The TF2 Spy & Sniper Update, your thoughts
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Yeah, there's just no logic in pc gaming for me, every six months your hardware is obsolete!sooperman said:
But, I do like some pc games, Sim City for one.....
Erm, to get moneys when people (who may have already tried the game) buy it to get the shiny new toys.rainman2203 said:
I don't feel like I'm making aaany sort of progress anymore, getting achievements is just pointless. And I still don't have anything of the drops after playing for a pretty long time.
Oh well TF2 is still a fun game.
Oh well TF2 is still a fun game.
Mike, less of the retarded trolling please. If you don't know what you're talking about then don't speak, please. My 6 year old computer can play TF2, and that was no gaming rig. You, sir, fail (esp since my significantly younger original Xbox can't play TF2. Which system has the more longevity?mikecoulter said:
).On topic, this is annoying - one of the reasons I kept picking up TF2 was because of the character updates - the new achievements and unlockables gave a reason for playing, as they do with any game. Now however if you can stand around for 15 mins and unlock shit where's the point? Seeing someone with unlocks no longer means that they're a competent player - it means nothing now :'(
Bad move, Valve - and I'm saying that even though there was no way in hell that I'd ever get milestone 3 on most characters :/
I spent £1000 pounds on a Dell about 4/5 years ago, and had to spend about £90 upping the ram and getting a remarkable deal on a graphics card. But it's by no means state of the art. Runs pretty much everything, but people rant about Intel I7's as if they're must have. My Dell has one core and is considered "obsolete" but, runs anything I've tried. But still, people advise the newest and latest things. Which is why console gaming is for me. You get a guaranteed 5 years of having top of the line equipment.oliveira8 said:
How exactly have I "Trolled" this topic by giving an opinion? And admitting it's just not for me?Wicky_42 said:
The statement "Every six months your hardware is obsolete" is incorrect, and commonly made by console fanboys trolling PC threads or within console vs PC threads. At the very least it is a misrepresentation of PC gaming, the spreading of lies and misinformation that helps no-one and serves only to stagnate ill-informed opinions.mikecoulter said:
That and the fact that it was an off topic criticism that served no purpose other than the one stated above.
I am in no way a fanboy, I even praised Sim City. Possibly I should rephrase obsolete with, no longer top of the line. And for people who don't want to adjust their systems from time to time, console gaming could offer a guarantee of more economical security in the long run. Also, it was an off topic remark that sprouted from an earlier on topic remark.Wicky_42 said:
Well, how was it broken then? I played before the scout update and after and not so much difference.BillyWentBoom said:
As for this update... it seems like a pretty serious botch so far. Unlocking items is now completely random which Valve kept a secret. That's stupid for a start. If they announced an idea like that, the community would shoot it down in minutes, but now they've just implemented something that nobody likes.
Oh wait... I forgot something. You now unlock achievements randomly too, which means that even if they didn't implement random item drops, we'd still unlock items randomly!
They had the same problem with left 4 dead briefly. I managed to get lamb 2 slaughter as a survivor on campaign for example. But why they made the same mistake for TF2 I don't know.
If none of you have noticed, you will soon I think. I saw a sniper unlock an achievement for killing me in midair while I was crouching, I saw a spy get the achievement for backstabbing a medic after being healed by said medic after shooting me with a revolver (while I was playing spy) and I got the achievement for backstabbing somebody and making them switch to pyro by frontstabbing... a pyro.
At least the double payload is fun. Much better than single payload.
I really don't get this new system. I went on to see players with new weapons already, to find it's now a chance game?
I mean, in the time I played this morning I somehow got the Kritzkrieg and the Boink! Atmoic Punch, yet I only had got 2 achievments.
So my question is, how do these weapons get distributed? Is it when you pick up a dropped weapon from a dead enemy? Does the weapon you get have to be the one dropped by the dead guy? Does it matter what class you play to get certain drops or is it equal for all of the weapons from all of the clases?
Is there some kind of official forum-post about this new system? I'm really confused.
I mean, in the time I played this morning I somehow got the Kritzkrieg and the Boink! Atmoic Punch, yet I only had got 2 achievments.
So my question is, how do these weapons get distributed? Is it when you pick up a dropped weapon from a dead enemy? Does the weapon you get have to be the one dropped by the dead guy? Does it matter what class you play to get certain drops or is it equal for all of the weapons from all of the clases?
Is there some kind of official forum-post about this new system? I'm really confused.
I didn't say you were a fan boy, there's no reason to get all defensive. If you read what I said, I pointed out that such comments were common of fanboys, and thus unnecessary. The 'on topic remark' you refer to said that the guy would need to buy a new computer if he wanted to play the game on PC, which didn't need you to make an inflammatory exaggeration regarding the nature of PC hardware.mikecoulter said:
As to your suggestion that console could offer more 'economic security in the long run', I would disagree. Consider the failure rate of this gen of consoles vs PCs, and that my 6 year old standard part PC can still play TF2 great, whilst my younger original Xbox cannot and is now no longer supported (I can't even get my controllers repaired, and at £25 a pop that's a nasty chunk of cash burned there by outdated hardware that broke down before my PC did).
There's little substance behind claiming PCs have higher obsolescence than consoles - sure, if you must play the next graphically-demanding game at high-def with 16x anti-aliasing and maximum graphics settings then you're going to need to upgrade, but part of the fun of PC games is that their graphics are scalable - the same 6 year old computer could run Crysis on low settings, which quite frankly beats the socks off any console.
... Damn, it looks like you've got me ranting :/ sorry about that.
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on topic, I'm still looking forward to trying out the latest stuff, and I can understand that Valve didn't want servers suddenly completely filled with spies and snipers achievement grinding, but the lack of a goal beyond mindless achievement-whoring kinda makes me feel cheated :/
Yeah except one can set up a server to be just them and leave it overnight to automatically give them items. New form of farming already. Quite simply, they solved nothing and created a wave of bitterness. I don't even consider it possible to fix this stupid random system. I played for 10 hours. I got 2 items. I have seen people who have played for twenty minutes and gotten more than I did in the time it took me. And granted they were getting duplicates of stuff they already unlocked, so it's even more broken.Crystal Cuckoo said:
Glad that I have an Xbox for once. Although recently, all the games have zero gravity and criticals. Weirdly enough, I played a game with the G-Man and some Vortigants standing around.
I stopped playing shortly after the Scout update which broke the game into a thousand tiny pieces then shat on them from the empire state building.They also had rancid meat the day before explaining the stench. In more recent light this looks interesting and probably worth the re-install which I am doing right now. The game was already broken before this update so I can't see how much more damage it can do.BillyWentBoom said:
Here.
That kinda says that the game got so bad that its almost unplayable and no matter how much updates it gets, it will stay the same broken crappy game.
The new unlock system helps prevent everyone spamming the upgraded classes, it puts an end to farming achievements. I don't have any big issues with it. Everyone will get all the unlocks in time, you just have to work for it rather than just getting some mates together and farming them all.
Yes! I think it was a smart move, as they removed the aspect of only 1 class per team of people getting achievements! It is actually well-balanced!Senrab said: