Ummm... have you SEEN Game Grumps Animated? Some fans are hard to please; others are just damn talented, much like any fanbase.trty00 said:They just have a fanbase that's seemingly impossible to please. They do one thing, then people demand they do something different, and as soon as they do that people tell them to go back to the first thing.DugMachine said:Oh I'm sure. I avoid youtube comments like that plague. As soon as they started playing more modern games I knew their 'fans' would start crying about selling out.trty00 said:If you were to go on the comments on their videos alone, people already despise them.DugMachine said:Surprised to see no Game Grump haters here, I fucking love Game Grumps but I'm sure it'll lose it's appeal in a few months.
I may look like a hypocrite for saying this (as I did just shit on a popular Youtuber), but you're absolutely right.Lonewolfm16 said:This entire thread is suffering from a lack of understanding of subjectivity. I feel that if someone sets out with the goal of entertaining people, and a large amount of people are entertained, they have suceeded. If someone attracts massive amounts of devoted fans, they are good at what they do. Mabey you don't like them but that is all about your personal tastes. Personally I really like Tobuscus, find PewDiePie passable, and don't like Ijustine... that doesn't make any of them worse or better, thats simply what I personally find entertaining.
On the Amazing Atheist, he makes good points often enough that I will stay subscribed to him, and watch most of what he puts out, though I have also relagated him to the pile of scumbag for insulting people in responses... but usually the non ad hom points are good enough for me to watch, and I agree with some of what he has to say.
He sold out, and now his channel's dead. All he has now are 3 TERRIBLE movies and a pocketful of regrets. HAPPY END.Carrots_macduff said:what do you expect from the biggest ever purveyor of pointless cat videos and fail compilations? most people dont look for intellectually stimulating entertainment on youtube and understandably so, but that doesnt mean there isnt any to be found.
oh yeah and all that about opinions and assholes too
I totally agree, I liked his earlier stuff but now most of it annoys me. Either he dumbed his stuff down or I got sick of his style of dumbed down comedy, I'm not sure which.A Homeless Pie said:I used to watch Tobuscus all the time but now he's sold his sold to youtube he's become boring. RWJ also sucks. KSI is my favorite youtuber
I understand that you may not care too much about vegetarianism, so allow me to attempt to translate it into an insult against gamers.erttheking said:snip
Roughly this.Cpu46 said:Anyone who has a picture of their overreacting face shopped over over whatever they are going to talk about for 90% of their thumbnails
Okay, "subjectivity" is not an excuse for avoiding any and all criticism. If you were to post the same thing on a thread about Michael Bay or Twilight, you would get torn apart, because the fact of the matter is that some "subjective" things are just fucking terrible. Twilight lacks depth as a movie, is poorly acted, lacks decent writing, sends a terrible message to teenage girls, and just outright sucks ass. It may be "subjective," but that doesn't stop it from being terrible. That is how criticism as a whole works. Period.Lonewolfm16 said:This entire thread is suffering from a lack of understanding of subjectivity. I feel that if someone sets out with the goal of entertaining people, and a large amount of people are entertained, they have suceeded. If someone attracts massive amounts of devoted fans, they are good at what they do. Mabey you don't like them but that is all about your personal tastes. Personally I really like Tobuscus, find PewDiePie passable, and don't like Ijustine... that doesn't make any of them worse or better, thats simply what I personally find entertaining.
On the Amazing Atheist, he makes good points often enough that I will stay subscribed to him, and watch most of what he puts out, though I have also relagated him to the pile of scumbag for insulting people in responses... but usually the non ad hom points are good enough for me to watch, and I agree with some of what he has to say.
She strikes me as being a lot smarter than she looks, and that the bimbo thing is just her comedy shtick. She normally only talks and jokes about bimbo stuff, and even then, she's surprisingly erudite about the subject.squidface said:I dunno about ones I don't like... Jenna Marbles was mentioned, her videos are ... just ... yeah. It's like "hey guys look at me i'm a pretty girl with opinions" kind of thing. And it's like she's trying to lecture us about her opinions, not really... share them.
One youtuber I DO like is the guy who makes the "how to" videos. C:
Xdeser2 said:Meh, I Guess I'll ramble off the same list I always do:
Sxephil, RayWilliamJohnson, the Amazing Atheist, Pewdiepie, Tobuscus, Ijustine, KassemG and the like
IMO, their all either bandwagoning, Intolerant of others, Fakes, or just using stupid humor to shill, pander and get views. Usually some combination of all Four. However, Really to each their own, who am I to say that someones choice of channel is wrong when its just Opinion anyway?
Shout out to some GOOD channels though (not that some really need the help at all, just want to add some positivity): Quill18, OMFGCata, Damo2986, SapphirePhoenix08, and ElderGeekdotcom
Agreed. I don't particularly care if someone gets a lot of views for acting over-the-top annoying, but for his soapbox persona that guy's just offensive. .boots said:The Amazing Atheist, though that one's been kind of obvious ever since Redditgate.
At least she looks better then PewDiePie, I mean her channel is softcore porn.Dark wolverine said:While this is the case with all media, it does sting more now that it's happening in a free, uncontrolled environment. Bloody mankind. If a "The day the Earth stood still" scenario happened tomorrow then we'd inexorably be wiped out.
However, there is one person who's more of a waste of digital air than anyone else I've come across - and its Hannah Minx