Therapist Repeats "Gaming is Like Snorting Cocaine" Claim
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Of course the kids will react if someone took the controller out of their hands! You know, in the same way everyone reacts when interrupted... And this was supposed to prove his point?
Yeah I'm sorry but as a kid, if a parent was taking the controller out of my hand, I knew what was next, they were going to hit the power switch and screw up my save, yeah there's a bad reaction about to happen.
And since when is snatching ok? didn't this douche's kindergarten teacher teach him not to snatch stuff out of peoples hands?
I'd react poorly if I was using/doing anything and you interrupted me, games, reading, girlfriend, eating, listening, fapping (unless you're the girlfriend), remoting, working, etc.
And since when is snatching ok? didn't this douche's kindergarten teacher teach him not to snatch stuff out of peoples hands?
I'd react poorly if I was using/doing anything and you interrupted me, games, reading, girlfriend, eating, listening, fapping (unless you're the girlfriend), remoting, working, etc.
I'm pretty sure when somebody is shot, it wasn't the game that directly killed them. Rather, it was a person shooting another person. This would be like saying Cocaine kills people because a drug dealer shot somebody for not paying up money. It isn't the game or the coke killing someone, it's the actions of other people and outside influences.Captain Placeholder said:
Cocaine on it's own can kill somebody. I don't see any games that can do similar.
Do we really need a new article every time some uninformed therapist suggests video games lead to violence or addiction?
holy shit lmao! I really like that last line
In any case, according to this guy i am a certified gaming junkie! Damn how did i EVER get through that 2 month long summer vacation out to the national parks on the west coast (of america) without a regular fix of the good stuff! You'd think that i had spent the entire time curled up in a ball shaking uncontrollably! Unless you had seen me... In which case i may never have touched the stuff my entire life for all you know!
Oh btw... that "endorphin high" that disrupts behavior and learning? You know, the one that comes from gaming instead of sleeping? Yeah, it's called lack of sleep. Caused by... not getting 8 hours of sleep each night. It doesn't matter WHY you didn't get them, only THAT you didn't get them. ( mean the disrupted behavior and learning, not necessarily the high)
Yeah i guess that could get the same effect... So could taking a cheese steak away from me right as i'm about to take a bite. You know i think you could do the same thing if you sat down on the couch next to me and started channel surfing while i'm watching my favorite show as well.Andy Chalk said:Therapist Repeats "Gaming is Like Snorting Cocaine" Claim
To make his point, he suggested that parents listening to the program "go upstairs to your kid's bedroom and try and take the game station controller out of their hands." They will react "in the same way as an alcoholic would if you tried to take their booze. It's scary," he said. As for the claims about sleep disruption that started the whole mess, he said staying up late to play videogames causes an "endorphin high in [kids'] brains," leading to a "chemical imbalance" that disrupts behavior and learning.
In any case, according to this guy i am a certified gaming junkie! Damn how did i EVER get through that 2 month long summer vacation out to the national parks on the west coast (of america) without a regular fix of the good stuff! You'd think that i had spent the entire time curled up in a ball shaking uncontrollably! Unless you had seen me... In which case i may never have touched the stuff my entire life for all you know!
Oh btw... that "endorphin high" that disrupts behavior and learning? You know, the one that comes from gaming instead of sleeping? Yeah, it's called lack of sleep. Caused by... not getting 8 hours of sleep each night. It doesn't matter WHY you didn't get them, only THAT you didn't get them. ( mean the disrupted behavior and learning, not necessarily the high)
Well, these are Catholics we're talking about.awesomeClaw said:
But relating to the article, yeah, the guy's a fuckwit. The facts do not back up what he's saying. Except the bit about the endorphin high causing people to have difficulty sleeping. That actually can happen. I suppose technically so can the addiction, but people can show addictive behavior over just about anything.
Unfortunately there is also that woman who shook her baby to death because his crying was interrupting her farmville. Or maybe i'm only remembering the spin that was put on the story, in any case any such stories seem far more common than they actually are because they get so much attention. And when crack kills it's just old news so most of it gets ignored.Captain Placeholder said:
*edit* my bad looks like i managed to write my bit inside the quotation, somehow.
My reaction will be the same if anything is snatched out of my hands be that an xbox controller, book, sandwich or a cup of tea
and that will be a "What the Fuck?"
and that will be a "What the Fuck?"
That's a fallacy if I ever saw one...
So, okay, let's accept for a fact that videogames do produce the same high in the brain as cocaine does (I still don't know this guy is not making that up). So videogames are exactly like cocaine, and therefore bad, right?
Not so; cocaine is bad not because of the high it gives, but because of the chemical side effects it causes on the body. Those side effects are obviously not present in the case of videogames. So the comparison is stupid, to put it gently.
In fact, if we also want to play at this logic-bending game, we could say the comparison is even flattering to videogames: if they give a cocaine high without the cocaine side effects, that is all for the better, right?
See? Using distorted logic to prove our own point is easy and fun!
So, okay, let's accept for a fact that videogames do produce the same high in the brain as cocaine does (I still don't know this guy is not making that up). So videogames are exactly like cocaine, and therefore bad, right?
Not so; cocaine is bad not because of the high it gives, but because of the chemical side effects it causes on the body. Those side effects are obviously not present in the case of videogames. So the comparison is stupid, to put it gently.
In fact, if we also want to play at this logic-bending game, we could say the comparison is even flattering to videogames: if they give a cocaine high without the cocaine side effects, that is all for the better, right?
See? Using distorted logic to prove our own point is easy and fun!
How many points did he raise? Four? In that case: No, no, no and no.
And all of my responses can actually be backed by unbiased scientific data.
And all of my responses can actually be backed by unbiased scientific data.
As everyone has been saying, if I am doing something and I am interrupted, I won't be happy with you, it doesn't necessarily have to be a game. It could be a TV programme I am watching, or if I am on the phone and someone comes up to me and starts randomly talking to me. I haven't played a videogame in ages and I didn't suffer any kind of withdrawal, delirium tremins or anything like that, which usually accompanies going "cold turkey" with a lot of addictive substances, so equating games with alcoholism or drug addiction is ludicrous. It is a form of entertainment, rather like reading a book, or watching television. Nothing more, nothing less in my eyes.
Ya, but they will also react if you take there favorite book, favorite candy bar, or favorite anything out of their hands. If my parents came up to my as a kid and took my sketchbook away from me-- i'd react too. I'd react because I'm a kid and that's my toy. It's one of the most important things in my life. Someone take away that guy's house or car or job and see if he reacts badly.Andy Chalk said:
And for your information, "Mr. Expert", i use games to WAKE myself up. And i have a sleep disorder, so it's actually normal for me to get tired easily.
It's true that some kids just like how you say. SOME. But not everyone gets addicted to alcohol and not everyone gets addicted to games.
