THQ Trash-Talks the Wii

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WraithGadra said:
Darkrai said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
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Darkrai said:
I'm proud to be a Wii owner. I love the Wii more than my X360. I can't wait for all those titles coming out soon.
You and me both...well you and me only Darkrai. When I eventually get my PS3 I doubt I'll love it as much as I have this console, but only time will tell.
WraithGadra said:
A third proud Wii owner reporting in. I just picked up Boom Blox Bash Party and LIT, and I couldn't be having more fun by myself. I'm going to try to pick up No More Heroes and Deadly Creatures, and with plenty of other games in the pipeline (most awaited being Wii Sports Resort and Water Warfare), my Wii will be entertaining everyone in the house for a long time.

Also, to everyone lamenting about the amount of Wii shovelware, remember that the PS2 has over 1000 games released for it with more being made. How many of those do you think are worth playing?
THIS. FOR FUCK SAKE.

I've been saying that for so, so long. The PS2 is considered to be loved by all, and yet about 60 percent of the titles on it are garbage and shovelware (me and my friends said that the PlayStation was a whore console). But apparently people seemed to forget that when they talk about the PS2, bit odd isn't it?
Quite odd. But I agree with WraithGadra. The amount of shovelware on the Wii is nowhere near as high as the PS2.
In my experience, the prevailing logic is that it's ok for a game to be garbage as long as it at least attempts to appeal to the "hardcore" sensibilities. If a game attempts to appeal to "casuals", it will be crucified. If a game is garbage and attempts to appeal to "casuals", than nothing can save it from the oncoming fury it will endure.
But there were so, so many games that were casual orientated on the PS2 back in the day, so many it's blinding, but people seem to just reject them whenever they think of the console.

But yes, that logic is correct.
 

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WraithGadra said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
Darkrai said:
I'm proud to be a Wii owner. I love the Wii more than my X360. I can't wait for all those titles coming out soon.
You and me both...well you and me only Darkrai. When I eventually get my PS3 I doubt I'll love it as much as I have this console, but only time will tell.
A third proud Wii owner reporting in. I just picked up Boom Blox Bash Party and LIT, and I couldn't be having more fun by myself. I'm going to try to pick up No More Heroes and Deadly Creatures, and with plenty of other games in the pipeline (most awaited being Wii Sports Resort and Water Warfare), my Wii will be entertaining everyone in the house for a long time.

Also, to everyone lamenting about the amount of Wii shovelware, remember that the PS2 has over 1000 games released for it with more being made. How many of those do you think are worth playing?
Remember that the PS2 didn't need to advertise it's horrible shovelware. It actually had games for every person of the family to cover up all the horrible shovelware. From Ratchet and Clank to God of War and from Armored Core to Dark Cloud, nobody could not be happy with it.

The Wii lacks alot of good games and has to constantly advertise baby games to small kids and get an actually good game in once every blue moon.

Also, the Wii will stop selling after the new console comes out. The Ps2 is still selling better than the 360 and Wii ever could, and requires no gimmicky controller. The fact that it is even outselling it's bigger brother the Ps3 and that people complain about a lack of BC is a sign that people love the PS2.

Nobody cares about the multitude of multiconsole Gamecube games because you can simply get many of them on other consles, and XBOX Live is shutting down it's originals service because few people were interested. Yet the PS2 outshined all of them and is a shining example of how a video game system should be done.
 

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*facepalm*

The reason the Wii is so flooded with shovelware is because stupid stupid people decided that good games won't stand out and instead they release more shovelware. I know for a fact that the good games stand out, people buy them. If they stopped bitching about shovelware and stopped making more of it then we might not have this problem.
 

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Is THQ really in a position to be insulting anything? I mean, at least Midway sometimes makes good games.
 

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Pendragon9 said:
WraithGadra said:
ChromeAlchemist said:
Darkrai said:
I'm proud to be a Wii owner. I love the Wii more than my X360. I can't wait for all those titles coming out soon.
You and me both...well you and me only Darkrai. When I eventually get my PS3 I doubt I'll love it as much as I have this console, but only time will tell.
A third proud Wii owner reporting in. I just picked up Boom Blox Bash Party and LIT, and I couldn't be having more fun by myself. I'm going to try to pick up No More Heroes and Deadly Creatures, and with plenty of other games in the pipeline (most awaited being Wii Sports Resort and Water Warfare), my Wii will be entertaining everyone in the house for a long time.

Also, to everyone lamenting about the amount of Wii shovelware, remember that the PS2 has over 1000 games released for it with more being made. How many of those do you think are worth playing?
Remember that the PS2 didn't need to advertise it's horrible shovelware. It actually had games for every person of the family to cover up all the horrible shovelware. From Ratchet and Clank to God of War and from Armored Core to Dark Cloud, nobody could not be happy with it.

The Wii lacks alot of good games and has to constantly advertise baby games to small kids and get an actually good game in once every blue moon.

Also, the Wii will stop selling after the new console comes out. The Ps2 is still selling better than the 360 and Wii ever could, and requires no gimmicky controller. The fact that it is even outselling it's bigger brother the Ps3 and complain about a lack of BC is a sign that people love the PS2.

Nobody cares about the multitude of multiconsole Gamecube games because you can simply get many of them on other consles, and XBOX Live is shutting down it's originals service because few people were interested. Yet the PS2 outshined all of them and is a shining example of how a video game system should be done.
The PS2 outselling the PS3 isn't really that big of an achievement. The PS3 is a piece of overpriced shit that no one wants. I doubt very much that the Wii is going to fall by the wayside anytime soon simply because the good games on the Wii use the wiimotes in a mature way. The only games that see it as a gimmick are the shovelware.

The continued success of the Wii, PS2 and DS over more graphic intensive platforms like PS3, Xbox360 and PSP show up more as an indictment of the "Better graphics = better game" school of development. No one gives a shit how many polygons your ferns have and how dynamic your lighting is. (looking at you Crysis)
 

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Limos said:
The PS3 is a piece of overpriced shit that no one wants.
*facepalm* Oy. Once again someone cries about the price. Will you people get over it already?
 

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Pendragon9 said:
Limos said:
The PS3 is a piece of overpriced shit that no one wants.
*facepalm* Oy. Once again someone cries about the price. Will you people get over it already?
That'll happen as soon as people stop crying "Gimmick!" at the Wii.
 

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Pendragon9 said:
Limos said:
The PS3 is a piece of overpriced shit that no one wants.
*facepalm* Oy. Once again someone cries about the price. Will you people get over it already?
But...it is overpriced. At least with regards to how many people are willing to spend the money on it. I mean, the PS2 suffered from the same complaints in the beginning too but at least Sony listened and lowered the prices.

With regards to the PS2 being so awesome and the wii just a fad, the wii has sold almost 51 million times and the PS2 136 million, but the Wii is only here since 2006. Yes the PS2 is the best selling console ever, but the Wii isn't being replaced soon.
 

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WraithGadra said:
Pendragon9 said:
Limos said:
The PS3 is a piece of overpriced shit that no one wants.
*facepalm* Oy. Once again someone cries about the price. Will you people get over it already?
That'll happen as soon as people stop crying "Gimmick!" at the Wii.
Well, the Wii has a mindless horde of gamers that will swallow any crap they flow out, so really, it only has a few things that make it worthwhile. Also, does the Wii Vitality sensor ring a bell?

The Ps3 may have a bigger price, but it is not a bad console. I swear, you people just don't get that. The PC is even more expensive, and somehow nobody cares about it's price.

Why can't we all get along? Why must hating the PS3 for no good reason whatsoever make people feel better about themselves?
 

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Pendragon9 said:
WraithGadra said:
Pendragon9 said:
Limos said:
The PS3 is a piece of overpriced shit that no one wants.
*facepalm* Oy. Once again someone cries about the price. Will you people get over it already?
That'll happen as soon as people stop crying "Gimmick!" at the Wii.
Well, the Wii has a mindless horde of gamers that will swallow any crap they flow out, so really, it only has a few things that make it worthwhile. Also, does the Wii Vitality sensor ring a bell?
Does the PS3 waggle wand ring a bell? Or how about the Six-Axis controllers that don't even work right? How about text chat being touted as a major firmware upgrade? Or that poorly-disguised Second Life clone known as Playstation Home? See I can be overly judgemental about hardware and software that isn't up to spec too

The Ps3 may have a bigger price, but it is not a bad console. I swear, you people just don't get that. The PC is even more expensive, and somehow nobody cares about it's price.
Yeah I don't care about the price of my PC because unlike the PS3 which claims to be more than a games machine, a PC is more than a games machine. I can do my level development work, art, 3D rendering, etc. Something I cannot do on the holy and flawless $500 Blu-Ray player. Maybe it hasn't occured to you, but some people maybe only see one or two exclusive games for the PS3 that they'd want, and that isn't enough to justify the price tag. Nor is having to buy their entire movie collection all over again for a negligible increase in picture quality. Yes, I said it. I have seen blu-ray's power firsthand and I am not impressed by it.

And what do you mean, you people? People who actually *gasp* enjoy the Wii for the good games it does have? Or do you just think those people are the same people who automatically assume the Wii Vitality Sensor is a good idea (protip: no we don't. That doesn't affect opinion however)

Why can't we all get along? Why must hating the PS3 for no good reason whatsoever make people feel better about themselves?
Why can't we all get along, why must hating the Wii for no good reason whatsoever make people feel better about themselves? And yes, I did just turn your words around. Be serious, you're not being persecuted just because Sony has made some monumentally bad decisions over the last 6 or so years, so stop pretending that you are.
 

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AceDiamond said:
Pendragon9 said:
WraithGadra said:
Pendragon9 said:
Limos said:
The PS3 is a piece of overpriced shit that no one wants.
*facepalm* Oy. Once again someone cries about the price. Will you people get over it already?
That'll happen as soon as people stop crying "Gimmick!" at the Wii.
Well, the Wii has a mindless horde of gamers that will swallow any crap they flow out, so really, it only has a few things that make it worthwhile. Also, does the Wii Vitality sensor ring a bell?
Does the PS3 waggle wand ring a bell? Or how about the Six-Axis controllers that don't even work right? How about text chat being touted as a major firmware upgrade? Or that poorly-disguised Second Life clone known as Playstation Home? See I can be overly judgemental about hardware and software that isn't up to spec too

The Ps3 may have a bigger price, but it is not a bad console. I swear, you people just don't get that. The PC is even more expensive, and somehow nobody cares about it's price.
Yeah I don't care about the price of my PC because unlike the PS3 which claims to be more than a games machine, a PC is more than a games machine. I can do my level development work, art, 3D rendering, etc. Something I cannot do on the holy and flawless $500 Blu-Ray player. Maybe it hasn't occured to you, but some people maybe only see one or two exclusive games for the PS3 that they'd want, and that isn't enough to justify the price tag. Nor is having to buy their entire movie collection all over again for a negligible increase in picture quality. Yes, I said it. I have seen blu-ray's power firsthand and I am not impressed by it.

And what do you mean, you people? People who actually *gasp* enjoy the Wii for the good games it does have? Or do you just think those people are the same people who automatically assume the Wii Vitality Sensor is a good idea (protip: no we don't. That doesn't affect opinion however)

Why can't we all get along? Why must hating the PS3 for no good reason whatsoever make people feel better about themselves?
Why can't we all get along, why must hating the Wii for no good reason whatsoever make people feel better about themselves? And yes, I did just turn your words around. Be serious, you're not being persecuted just because Sony has made some monumentally bad decisions over the last 6 or so years, so stop pretending that you are.
I can admit the Wii has some good games at least. I'm humble about that. Despite alot of crap they put out, I don't ignore the good games. And I am looking forward to that new Metroid as well. Even the new Super Mario Galaxy seems to have something going on.

All you morons however like to say the PS3 doesn't have a single good game whatsoever. So what if you personally don't liek the exclusives? How dare you think you have the right to say what's a hit and what isn't. That is an insult to the gaming industry as a whole, because you think your opinion is better than the millions who bought a PS3, and the people who work hard on those games don't need your crap when other people can enjoy the game just fine. So really, you're the one making all the bad decisions if you think your opinion will sway the entire damn industry.

Oh, and you're pretty lazy to have to use my words against me instead of using your own words. Just so you know. :p

About what you said about the PC, I don't care how good it is. If everyone on there is just as big a snob about it as you, no price tag would make it worth it. How about being humble for a change instead of being a brutally overly hyped incarnation of your own self esteem?
 

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Pendragon9 said:
All you morons however like to say the PS3 doesn't have a single good game whatsoever. So what if you personally don't liek the exclusives? How dare you think you have the right to say what's a hit and what isn't. That is an insult to the gaming industry as a whole, because you think your opinion is better than the millions who bought a PS3, and the people who work hard on those games don't need your crap when other people can enjoy the game just fine. So really, you're the one making all the bad decisions if you think your opinion will sway the entire damn industry.
Welcome to the world of a Wii owner.
 

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Lonko said:
Pendragon9 said:
All you morons however like to say the PS3 doesn't have a single good game whatsoever. So what if you personally don't liek the exclusives? How dare you think you have the right to say what's a hit and what isn't. That is an insult to the gaming industry as a whole, because you think your opinion is better than the millions who bought a PS3, and the people who work hard on those games don't need your crap when other people can enjoy the game just fine. So really, you're the one making all the bad decisions if you think your opinion will sway the entire damn industry.
Welcome to the world of a Wii owner.
Seconding Lonko's statement. Pendragon9, are you seriously going to ignore the parallel nature of your paragraph? Just to make it obvious to everyone:

"All you morons however like to say the Wii doesn't have a single good game whatsoever. So what if you personally don't like the exclusives? How dare you think you have the right to say what's a hit and what isn't. That is an insult to the gaming industry as a whole, because you think your opinion is better than the millions who bought a Wii, and the people who work hard on those games don't need your crap when other people can enjoy the game just fine. So really, you're the one making all the bad decisions if you think your opinion will sway the entire damn industry."

P.S. Showing the Vitality Sensor without any software to demonstrate it was a mistake. The same one Microsoft and Sony made with their motion controls.
 

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Well,we all the remember the gamecude right?Now that was fun,same classic controller,classic games and very little shovelware.Classics like super mario sunshine,super smash bros melee,paper mario the thousand year door and luigis mansion ect.That console was pretty unpopular,at least were I live, while it was good it was ignored.But with the wii its the other way around,its crap and its known by EVERYBODY.So....wait what was I talking about?

Exscuse I think I went off-topic there,the point is nintendo cant hear us under there piles of money and they are too busy making shovelware.They make far too many movies into games which always leads into crap 99.9% of the time.So,if they keep at this they are going to lose their entire gaming audience,in fact there more than have way there!The casual and children category wont keep them going forever!COME ON NINTENDO STOP SCREWING THE FUCK AROUND AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLES VOICE!
 

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In my opinion both THQ and Nintendo are at fault.

THQ are being hypocrites they say the Wii has junk games and yet a fair share of their games are junk games.

Nintendo is at fault for releasing such junk games. They could stop and think how the junk games are hurting their console but they don't. They let the junk games filter through.
 

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gof22 said:
In my opinion both THQ and Nintendo are at fault.

THQ are being hypocrites they say the Wii has junk games and yet a fair share of their games are junk games.

Nintendo is at fault for releasing such junk games. They could stop and think how the junk games are hurting their console but they don't. They let the junk games filter through.
Yup,THQ atchually thinks we dont realise.They love being the innocent ones...
 

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I've been saying it's a childs toy since a week after it came out and sold mine for 500$ to a mom for her 3 year old to chew on.
 

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Anoctris said:
While the Wii is a console, has lots of games and a funky method of control that challenges other companies to excel, in my humble opinion - no person who considers themselves a 'Gamer', and all the possible connotations of that title, plays a Wii. It's just not that kind of system.

The Wii, in my mind - like the Game Boy, is something to do for 20mins while you wait to do/for something else. It's a time filler, like ads on TV, something to grasp your momentary attention before you get back to main event.

Now I'm sure the unwashed hordes of Nintendo fans will rush to rebuke me, but really, no matter what you say or tell yourselves...you know I'm right.

But if you enjoy playing that way - who am I to tell you any different?
Because of course, your opinion is representative of every other gamer on the planet.

cyber druid said:
Well,we all the remember the gamecude right?Now that was fun,same classic controller,classic games and very little shovelware.Classics like super mario sunshine,super smash bros melee,paper mario the thousand year door and luigis mansion ect.That console was pretty unpopular,at least were I live, while it was good it was ignored.But with the wii its the other way around,its crap and its known by EVERYBODY.So....wait what was I talking about?

Exscuse I think I went off-topic there,the point is nintendo cant hear us under there piles of money and they are too busy making shovelware.They make far too many movies into games which always leads into crap 99.9% of the time.So,if they keep at this they are going to lose their entire gaming audience,in fact there more than have way there!The casual and children category wont keep them going forever!COME ON NINTENDO STOP SCREWING THE FUCK AROUND AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLES VOICE!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gamecube_games

The reason the Gamecube had less shovelware was because it had less games. The classic-to-crap ratio is almost always skewed toward crap on every system.