These Are Your New Pokemon Black & White Starters

TheGameXXVII

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John Funk said:
For all of you who still think the sky is falling, here's what they might look like if they were all Bidoof:

now these are some starter pokemon i would like to see.
 

lord canti

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John Funk said:
For all of you who still think the sky is falling, here's what they might look like if they were all Bidoof:

I here by name this unstoppable team the bidoof execution squad.
 

Robby Foxfur

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a red panda a penguin and a donkey WTF are they gonna come up with next, isn't like 400 and some odd number of these enough? i mean holy crap are they really gonna shoot for 1000?
 

sudokucrazedman

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I like the idea of a fire Tanuki, but I think the water pig/rabbit is kind of stupid. I'm perfectly happy with waiting for them to get their reveal, but now I want a fire tanuki.
 

AdamRBi

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Don said:
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Problem with that is, unlike the pattern held up by Water/Fire/Grass, Psychic type moves can't hurt Darks at all. Nothing, nada, Zero damage done. And by recent standards (where you gain a second type that is an advantage over your rival/become weak against the type you're powerful against) the psychic type would be at a greater disadvantage. Much more then Bulbasaur is to Charmander.

This is the same issue with Dark/Psychic/Ghost, as Ghosts aren't weak against psychic. The triangle they have now is simple to understand and simple to use especially for children playing Pokemon so they wouldn't change it.

Now those as secondary types to the starters as they reach their 3rd evolution? That'd be pretty cool.
In principal I agree with you, but with Water/Steel along with Ground/Grass coming into play, I would say that the starter triangle principle has already been broken and thus a new broken triangle wouldn't be amiss. Psychic not hurting Dark shouldn't matter as it still plays to the "being weak to" principle, just slightly more accentuated. Your example of a differing triangle doesn't however and has no place.

Simplicity shouldn't factor either, this is the fifth generation of these creatures and it would be a safe bet that anyone who will be interested is interested already and with Pokemon being heavily populated by competitive play I think an increase in depth/complexity (not that changing starters really is) wouldn't really alienate anyone.

The real reason there won't be a change is laziness and reluctance. I dont blame Game Freak, I'm just disappointed. Even though those images aren't real, you can still imagine them being similar to what has been conceived - except maybe the water pig being the grass type.
It wouldn't alienate people to up the complexity, in fact I'm pretty sure they've been doing that in the background of the newer Pokemon titles. Though as hard as it is to believe there are kids who have never played Pokemon before or may have only heard about it from the anime/TCG/merch/parade balloon (food?).

That's why the external coat of the Pokemon games have remained unchanged. Professors are still trees, there are still 8 gyms, it's always the Elite 4, there's always the bad guys trying to take over everything, and the starters are always Fire/Grass/Water. All the complexity, the element they update and the driving force behind the games popularity, is in the background. Stuff like EVs, type advantages, natures, breeding, etc, etc.

I'm all for change, anything to make the game more fun. Some things however are fine just as they are and make it easy for newcomers to join. And come on, do you really want to be the old man shouting at kids, with their Pokemon Sepia and Musk Versions, shouting "I remember back in the day we didn't have your fancy Dark starter Pokemon. It was always Fire, Grass, and Water," with the kids responding, "pff, whateva old man," in which they fly off in their Pikachu Jetpacks because somehow the anime is still going and Pikachu matters after 9 Generations of Pokemon?

See my point? If it's not broke and their's more pressing matters to fix, don't fix it. I'd be more concerned about them actually designing less bizarre and more memorable Pokemon then spending it changing a staple of the Pokemon story. Besides, half the time that's the only way to get a fire type early on in the game.
 

Ben Legend

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Well the bottoms left pokemon is a bit of a mystery. Its tail could be a fin (water type) a leaf (grass type) or just a tail. :p (fire type)
 

Space Jawa

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interspark said:
WOW! i love them! nintendo could learn alot from this guy! some of them are a biiiiiit ripped off but oh well. y'know im not too disapointed with these to be honest, i mean, yeah they look cheesy and naff right now but 1. we wont see the real thing untill next sunday and 2. i remember feeling the exact same way about piplup chimchar and turtwig and they came out fine!
Quite the contrary - I think Nintendo could learn little, if anything, from that guy, specifically because so many of them are ripped off, as well as too many of them being too similar to other pokemon within even that same list. Not just real pokemon from previous generations.

Personally, I'm getting the feeling that guy didn't stretch his creative muscles all that much.
 

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Collin Henderson said:
Considering this is the new generation, I wouldn't put it past them to possibly move away from the traditional fire/water/grass starters. I would love to see some kind of Ghost/Dark/Psychic choice or something like that. And seeing that these silhouettes aren't 100% clear on what type they are, who knows.
Yeah, they should do something new. These look like something I've seen before, but who knows when they get coloured?
 

The Infinite

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._. Right, if they look anything like the fan mock up, I'm going to break my water starter cycle and go with grass, it's the only one that looks sort of okay-ish... The Bunny-Pig hybrid. barlgh. That is all.
 

I am Spy

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I have the real starters guys! They look pretty cool to be honest.



*EDIT* Dammit. Ninja'd to the max by Funk.
 

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Hurr Durr Derp said:
Dyp100 said:
Apparently my friend said coloured screens have been posted, but IDK if he is BSing or not.
Found it. Dunno if it's real or fake, but...

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq84/DurrHurr/pokemon.jpg

KILL IT WITH FIRE. D:
I'm not sure it they are cute or absolutely terrifying.

But wasn't the fire one supposed to be a dog or something like that?
 

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Space Jawa said:
Sworm said:
I mean seriously... a water-pig, a fire-koala-like-thing and a grass-... what the hell is that thing anyway?
Baby Godzilla lizard thing?
I think that looks rather good. Granted, it's quite ugly but it has potential to turn into a grass dragon, scaly piece of...pokemon. Better than a blue pig atleast. These are fake though, they couldn't have fallen that low. The look of the starters contributes around 50% of the enjoyment value to the game, they couldn't fuck these up that bad.
 

John Funk

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Turtwig doesn't look any more or less stupid than Bulbasaur, honestly. And Torterra was awesome.
 

teutonicman

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It looks like a water donkey, a completely non threatening tree raptor, a fire-bear-beaver cross. Well shit, when did pokemon become so gay?
 

SextusMaximus

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Dyp100 said:
Apparently my friend said coloured screens have been posted, but IDK if he is BSing or not.

Either way, they look pretty ugly, I doubt anything will beat the first 3 generation of starts, I mean, they gave us MUDKIPS, how can you beat that!?
Mudkips AND Torchics (which evolve into those bad-arse Fighter-Fire pokemon :D)
 

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Dyp100 said:
Hurr Durr Derp said:
Dyp100 said:
Apparently my friend said coloured screens have been posted, but IDK if he is BSing or not.
Found it. Dunno if it's real or fake, but...

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq84/DurrHurr/pokemon.jpg

KILL IT WITH FIRE. D:
...Oh good God, I don't even think fire will fix this problem.

...Nuke it from space. |:<
BLACK HOLE! THROW THEM INTO A BLACK HOLE!

the pokemon universe i grew up in is dead, no more kick ass looking pokemon?