Sorry. I figured as such, that was mostly for me, as I have been caught out by the whole 'Canadian thing is seems American enough to confuse' before (Corner Gas).
They are trying to cancel Dave Chappell
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Eh? I can't recommend one way or the other, it was just a show I watched every now and again years ago. It's more of your traditional sitcom, which will probably be a step down compared to Letterkenny's general wittiness/verbosity.
Yeah, traditional sitcoms are markedly less Shakespearean.
Like I said, I barely remember the show outside of "thought it was American, turns out to be Canadian" and I don't want to discourage you from it on that alone. I imagine there are clips up on Youtube to peruse through.
Ok yeah, you got me there in that it is different. My point was that there was overlap (as in that they are the same) between criticism and calling for something's removal, but honestly...I did not want to have this conversation. I just wanted to talk about Chappelle, and then ended up here in the weeds arguing about shit I neither know or care about. I'm sorry for my initial comment that started this whole tangent (well...atleast the snooty opener I had, as I still stand by the rest) as I just can't bring myself to care about this 'cancel culture' shit. It all feels like everyone tilting at windmills, because who has actually been cancelled that has still remained cancelled? Only person I can actually think of is Weinstein. Being 'cancelled' doesn't seem to actually be a thing to me. As for that last bit, see my earlier comment. If all it takes for someone to be horrible is them thinking someone else has taken their toys, then there were both always horrible and probably did not deserve the toys in the first place.
You are trying to pull this to a degree to make it somehow okay for you to still enjoy the platform, but also not like the platform. You don't want to support Netflix because they put on a comedy show you don't like, however you also don't want to give up Netflix because there is a wide array of entertainment available that you still want to be able to enjoy.
So basically you are unwilling to commit to either actually pulling your money from Netflix, while at the same time trying desperately to justify why this one program on the site shouldn't be there. These people want the show removed to make them personally more comfortable because they can't bring themselves to actually cancel their Netflix account.
And Netflix knows this. You are going to keep paying them so why should they give a fuck what you say or think? You can complain and demand all you want, but until you pull your money from them it is meaningless crying.
I was explaining the simple logistics as to how boycotting a show on Netflix works. It's not like a traditional cable show or like a YouTube thing where "just don't watch that specific show" has an actual effect. Dunno how or why you're reading more into that
Are you actually saying that people boycotting netflix until they remove the special is okay or is boycotting itself cancel culture?
Depends on the reason for the boycott.
Is pulling all support from Blizzard for bad business practices "cancelling" Blizzard.
The answer is no. Because in this example the boycott is not trying to remove anything specifically, it's just tryng to encourage a correction of how Blizzard opperates.
However if you are boycotting Blizzard because you want the World of Warcraft shutdown because it harbors racist stereotypes by featuring Orcs, then in this case yes the boycott is "cancelling".
The difference here is that in one boycott you are asking for a change, a modification to what exists into something better. Whereas the other example wants the offending thing removed, deleted, gone forever based off personal preference.
I see this more as an employee (contractor in this case) being offensive to patrons of Netflix. This delineation between products and what you can do is somewhat accurate but doesn't fit this situation.
Also, I'm not into CriticalGaming's stance of 'workers can treat customers however they want'
I am interested in asking if you think the people who demanded others not watch Last Jedi and then used the 'proof' that it did poorly at the box office to try and get Kathleen fired stands. Because that's how a lot boycotts you favour end up
Have you ever heard of fires?
EDIT: Or power outages. Or maintenance. Or breakdowns.
Did you at all in your life think that stairs in general were unnecessary for able body people if there are lifts?
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The failure to cancel some-one permanently is mostly due to the fact that people find ways to pivot to other things. It doesn't mean they were basically locked out from their previous ways to an extent.
Just because Johnny Depp is managing to work the indie circuit doesn't mean his career as a Hollywood main actor is revived and back.
The other thing with people being cancelled is it's the general public who suffers more but you rarely hear about them because they're not big celebrities. I mean Liana K has said before that she's had companies approach her and say they'd like her to work with them but only if it's not public or credited because they don't want to deal with the angry mobs still pissed off at her for being critical of Anita Sarkeesian.
Actually it is. Netflix determines a shows worth by views and or new subscribers (actually so does Amazon Prime but Prime also sells seasons of shows so it has other metrics too). It might even have more of an impact as traditional networks will these day pay for multiple seasons or be fine with shows that underperform comparatively but can be put into slots and pull in specific demographics.
Netflix has cancelled shows before based on not meeting targets etc.
Also as it's specifically targeting Dave Chappelle's special with the grounds of remove it or you boycott I would say it would fall into a category of trying to cancel Chappelle. If you were boycotting due to lack of shows for Trans people that would NOT be cancelling as it's calling for improvements to the network in you view.
Well the world isn't always simple
See that's an interesting one because it depends how much you believe she had a hand in crafting the films and didn't just do a poor job planning and looking over who would take the reigns of the franchise and their plans. Honestly ideally I'd want her moved to a franchise where she actually seems to work a an executive in charge of it because her run on managing Star Wars has seen sentient rocks join Star Wars as a race along with writers on about how Tie Fighters "Hibbled and bibbled herkily jerkily across the sky". Even still people don't want the films pulled from sale and no available for people to see, maybe erased from cannon going forward but still there as a sort of set of side tales like how the original expanded universe was made non cannon to make way for the Disney cannon.
Yeh but you could totally replace the stairs with abseil points and escape kits and on taller buildings you put some of the emergency quick opening parachutes. Both of which can technically be more accessible.
Yeah but...if it isn't permanent, and they can just keep on doing what they were doing...have they been cancelled? Like, this is what I mean right here, you tell me that Johnny Depp was cancelled, and I have not a clue what you are talking about. I don't follow social media, or most news to be honest, so I'm completely drawing a blank. Something to do with his messy relationship with...Jessica Heard? (Plus, isn't everyone back on 'Team Johnny' anyway or something?).
It sounds like that relationship was a trash fire and no one came out of it looking good.
But yes, now people are Team Johnny
That's kinda part of the joke.......
Amber Heard.
Also yes most of the audience of back on team Depp because holy shit his return fire lawsuit against her and just the masses of evidence pouring out including evidence of her setting up stuff deliberately to try and make him come off as worse and faking evidence against him then trying to sue people into silence who reveal evidence that shows she faked things. Like people say the truth with out and damn if it isn't pouring out these days.
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