anyone caught with too much ambition and greed is violating it, and will be quite conspicuous.
But yes, just like any other society it runs the risk of being taken over by some charismatic dickhole. That's the way of humanity. And just like any other society, the governing body is taking measures to prevent this.
The difference is that here they are genuinely free to do as they wish. The freethinkers would never be silenced, as long as they weren't particularly aggressive or violent.
I have no problems with that... JKJRCB said:
OT: yeah, terrible Idea, nothing would get done, and just WHO would make all of those drugs? we would have to re-enstate slave labor so that the slaves could make us the drugs and get paid with the drugs, but then they wouldn't be chill, so we would have to drug them out, so then the drugs wouldn't be make to drug them out with.......
to sum up my thoughts:
yeah it's a terrible Idea.
and no, for some reason I can't stop capitolizing the 'I' in Idea
How about this?
People like the OP (which is the majority of the human population, stoner or not) will work their dayjobs, while those who are better at thinking will harness their productive capacity for worthy endeavors. These workers will go home and have large enough paychecks to put food on the table, have a couple cases of beer on the weekends with their neighbors, put gas in the tank, and buy non-essential items which give them a sense of fulfillment. Entertainment such as American Idol, varioius soap operas, and news outlets will keep them intellectually stimulated, entertained, and feeling "worldly". Their lives will be complete, more or less. None of them will have to worry about larger and more meaningful things than themselves, and those they interact with face-to-face. Meanwhile, those who are better at thinking, and have a sense of responsibility toward bettering the human condition through science, medicine, and technology will quietly shape the future of human civilization.
I sincerely do not see how the world can exist any other way. Humans are not created equal, and most are unfit, either in cognitive ability or desire, to govern anything beyond their own lives (and some can't even manage their own lives responsibly or successfully). These people simply need the opportunity to be productive, and stay out of the way of those who have the vision, ambition, and responsibilty to advance human civilization now and in the future; not only on earth, but eventually across the expanse of space.
I am not joking, I am not being sarcastic. This is Elitism, and this is what I believe.
People like the OP (which is the majority of the human population, stoner or not) will work their dayjobs, while those who are better at thinking will harness their productive capacity for worthy endeavors. These workers will go home and have large enough paychecks to put food on the table, have a couple cases of beer on the weekends with their neighbors, put gas in the tank, and buy non-essential items which give them a sense of fulfillment. Entertainment such as American Idol, varioius soap operas, and news outlets will keep them intellectually stimulated, entertained, and feeling "worldly". Their lives will be complete, more or less. None of them will have to worry about larger and more meaningful things than themselves, and those they interact with face-to-face. Meanwhile, those who are better at thinking, and have a sense of responsibility toward bettering the human condition through science, medicine, and technology will quietly shape the future of human civilization.
I sincerely do not see how the world can exist any other way. Humans are not created equal, and most are unfit, either in cognitive ability or desire, to govern anything beyond their own lives (and some can't even manage their own lives responsibly or successfully). These people simply need the opportunity to be productive, and stay out of the way of those who have the vision, ambition, and responsibilty to advance human civilization now and in the future; not only on earth, but eventually across the expanse of space.
I am not joking, I am not being sarcastic. This is Elitism, and this is what I believe.
But there is organisation - the state still exists, people still pay taxes, the police still enforce the laws, it still organises all that crap that people go on about.Dwarfman said:
The difference being that the sole arbiter of the state who has the power to overrule everything is incredibly lazy, and only interested in doin' his own thing.
But the Jewish aren't equal to everyone else. The main difference, that which separates them from everyone else, is that they practice Judaism. :SKuchinawa212 said:
I mean they should be 'treated' equally, discrimination is horrible, but you can't force us all to be on the same level playing field. Not everybody is identical, to deny that is the height of ignorance. And to force everyone to be equal by helping the unfortunate and punishing the fortunate is discrimination in itself.
He is running it. He runs it by making sure everybody is calmly going about their business.
Wait just a fucking minute. Those who don't take drugs will succeed more than those who do... but you're advocating putting a pothead in charge of everything? That is so many colors of wrong I don't even know where to begin.riskroWe said:
You know what, fuck this. I'm washing my hands of it. You're either a massive troll or a fucking dingbat, and either way I've wasted all the time I'm prepared to waste on you.
And incidentally, I'm part Jewish. And I'm not your "bro," before you even say it.
All I have to say is you plopped you self in a very bad position. And now you are shooting behind the eight ball. You don't have much in the way of a long term plan, if you had that, maybe I could change my tune.
Well, considering his idea has already been applied to me. I was deemed too 'sad' for normal society. SO they arrested me and gave me happy pills. That made me more sad......so I got more pills. In fact, if they find out that I stop taking my pills, they can arrest me and force me to take them.
DRUGS ARE BAD!...(unless they are licensed pharmaceuticals. Then they are the sure to everything.)
Eg. We have noticed that you are depressed. Have some panic disorder pills. Also take these pills that are horribly addictive, and go do some puzzles.
DRUGS ARE BAD!...(unless they are licensed pharmaceuticals. Then they are the sure to everything.)
Eg. We have noticed that you are depressed. Have some panic disorder pills. Also take these pills that are horribly addictive, and go do some puzzles.
Dude are you on something? Every human has the right to be equal to each other. They may have differences sure, but at no point does that make one group greater then the next. No you can't force people to be all be the same. That's why socialism fails. I know that.riskroWe said:
He is running it. He runs it by making sure everybody is calmly going about their business.[/quote]
WHAT? You just finished saying that he keeps his nose out of it. That means he would either have no control what's so ever and we have no government at all or he is a ruling tyrant that keeps tabs on everyone and everything so that can strike down people that fall out of line. So what is it? And you can't have both.
riskroWe said:
Well 'greater' depends on what you're referring to, doesn't it? No person is objectively better than another, but some people are better than others at certain things, yes?Kuchinawa212 said:
Every human has the right to be 'treated' equally, so that their individual talents may flourish. Everybody is dealt different cards, but the rules of the game are the same for all players.
Yes he keeps his nose out of financial and business affairs, because he's too lazy and stupid to run that sorta thing and he knows it.
But when it comes to social conduct he makes sure everybody is calm and rational about it.
It's both, but for two different things.
You're the one who mentioned the jews, so I'm rolling with it. It applies just as well to women, tennis players, people who's name begins with T, and any other group of people you could possibly think of.
He shouldn't be getting mad, that's the problem with society that I've been trying to highlight from the beginning.
Trolling is god's work.