It's called ART, not BUSINESS. There's a difference.TheGreenManalishi said:Some people have zero business sense.
I totally agree, but I think in this case everything was hand crafted with actual metal, and the drive itself is a one-off.laserwulf said:It looks amazing (as any Steampunk article should), but the designer's an idiot. I could go to Wal-Mart, buy a thumbdrive, some Krylon Fusion Matte Black and Hammered Bronze, Rub & Buff, and some extra bits, and make one for under $50 that would look just as good. With a competitor selling his at $1,000, me charging $50 for mine would look like a steal.
(Before anyone calls shenanigans, at http://laserwulf.deviantart.com you can see one of my current projects, with more to be posted.)
Some ARTISTS have zero BUSINESS sense.Undercover said:It's called ART, not BUSINESS. There's a difference.TheGreenManalishi said:Some people have zero business sense.
That still doesn't make sense. Could you explain your viewpoint? Why does an artist have to care about business? I'm not trying to start a fight, I'd just like to know why you feel that way.TheGreenManalishi said:Some ARTISTS have zero BUSINESS sense.Undercover said:It's called ART, not BUSINESS. There's a difference.TheGreenManalishi said:Some people have zero business sense.
But aren't art and engineering virtually the same thing? You start with an idea, work out a way to bring that idea to life and then build it. If you're an engineer, doesn't that make you a technical artist? You still create things of beauty, just from a different point of view, and like any piece of art there will be detractors, admirers and people that just don't "get it."RAKtheUndead said:As far as I'm concerned, engineering still beats art into a cocked hat any day of the week, even though I can't create art myself.Undercover said:Man, people are so quick to just shit all over things they don't understand. It must be nice to sit in their ivory towers looking down on everyone else because they're all so uber cooler than the rest of the world. So what kind of art have THEY created? Do they even know what art IS? Obviously not from a number of the comments here. You people can't see the forest for the trees, you think in too linear of terms. Too bad for you you can't see things for what they are, not for what you THINK they should be.
I don't see the point in selling them if they cost so much. If it's being made for art, take pictures and put them on the internet so everyone can go "ooh" and "ahh" like this [http://gizmodo.com/5299574/we-like-this-ps3-specifically-because-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-steampunk], there seems little point to offering them to sell for such a high price. I reckon I could make something similar for far less money than that.Undercover said:That still doesn't make sense. Could you explain your viewpoint? Why does an artist have to care about business? I'm not trying to start a fight, I'd just like to know why you feel that way.TheGreenManalishi said:Some ARTISTS have zero BUSINESS sense.Undercover said:It's called ART, not BUSINESS. There's a difference.TheGreenManalishi said:Some people have zero business sense.
Artists create for the sake of creating, the fact that their work sells for a lot of money is because it is unique. How does that translate into bad business sense? Is it because he's not mass-producing the drives for $20 each? That would defeat the whole purpose of creating anything original, don't you think?
Thank you, you have pretty much described my motive exactly right. I liked Lazerwulf's gun, but if he was to sell it, I'm sure he would want a lot for it. When you work on these things they become your babies, and you are offended by the idea of selling it cheap. That said, I have put this drive on Ebay with a starting price of $200. I hope it sells for more than that, but would feel cheated selling it for less.Undercover said:I totally agree, but I think in this case everything was hand crafted with actual metal, and the drive itself is a one-off.laserwulf said:It looks amazing (as any Steampunk article should), but the designer's an idiot. I could go to Wal-Mart, buy a thumbdrive, some Krylon Fusion Matte Black and Hammered Bronze, Rub & Buff, and some extra bits, and make one for under $50 that would look just as good. With a competitor selling his at $1,000, me charging $50 for mine would look like a steal.
(Before anyone calls shenanigans, at http://laserwulf.deviantart.com you can see one of my current projects, with more to be posted.)
People need to understand what makes things like this expensive, and it ISN'T the materials or even the time that went into it, its the fact that this is a one of a kind, hand made piece of functional ART. Edit: Lazerwulf, if you really wanted to you could sell your creations for a few hundred dollars, not just the cost of the materials, why? Because you are creating unique, one of a kind, functional ART, not just some crappy, mass produced plastic piece of junk.
Man, people are so quick to just shit all over things they don't understand. It must be nice to sit in their ivory towers looking down on everyone else because they're all so uber cooler than the rest of the world. So what kind of art have THEY created? Do they even know what art IS? Obviously not from a number of the comments here. You people can't see the forest for the trees, you think in too linear of terms. Too bad for you you can't see things for what they are, not for what you THINK they should be.
Unless you're like laserwulf and you actually CAN do better, keep your mouth shut about things you don't understand. GOD that irritates me...