Turns out we were wrong all along, this is how spoony really left
http://youtu.be/WlclUwqDo3s
http://youtu.be/WlclUwqDo3s
The funny part is the implication that Bob was ever funny to begin with.And That said:Movie stopped being funny when he STARTED trying to be funny.
Here here...darksuccubus said:come on, people, lets get this thread to 40 pages! I've been reading this thread for a week now so I'm not going to say the same thing again, I just agree with 60%vs40% thing and I hope that Spoony gets treatment and takes a break, if necessary.
Ah! Okay that makes sense, you guys don't even have the extra power school officals do. Rightyo.TheDrunkNinja said:Keep in mind most of the campers were the children of caucasian middle class families who could and were willing to sue anything and everything if they thought they could get away with it.SaneAmongInsane said:No no, it just perplexes me they could get in trouble BEFORE getting physical.
Everytime I've ever had to deal with authority figures it was always after a punch was thrown.
You know, like public elementary schools in Connecticut, only outside and zero pension for faculty.
Well, being "uncivilized" wasn't the problem. Really, he was just adding more fuel to the fire by continuing to argue and escalating into a tantrum. There were so many other ways he could have handled it, and what acting that way earned him in the long run was letting the whole camp know he could be provoked extremely easily.SaneAmongInsane said:Ah! Okay that makes sense, you guys don't even have the extra power school officals do. Rightyo.TheDrunkNinja said:Keep in mind most of the campers were the children of caucasian middle class families who could and were willing to sue anything and everything if they thought they could get away with it.SaneAmongInsane said:No no, it just perplexes me they could get in trouble BEFORE getting physical.
Everytime I've ever had to deal with authority figures it was always after a punch was thrown.
You know, like public elementary schools in Connecticut, only outside and zero pension for faculty.
Still feel bad for the kid though, from the story sounds like he was doing the right thing... I mean maybe not in a civilized society sense, but he was standing up for himself.
Victim of just not seeing the bigger picture.TheDrunkNinja said:Well, being "uncivilized" wasn't the problem. Really, he was just adding more fuel to the fire by continuing to argue and escalating into a tantrum. There were so many other ways he could have handled it, and what acting that way earned him in the long run was letting the whole camp know he could be provoked extremely easily.SaneAmongInsane said:Ah! Okay that makes sense, you guys don't even have the extra power school officals do. Rightyo.TheDrunkNinja said:Keep in mind most of the campers were the children of caucasian middle class families who could and were willing to sue anything and everything if they thought they could get away with it.SaneAmongInsane said:No no, it just perplexes me they could get in trouble BEFORE getting physical.
Everytime I've ever had to deal with authority figures it was always after a punch was thrown.
You know, like public elementary schools in Connecticut, only outside and zero pension for faculty.
Still feel bad for the kid though, from the story sounds like he was doing the right thing... I mean maybe not in a civilized society sense, but he was standing up for himself.
It was more or less an incident that started a chain of events that made the whole summer a pretty miserable experience.
But like I said, he was an elementary age kid. He didn't know any better and didn't have the maturity to show just how much worse he made his situation by "standing up for himself" like that. It would have been so much better for everyone if he just walked away and let the counselors handle it when another camper is being disrespectful, which the other boy clearly was.
Yep, or more simply a victim of just having a childlike mind, which no one can ever blame him for.SaneAmongInsane said:Victim of just not seeing the bigger picture.
It's not a rumor. He himself confirmed he's diagnosed with Bipolar II. It doesn't absolve him of his actions, but it helps us understand how it got to that point.JSVira said:I understand there is a rumor floating around that he was depressed, but this issue could have been handled way better by all parties involved then it was. From what I've gathered, it was no one person's fault. It was a combination of various factors that contributed to his firing.
exactly but that will not happen which is why most of us are still mad. There was no justice here, justice implies that you hold everyone accountable for their actions and that they be punished fairly.Blackout2012 said:Hopfully, Lupa will get the suspension that Spoony did for continuing to fan the flames on twitter. And Holly will be terminated for being unprofessional. Since Spoony left because they couldn't agree on Twitter it is only fair that the other two face some sort of consequence. After the punishments are doled out then the situation will be fair across the board and everyone can go back to getting back to normal, whatever that is.
I don't know who this Spoony guy is, but after seeing that video that you linked, I can't say that I like that Lordkat guy at all....And That said:snip
Phelous I don't care about. Let's be honest, if Phelous wasn't dating Lupa do you really think he would be jumping into this? I would hope not. I would figure he would be like the majority of the reviewers and just leave it be. I'll be happy enough to just stop watching his reviews. Case closed.renaissance_nerd said:Blackout2012 said:Hopfully, Lupa will get the suspension that Spoony did for continuing to fan the flames on twitter. And Holly will be terminated for being unprofessional. Since Spoony left because they couldn't agree on Twitter it is only fair that the other two face some sort of consequence. After the punishments are doled out then the situation will be fair across the board and everyone can go back to getting back to normal, whatever that is.
Spoony may have chosen to leave but the fact there has been almost nothing done to Lupa, Phelous or Holly for their roles. Of course they hide behind the excuse that they don't discuss disciplinary actions in public, and I ask why not? they seem to discuss everything else. They faced no consequences for it, in fact the first video of the new "block" after the incident was a Lupa video, in very poor taste after everything imho.
it may not have been Lupa's "fault" but she was still one of the main instigators on twitter and Lordkat's stream. Her boyfriend (phelous) being a pussy whipped sheep was also one of Noah's main antagonists from CA. I've already spoken on how unprofessional I think Holly handled everything , she basically just let the fire burn instead of trying to put it out. A professional HR director would have come down hard on anyone not following instructions to shut up about it, in almost any other company a HR director dropping the ball this bad would be in the unemployment line. It doesn't encourage people to do their jobs if they know there are no consequences for not doing it, I place that failure on Mike, Doug and Rob. You can't claim to be professional and not hand out professional discipline when it's needed. It's one thing to be a group of friends making videos, it's another to claim to be a professional company.
Holly was hired in June 2010, that it also around the time Channel Awesome began it's crusade against "inappropriate" material. Now it could be CA had this stance all along but had no way to enforce it. More likely it seems to me Holly is pushing her own personal agenda and not necessarily the company's. She is censoring/blocking/reprimanding anything SHE finds offensive, not necessarily what CA finds offensive. You have to put personal bias aside and enforce what the company wants you to, and i don't think she is doing that.Blackout2012 said:Phelous I don't care about. Let's be honest, if Phelous wasn't dating Lupa do you really think he would be jumping into this? I would hope not. I would figure he would be like the majority of the reviewers and just leave it be. I'll be happy enough to just stop watching his reviews. Case closed.renaissance_nerd said:Blackout2012 said:Hopfully, Lupa will get the suspension that Spoony did for continuing to fan the flames on twitter. And Holly will be terminated for being unprofessional. Since Spoony left because they couldn't agree on Twitter it is only fair that the other two face some sort of consequence. After the punishments are doled out then the situation will be fair across the board and everyone can go back to getting back to normal, whatever that is.
Spoony may have chosen to leave but the fact there has been almost nothing done to Lupa, Phelous or Holly for their roles. Of course they hide behind the excuse that they don't discuss disciplinary actions in public, and I ask why not? they seem to discuss everything else. They faced no consequences for it, in fact the first video of the new "block" after the incident was a Lupa video, in very poor taste after everything imho.
it may not have been Lupa's "fault" but she was still one of the main instigators on twitter and Lordkat's stream. Her boyfriend (phelous) being a pussy whipped sheep was also one of Noah's main antagonists from CA. I've already spoken on how unprofessional I think Holly handled everything , she basically just let the fire burn instead of trying to put it out. A professional HR director would have come down hard on anyone not following instructions to shut up about it, in almost any other company a HR director dropping the ball this bad would be in the unemployment line. It doesn't encourage people to do their jobs if they know there are no consequences for not doing it, I place that failure on Mike, Doug and Rob. You can't claim to be professional and not hand out professional discipline when it's needed. It's one thing to be a group of friends making videos, it's another to claim to be a professional company.
Lupa just decided to grind the ax aganist Spoony and ending up catching hell for it. I truthfully wouldn't mind if she had come out and said "Yeah I hate the guy and wanted him off the site." That wouldn't be a stance I would agree with, but it would at least be the truth. Watching everyone try to portray her as a crusader is what gets on my nerves. And to be fair people around her like Phelous and Oancitizen are trying to make her a saint. It seems after the inital storm she has gone to ground and isn't going to say anything else about it. Again, I'll be satisfied to stop watching her reviews. Does she deserve a suspension, yup. But she isn't going to get one. Case closed as well.
Holly is the part where I have a problem. The first time I saw her pop up on a Sad Panda video to block him from making a joke about Heath Ledger I thought it was cute and clever. However, after seeing her twitter and the way she has conducted herself it's not what HR people do in the "real world." If CA was a true company she would be out of a job, end of story.