THQ Kills Red Faction
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Guerrilla was one of the better multiplayer games ive played in a while. I remember thinking when Halo: Reach came out that they had gotten their equipment idea from Red Faction's backpacks.
then i heard Armageddon didn't even have multiplayer...such wasted potential.
then i heard Armageddon didn't even have multiplayer...such wasted potential.
Sure, but I'm just giving you the reason they would got for an approach like that. But I definitely agree on a game like that. I keep crossing fingers for a Saints Row iteration to use Geo Mod 2.0 (or a new Geo Mod).Shoggoth2588 said:
Hm, everyone usually complains about the abundance of franchises and lack of new ips, but when a mediocre series like Red Faction goes on the chopping block, people get upset.
Hate to sound like 4chan, but nothing of value was lost here. I still regret wasting my money on Guerrilla Warfare.
Hate to sound like 4chan, but nothing of value was lost here. I still regret wasting my money on Guerrilla Warfare.
The original was awful and I avoided the rest, so I can't say I'm disappointed to hear that the franchise is being put to rest. However from the reviews I've read the games didn't do poorly because of the setting, but because of poor gameplay choices and a poorly integrated story. I'd rather hear them say, "We believe the games did poorly because of X, Y, and Z and we'll be taking steps to rectify these problems in the future," making the same gameplay mistakes with a different setting isn't going to improve matters.
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The reason it didnt sell as well as Guriella(which I loved) was because it was a different style game. Instead of a open-world, blow everything to hell, balls-to-the-F&%$ing wall action title, they took the open world away and made it linear.
That and Red Faction isnt exactly a AAA series, Im sure Guriella didnt sell as much till the price went down. Im sure the same thing will happen when Armeggedon drops in price.
The reason it didnt sell as well as Guriella(which I loved) was because it was a different style game. Instead of a open-world, blow everything to hell, balls-to-the-F&%$ing wall action title, they took the open world away and made it linear.
That and Red Faction isnt exactly a AAA series, Im sure Guriella didnt sell as much till the price went down. Im sure the same thing will happen when Armeggedon drops in price.
The series probably would have benefited from improvement, which they seemed to ignore with Armageddon.
Still, can't say that I'll miss it. Hasn't been very good recently.
Still, can't say that I'll miss it. Hasn't been very good recently.
That business model is broken.Andy Chalk said:
If the only two outcomes are "smashing success" and "huge failure", the model is broken, and needs to be changed.
Maybe they should focus on mid-budgeted games. You know, the game equivalents of District 9 and Predators. Where it doesn't take as much as a massive blockbuster to make, and won't look as pretty, but it'll be much, much easier to turn a profit.
I kind of liked Guerilla, but it was to over the top for my tastes. To many times of getting stuck beneath bouncing cars after jumping out of a burning vehicle and all the pursuers slamming into me, Blues Brothers style. And then getting up and killing everyone. With sticky-bombs. WTF?!
The first Red Faction is the only one worth caring about in my opinion. The sequel was terrible and guerilla was as far from the first as you could get.
Red faction was buried along time ago.
Red faction was buried along time ago.
^^^ RF:G definitely left the roots of the series, but the mechanics had great potential. Open word with very destructible buildings was great fun. Needed to be refined not abandoned.
I was very interested in Armageddon until I played the demo and found out the whole game was more of the same...
The failure was purely based on design choices, not people magically not being interested in the series anymore. You take out all the fun stuff about Guerrilla and people don't buy it? Surprise, better kill the IP. I really don't know what the hell they were thinking then and now.
I was very interested in Armageddon until I played the demo and found out the whole game was more of the same...
The failure was purely based on design choices, not people magically not being interested in the series anymore. You take out all the fun stuff about Guerrilla and people don't buy it? Surprise, better kill the IP. I really don't know what the hell they were thinking then and now.
I liked the original it doesn't age well but it was a decent shooter with some interesting for its time mechanics, 2 was again an ok shooter didn't much like the story and there weere really no big improvements from 1, picked armegadon out of the bargain bin and it was still too costlie horribly done story along with bad gameplay design and wonky controlls yes destroying stuff is fun but you make a story and expect me to care about characters I've known for all of 10 minutes and their poorly explained plight the best example is your brothers death theres no time to form any attachment to him before they off him but its supposed to be sad and make me care. I was really surprised that it sold well enough to get a sequel that unsuprisingly is also a poor game. Sad to see the geomod go but thats about it.
On one hand, it's sad to hear.
On the other, I never bought any of them. There just always seemed to be something else more worth my time than "Hey, look, you can deform the terrain!" And I never really got a sense that the games were ever much more than that particular one-trick-pony.
I wish someone else would use the technology to do something where it was just one tool in the arsenal, so to speak.
On the other, I never bought any of them. There just always seemed to be something else more worth my time than "Hey, look, you can deform the terrain!" And I never really got a sense that the games were ever much more than that particular one-trick-pony.
I wish someone else would use the technology to do something where it was just one tool in the arsenal, so to speak.
