The WoW Killer has finally arrived
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I believe LoL has more players than WoW, but as it's neither an MMO nor an RPG (or at least not an RPG in the same way WoW is an RPG) they don't really compete at all.Dr. Cakey said:
I think it's significantly more likely that without WoW people would've just copy-pasted whatever the next most successful MMO was.Orks da best said:
This.aguspal said:
Dear lord people, it's a video game that makes a lot of people happy.
If you don't like it, don't play it, but no need to wish for its demise.
It's a video game.
How is it WoW's fault that other developers chose to be lazy and continue on using the same mechanics as Everquest?Jaeke said:While I appreciate it for the memories, it did take up almost 5 1/2 years of my life (and I'm sure there are many of thousands who can say this same exact thing.)aguspal said:
And it kind of ruined MMO's too
It didn't ruin MMO's, lazy developer's did.
My understanding of the cross realm zones is that, should a zone be fairly empty, they'll 'share' that zone with other servers, so that you'll see other players and can team up if you'd like. You're not taken away from your server, or cut off from guild or friends, just opened up to some more players.
I am however surprised that they're so against server merges, but perhaps they foresaw many people returning to the game now the new expansion has landed, and therefore didn't wish to make any moves like that until they could gauge the numbers.
I should however say, that despite a few bugs and glitches, from being in game and actually talking to real players, the feeling is overwhelmingly positive.
Surely we should hold the opinions of players as more worthwhile than random ranty haters jumping on a passing bandwagon? (Not the OP, just the general level of WOW hate).
After all, this expansion was met with 'lolz kung fu panda, made for kids, gonna fail so hard, death of WOW'
Cataclysm was met with 'lolz gonna fail so hard', a similar tone was voiced with Wrath and the Burning Crusade. While I realise it's not growing any more, it's still doing just fine.
There's a lot of quality stuff being created by Blizzard's people for this game, but the trouble is (I dont know current numbers, but...) if you have 10 million players, and 1% don't like a feature, that's 100,000 players, many of whom will be voicing their opinions in game, and by forums and message boards and social media. It's tough to not see huge problems then, even tho, it's only 1%.
Lastly there's the 'lol it's all too easy' crowd, who seemed to think that Blizzard spending all their money on creating end game content that only a tiny fraction of their player base would ever see is a good move. All Blizzard have done is offer easier modes, so the content can be enjoyed by more people. If you want it epic hard, there's those options open to you, and you'll earn rewards consummate with your skill and effort.
I am however surprised that they're so against server merges, but perhaps they foresaw many people returning to the game now the new expansion has landed, and therefore didn't wish to make any moves like that until they could gauge the numbers.
I should however say, that despite a few bugs and glitches, from being in game and actually talking to real players, the feeling is overwhelmingly positive.
Surely we should hold the opinions of players as more worthwhile than random ranty haters jumping on a passing bandwagon? (Not the OP, just the general level of WOW hate).
After all, this expansion was met with 'lolz kung fu panda, made for kids, gonna fail so hard, death of WOW'
Cataclysm was met with 'lolz gonna fail so hard', a similar tone was voiced with Wrath and the Burning Crusade. While I realise it's not growing any more, it's still doing just fine.
There's a lot of quality stuff being created by Blizzard's people for this game, but the trouble is (I dont know current numbers, but...) if you have 10 million players, and 1% don't like a feature, that's 100,000 players, many of whom will be voicing their opinions in game, and by forums and message boards and social media. It's tough to not see huge problems then, even tho, it's only 1%.
Lastly there's the 'lol it's all too easy' crowd, who seemed to think that Blizzard spending all their money on creating end game content that only a tiny fraction of their player base would ever see is a good move. All Blizzard have done is offer easier modes, so the content can be enjoyed by more people. If you want it epic hard, there's those options open to you, and you'll earn rewards consummate with your skill and effort.
League of Legends has more registered users, but WoW has more active players.Dr. Cakey said:
A lot of people just make LoL accounts and never play.
How can you kill that which has no life?
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Back to the point - I don't care anymore. It had drained my interest in MMOs of any sort to zero.
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Back to the point - I don't care anymore. It had drained my interest in MMOs of any sort to zero.
Why is this bad? I know the big problem with leveling and having no one in the leveling zone that you're in because you are in an old realm with a tonne of level capped players. This seems like a great idea to fix that. As for the algorithm being faulty, progress always is. They will update it and work on it until its perfect.phreakdb said:
Damn, that does sound terrible. I used to love my old server, Bladefist, for being pretty small but really tight in terms of the on-server community. We had our own little groups, our own little dramas and our own battle between the Horde and the Alliance. Friendships were made, guilds were founded, rivalries got started, you name it. It was still going pretty okay in the early days of WotLK; people actually cared about winning Wintergrasp battles.
But the more cross-realm stuff came along, the more that community feel started to fade away. And that's one of the main reasons why I kept playing WoW as long as I did. But sadly the game's Massively Multiplayer started feeling very cold and impersonal.
A damn shame it is and this CRZ crap is just making it worse.
Get to level 20+ in FLYFF or 60+ in ROSE Online or almost any other F2P Korean MMO. Then we'll talk about grinding.
Especially the recent expansions made WoW nearly grind-free if you choose to play it that way. Hell when I was still a hardcore raider back in TBC days I only had to grind for high-end raiding flasks and the likes. It got even less in WotLK and Cata especially thanks to the incredibly diversified leveling content compared to other MMO's.
But the more cross-realm stuff came along, the more that community feel started to fade away. And that's one of the main reasons why I kept playing WoW as long as I did. But sadly the game's Massively Multiplayer started feeling very cold and impersonal.
A damn shame it is and this CRZ crap is just making it worse.
No. No it does not.SecretNegative said:
Get to level 20+ in FLYFF or 60+ in ROSE Online or almost any other F2P Korean MMO. Then we'll talk about grinding.
Especially the recent expansions made WoW nearly grind-free if you choose to play it that way. Hell when I was still a hardcore raider back in TBC days I only had to grind for high-end raiding flasks and the likes. It got even less in WotLK and Cata especially thanks to the incredibly diversified leveling content compared to other MMO's.
But we've had our very own WoW Killer [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view/WoW+Killer] on The Escapist for a while now!
[sub]I have no view on the actual thing you're on about mind, I just remembered that there was a user called that.[/sub]
[sub]I have no view on the actual thing you're on about mind, I just remembered that there was a user called that.[/sub]
There is definitely truth behind the thread title and the ending of the post. The only game able to kill WoW is WoW itself. So many 'wow killers' have come and gone in the past and none of them succeeded. So only WoW can kill itself. And it's doing a decent job at it already from what I'm seeing and hearing. Making one bad decision after another probably in the hopes to draw in more players or keep players that are leaving. Yet it seems to have the opposite effect.
The only thing that will kill WoW is WoW itself. After the 10 000 expansions and montlhy subscribtions, nobody will play this.
I fail to see how CRZ has much in relation with being corpse camped and node farming. Its the launch of a new expo which everybody racing to the next level cap and every resource and quest mob being in extremely high demand so if your on a PvP realm then expect a ton of murders. I guess for people playing on PvP servers that are 90% faction A and 10% faction B or even worse servers that are just empty, I'm guessing they are upset that they can't farm an empty server or have complete faction dominance.
Cross Realm Zones kill WoW. Ha. No. It's not gonna do anything, because you'll still be able to chat with anyone in your guild and party. 90% of the time, I really could care less about what goes on in /1.
Also, "WoW Killer" seems to be interchangable with "Doomed MMO", doesn't it? Every single game that's been dubbed "WoW killer" has gone free to play or shut down.
The only time people really grind is to exalt out reputations. Granted, there's leveling, but it doesn't feel like an up-hill grind off most of the time.
Also, "WoW Killer" seems to be interchangable with "Doomed MMO", doesn't it? Every single game that's been dubbed "WoW killer" has gone free to play or shut down.
Wrong. Go play FLYFF (after level 20 or so on gpotato's servers) or another Korean MMO for awhile, then we'll talk abut "a lot of grinding".SecretNegative said:
The only time people really grind is to exalt out reputations. Granted, there's leveling, but it doesn't feel like an up-hill grind off most of the time.
I'm not entirely sure... i would assume it's just to deal with the sheer number of people accessing the new mists servers. But from what i have heard Blizzard are now able to apply patches whilst servers are live. As the mists opening event had no down time from what people at work were saying, it went live at 23:53 or something like that.crono738 said: