To anyone who thinks piracy is ok

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I love reading all the posts that think that every person that has ever pirated anything is the scum of the Earth, only to see that most of their avatars are copyrighted material that you know they didn't get permission to use.

Piracy isn't just movies, games, and music. It's images, too. Hypocrites.
 

Twilight_guy

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Mcface said:
Twilight_guy said:
You see now your trying to convince pirates and the thing is pirates all have very nice and tidy excuses for why they are all miserable little entitled pricks. Either their assholes in which case you're never going to convince them or they have some flimsy excuse. No, you are not entitled to play a game because it exits or dictate what the game should be or how much it should cost. You will pay the price tag or not pay at all and you will deal with what content is there no matter how unfair it is or not buy it. This is not a democracy this is economics. Enjoy the game and pay for it or don't buy it, don't be a stealing douche and for the love of Jesus don't say "its okay because games are expensive and don't have enough stuff in them. LOLOLOLOL" because that just makes you sound like a idiot black hole.
Just remember the next time you blow half your paycheck on a shitty game, and are upset, I'll be laughing at how bad the game is. for free ;)
That's okay. I'm going to hold fast to my beliefs. Being a good person is more important then wasting a little money on a blown game. Now go steal games and pretend like its okay.
 

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mrsultana said:
Look, I'm a highly trained medical professional. People come into my ER who can't pay. They get the same treatment as those that can. And we all share the burden of cost because the world would be a worse place if we didn't. The hospitals are in trouble, but we are still there despite pay cuts, increased hours, decreased benefits, and supply shortages. I still find time to volunteer and give more. People aren't always grateful and we complain about the ones that abuse the system, but we do it because we think the best of people and love our craft.
main difference is that hospitals and the like are a service that is provided to everyone whether its free of charge or not and whether they can pay is also a factor while games are something that is run as a business and so cant afford to act as a service
 
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Garak73 said:
I think DLC will go down in history as bad. Honestly, do you think most DLC is crappy or worthy?

There is a fine line between DLC and "it should have been in the game to start with".

The DRM was on Spore BEFORE anyone pirated it.
I think the average quality of DLC isn't as important as the concept as a whole. DLC allows developers to extend the experience of a game past what is released. What "should have been in the game to start with" could mean another half year of development instead of an orderly release date.

Spore wasn't the first game to be pirated. EA put the DRM to prevent piracy. The invasive nature of the DRM made more people pirate it. Refer to the flowchart.

matthew_lane said:
I hate to break it too you but Pirates have there way now. All it takes is a single guy to pirate a single thing & its done. PC game developers need to wake upto this & start putting out a good product, with a reasonable price tag, and with Demo's coming out a couple of months before release so we can see if its worth purchasing & see if it will run on our individual machines.
This argument is outrageous. I'm a pirate. I decide that a game should be sold for $5 and any more is too much. Or better yet, I don't give a shit what pricing the developer puts on it, I can always get it for free. Developers catering to the pirates is not a realistic answer.
 

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Twilight_guy said:
Mcface said:
Twilight_guy said:
You see now your trying to convince pirates and the thing is pirates all have very nice and tidy excuses for why they are all miserable little entitled pricks. Either their assholes in which case you're never going to convince them or they have some flimsy excuse. No, you are not entitled to play a game because it exits or dictate what the game should be or how much it should cost. You will pay the price tag or not pay at all and you will deal with what content is there no matter how unfair it is or not buy it. This is not a democracy this is economics. Enjoy the game and pay for it or don't buy it, don't be a stealing douche and for the love of Jesus don't say "its okay because games are expensive and don't have enough stuff in them. LOLOLOLOL" because that just makes you sound like a idiot black hole.
Just remember the next time you blow half your paycheck on a shitty game, and are upset, I'll be laughing at how bad the game is. for free ;)
That's okay. I'm going to hold fast to my beliefs. Being a good person is more important then wasting a little money on a blown game. Now go steal games and pretend like its okay.
Your avatar is copyrighted material owned by CBS. Unless you have permission from them to use it, you're a pirate. You're using their work without paying for it and without permission.

If you want to hold fast to your beliefs, you should change it, or get their permission to use it.
 

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But what about the parrots and eyepatches?

In all seriousness my father makes small time games and there ware at least a hundred people a day who try to get them off his site for free, since then I've had quite a one-sided view against piracy.
 

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Until video game companies allow for the return of their products (go ahead and make it short, like 48 hours) then I don't see how they can say pirating is wrong when they physically steal $60+ for a piece of shit that doesn't run or ends up being absolutely awful. Most games don't come with demos for a reason, they'd rather you sink your hard earned money into their failure before you know what exactly you're getting (or end up never getting because it won't even work). They offer absolutely ZERO guarantees on their products and there is no holding them to their "promises" of continued support.

When you don't run your business honestly and treat your paying customers like crap then you reap what you sow. This current industry created the "need" for piracy and all they know how to do is make the monster bigger.
 

Twilight_guy

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-Samurai- said:
Twilight_guy said:
Mcface said:
Twilight_guy said:
You see now your trying to convince pirates and the thing is pirates all have very nice and tidy excuses for why they are all miserable little entitled pricks. Either their assholes in which case you're never going to convince them or they have some flimsy excuse. No, you are not entitled to play a game because it exits or dictate what the game should be or how much it should cost. You will pay the price tag or not pay at all and you will deal with what content is there no matter how unfair it is or not buy it. This is not a democracy this is economics. Enjoy the game and pay for it or don't buy it, don't be a stealing douche and for the love of Jesus don't say "its okay because games are expensive and don't have enough stuff in them. LOLOLOLOL" because that just makes you sound like a idiot black hole.
Just remember the next time you blow half your paycheck on a shitty game, and are upset, I'll be laughing at how bad the game is. for free ;)
That's okay. I'm going to hold fast to my beliefs. Being a good person is more important then wasting a little money on a blown game. Now go steal games and pretend like its okay.
Your avatar is copyrighted material owned by CBS. Unless you have permission from them to use it, you're a pirate. You're using their work without paying for it and without permission.

If you want to hold fast to your beliefs, you should change it, or get their permission to use it.
How do you know I don't have permission? Also, unless I'm using it for commercial purpose I'm pretty much allowed to use it however I like.
Also, Ad hominem, geee.
 

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Twilight_guy said:
-Samurai- said:
Twilight_guy said:
Mcface said:
Twilight_guy said:
You see now your trying to convince pirates and the thing is pirates all have very nice and tidy excuses for why they are all miserable little entitled pricks. Either their assholes in which case you're never going to convince them or they have some flimsy excuse. No, you are not entitled to play a game because it exits or dictate what the game should be or how much it should cost. You will pay the price tag or not pay at all and you will deal with what content is there no matter how unfair it is or not buy it. This is not a democracy this is economics. Enjoy the game and pay for it or don't buy it, don't be a stealing douche and for the love of Jesus don't say "its okay because games are expensive and don't have enough stuff in them. LOLOLOLOL" because that just makes you sound like a idiot black hole.
Just remember the next time you blow half your paycheck on a shitty game, and are upset, I'll be laughing at how bad the game is. for free ;)
That's okay. I'm going to hold fast to my beliefs. Being a good person is more important then wasting a little money on a blown game. Now go steal games and pretend like its okay.
Your avatar is copyrighted material owned by CBS. Unless you have permission from them to use it, you're a pirate. You're using their work without paying for it and without permission.

If you want to hold fast to your beliefs, you should change it, or get their permission to use it.
How do you know I don't have permission? Also, unless I'm using it for commercial purpose I'm pretty much allowed to use it however I like.
Also, Ad hominem, geee.
You're one of those "Piracy is wrong, except when I do it. Then my excuses are valid while yours are not." type of people.

Your hypocrisy is showing.
 

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YukoValis said:
If they started pricing right I wouldn't consider piracy. 60$ for medal of honor? 50$ for front mission evo? 40$ for dead rising 2? These games are not worth the price, and I've gotten ripped off way to many times. Oh and for anyone who says "you can wait for the prices to drop" take a look at CoD MW 2. Still 60$ after about 2 years, and it's only half as good as CoD 4. Price them reasonably and sure I'd buy it. The only time I wouldn't pirate ever would be for companies just starting.
Games have been those prices for years, we're talking Nintendo games were that price. Now, take into account inflation and how much more product you get with the game, let's take Cod4, a good game, compared with Super Mario Bros., another good game (to say the least, for both of them, I didn't choose any scrubby games). Would you feel ripped off buying Super Mario Bros. for $60? 20+ years down the line and they're still $60 after inflation and you get games with the quality like CoD4; I don't think they're too expensive at all.
 
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Garak73 said:
This argument is outrageous. I'm a pirate. I decide that a game should be sold for $5 and any more is too much. Or better yet, I don't give a shit what pricing the developer puts on it, I can always get it for free. Developers catering to the pirates is not a realistic answer.
That's what developers do though, they cater to the pirates and it's the paying customer who suffer, not the pirates. In fact, this method is only leading paying customers down the path of piracy.

Perhaps developers should cater to the paying customers and drop the DRM.
There is a difference between cater to and respond to. If the developers catered to the pirates there would be no DRM and games would cost 50 cents and presumably come enclosed with 4GB worth of porn. But what we have ended up with is similar to a fight between two very immature children. Both are in the wrong, and neither one will stop until the other stops first. The only difference is one party is acting legally.


Cronq said:
Until video game companies allow for the return of their products (go ahead and make it short, like 48 hours) then I don't see how they can say pirating is wrong when they physically steal $60+ for a piece of shit that doesn't run or ends up being absolutely awful. Most games don't come with demos for a reason, they'd rather you sink your hard earned money into their failure before you know what exactly you're getting (or end up never getting because it won't even work). They offer absolutely ZERO guarantees on their products and there is no holding them to their "promises" of continued support.

When you don't run your business honestly and treat your paying customers like crap then you reap what you sow. This current industry created the "need" for piracy and all they know how to do is make the monster bigger.
If you are so upset by buying games that are lower than your expectations and/or don't run properly, here's an outlandish fantasy idea I've just come up with. Wait a week or so. See how the game is received by both reviewers and the gaming community. Ask people who have similar system specs to yours how the game is. Stop pretending there's any sort of "need" for piracy and grow up.