The WoW Killer has finally arrived

[excalipoor]

But...I liked having a whole zone to myself! Haven't had time to play Mists yet though, so no idea how this affects me.

Oh, and WoW isn't any grindier than, say, Guild Wars 2. Just so you know. It's okay to not like things...but don't make up bullshit reasons why. You don't need to justify yourself, really! Nobody's going to put a gun to your head and force you to play.

If anything is going to die, it's the hype around GW2. It's like the Skyrim of MMOs. In this parable, WoW would be the Halo (or maybe CoD): apparently hated and berated by all of internet, yet somehow still maintains a massive playerbase. But of course, that's just because people are mindless sheep. It's the only reasonable explanation! Right?

 

[Syzygy23]

Why do people want to kill WOW?

Good god, just leave the freaking game alone! Do you know theres people that actually might like the game right?

People want to see WoW killed in the same sense that children want to hear fairy tales. The fairy tales aren't there to prove dragons and evil wizards exist, but to prove they can be killed.

 

[EvilMaggot]

I sort of want WoW to die, mostly because it's an empty shell of a RPG filled to the brim with anti-consumer profiteering.

Guild

I don't like losing resource nodes at all, I couldn't care less if it was someone phased in or not. It's not ME, I hate them regardless!

so then dont play a mmo , you're never gonna get every node you go for ... that's a fact lol

Guild Wars 2 has fixed this nicely ^^

 

[Lunar Templar]

Why do people want to kill WOW?

Good god, just leave the freaking game alone! Do you know theres people that actually might like the game right?

simple, WoW is holding things back.

WoW is holding back MMO's the same way Team Fortress 2 is holding back First Person Shooters. Only in a minute way that people exaggerate to a hilarious degree.

WoW clearly is a great game. If it wasn't, it wouldn't have murdered the kings of the genre before it was around (Everquest, SWG, AO) and then murdered every single competition it's had since.

Blizzard are smart developers. They know how to keep people playing. They aren't holding the genre back. That's a bullshit rationalization that comes from gamers who have no idea what numbers mean.

right ... WoW is totally on the bleeding edge of ... anything ... WoW is a skinner box, end of story, its not about it being good (pro tip: it's crap), it's about how addictive it is.

as i said. there is absolutely NOTHING in WoW, i can not find some one else doing better.

also, if Blizzard was 'smart' they wouldn't have made D3 into the mess it is.

 

[00slash00]

people have been saying wow is over for years now. they arent as powerful as they used to be but they are still the dominant mmo. jesse cox explained it like this. most people who play wow, dont like the game anymore. they are bored and want something new. thats why so many wow players try every big new mmo that comes out. they want something new because wow has been doing the same thing for so long that, as good as it is, it just feels stale. the problem is that no new mmo can compete with wow because wow has been doing this for 8 years, meaning it has the experience and endgame content that a new mmo just wont have. and people cant justify leaving wow for good because all their friends are on wow and the endgame content of wow still just blows away the endgame content of other mmos

i dont play wow so i cant comment about whether this is all true or not, this is just what i heard from omfgcata

 

[ChildishLegacy]

You think cross realm zones are causing the huge amount of people in questing areas?

Have you never played another WoW expansion on release day? It was the exact same on your own damn server. Cross realm zones will make questing a better experience for leveling when the majority of players are playing endgame content, because the questing areas wont be empty.

 

[Loop Stricken]

But...I liked having a whole zone to myself! Haven't had time to play Mists yet though, so no idea how this affects me.

Pandaria is, or at least should be, excluded from the crossrealm malarkey.

 

[maxben]

Why do people want to kill WOW?

Good god, just leave the freaking game alone! Do you know theres people that actually might like the game right?

simple, WoW is holding things back.

WoW is holding back MMO's the same way Team Fortress 2 is holding back First Person Shooters. Only in a minute way that people exaggerate to a hilarious degree.

WoW clearly is a great game. If it wasn't, it wouldn't have murdered the kings of the genre before it was around (Everquest, SWG, AO) and then murdered every single competition it's had since.

Blizzard are smart developers. They know how to keep people playing. They aren't holding the genre back. That's a bullshit rationalization that comes from gamers who have no idea what numbers mean.

right ... WoW is totally on the bleeding edge of ... anything ... WoW is a skinner box, end of story, its not about it being good (pro tip: it's crap), it's about how addictive it is.

as i said. there is absolutely NOTHING in WoW, i can not find some one else doing better.

also, if Blizzard was 'smart' they wouldn't have made D3 into the mess it is.

ooooh, you used the word "skinner box" and you think you made a point. ALL video games are skinner boxes. Random drops of item in TF2, ANY RPG (remember how pokemon would level up but the stat gains were random?), random loot based on exploration (Fallout 3), fluky achievements, etc etc. At the end of the day, games try to make you play longer using conditioning mechanics because they aren't real, there can never be real tangible gains. All that matters is, do you like the box? Do the graphics, story, and characters appeal to you? Ifyes, thats the box for you. If not, you look for a different box.

 

[excalipoor]

But...I liked having a whole zone to myself! Haven't had time to play Mists yet though, so no idea how this affects me.

Pandaria is, or at least should be, excluded from the crossrealm malarkey.

I was thinking of the lowbie zones. First thing I'll do is level a Pandaren Monk anyhow, as I'm not gonna set foot on Pandaria until at least a week or two from the launch. I was in Mount Hyjal during the midnight launch of Cata, and I sure as hell am not going through that again... It's the kind of situation where GW2 style grouping would be a godsend.

 

[Loop Stricken]

But...I liked having a whole zone to myself! Haven't had time to play Mists yet though, so no idea how this affects me.

Pandaria is, or at least should be, excluded from the crossrealm malarkey.

I was thinking of the lowbie zones. First thing I'll do is level a Pandaren Monk anyhow, as I'm not gonna set foot on Pandaria until at least a week or two from the launch. I was in Mount Hyjal during the midnight launch of Cata, and I sure as hell am not going through that again... It's the kind of situation where GW2 style grouping would be a godsend.

Incidentally, for the 'named' quest mobs, this seems to be in full-force now. None of this waiting around to tag your own version of the mob - Even if it's attacking somepony else, you can give it a few twats to the head and get kill credit.

 

[ElPatron]

Why do people want to kill WOW?

Why do people want a "Steam-killer"? Why do people want a "cod-killer"? Why do people want a iPhone-killer?

Everyone wants a share of the market.

 

[Muspelheim]

Why do people want to kill WOW?

Good god, just leave the freaking game alone! Do you know theres people that actually might like the game right?

simple, WoW is holding things back.

WoW is holding back MMO's the same way Team Fortress 2 is holding back First Person Shooters. Only in a minute way that people exaggerate to a hilarious degree.

WoW clearly is a great game. If it wasn't, it wouldn't have murdered the kings of the genre before it was around (Everquest, SWG, AO) and then murdered every single competition it's had since.

Blizzard are smart developers. They know how to keep people playing. They aren't holding the genre back. That's a bullshit rationalization that comes from gamers who have no idea what numbers mean.

right ... WoW is totally on the bleeding edge of ... anything ... WoW is a skinner box, end of story, its not about it being good (pro tip: it's crap), it's about how addictive it is.

as i said. there is absolutely NOTHING in WoW, i can not find some one else doing better.

also, if Blizzard was 'smart' they wouldn't have made D3 into the mess it is.

Holy doley, will ya look at all dem opinions!

 

[Lunar Templar]

ooooh, you used the word "skinner box" and you think you made a point. ALL video games are skinner boxes. Random drops of item in TF2, ANY RPG (remember how pokemon would level up but the stat gains were random?), random loot based on exploration (Fallout 3), fluky achievements, etc etc. At the end of the day, games try to make you play longer using conditioning mechanics because they aren't real, there can never be real tangible gains. All that matters is, do you like the box? Do the graphics, story, and characters appeal to you? Ifyes, thats the box for you. If not, you look for a different box.

2 things

1) point on poor choice of words, though i stand by WoW having nothing worth while to offer compared to other MMOs

2)as you might have guess, i have found a 'box' i like. so Blizzard is just another over hyped dev getting a free pass from its fanboys, be it the whiny ones are the ones that defend everything they do.

Holy doley, will ya look at all dem opinions!

and i have more of them to chances are, they aren't going to make me any friends in Blizzard's (or Bethesda, or Bioware or a few others I'm forgetting off hand) camp.

 

[rbstewart7263]

Why do people want to kill WOW?

Good god, just leave the freaking game alone! Do you know theres people that actually might like the game right?

Yeah but those people dont deserve happiness or the cash in there wallets doncha know? They deserve.....WOW CANCER!!!

 

[GamingAwesome1]

Why do people want to kill WOW?

Good god, just leave the freaking game alone! Do you know theres people that actually might like the game right?

People want WoW dead because due to the massive popularity of the game (note: popularity, not quality, it is popularity that defines industry benchmarks, not quality), it set a benchmark for the MMO industry to try and emulate that style of game in order to actually sell copies and this kind of "WoW Cloning" despite being repeatedly proven to not fucking work in most cases, was continually tried to the degree where MMO's have grown incredibly stale and boring. The lion's share of the market it continues to hold is holding back the genre's progression.

It follows a similar line of logic that people want an actually quality console shooter to be a "CoD-killer" so that Call of Duty will stop setting the benchmark for the industry and so they'll start producing more worthwhile games rather than just shitting out generic modern military games, so to it that people want companies to stop shitting out generic hot-key MMO's.

 

[Savryc]

Ahh WoW. I was against it from the start because fuck subscription fees for something I've already bought. Shame really, I wanna know what happens after Frozen Throne but I'm not playing it and just reading what happens isn't the same as experiencing it. Ahh well, guess I'll never know.

More power to those that like it though, it's still just a game after all, have fun.

 

[courtjester13]

I don't like losing resource nodes at all, I couldn't care less if it was someone phased in or not. It's not ME, I hate them regardless!

so then dont play a mmo , you're never gonna get every node you go for ... that's a fact lol

You can't tell me that it doesn't piss you off when you run to a node only to have a mob start attacking you, and then some prick paladin with his extra mountspeed swoops in, nicks it and runs off, the pink bastards!

Whoa , whoa .... You didn't say anything about a pally before ... I hate them on principle