Todd Howard, Skyrim Dev, thinks COD is 'hardcore'.
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Oh, for fuck's sake. Two minutes earlier, he said that they felt no real worry about changing their game to suit the market, becuase they believe that there would always be a market for the stuff that *they* wanted to make.
Now please stop fear mongering. The culture of hating CoD is a totally pretentious one, and you're not helping. Furthermore, - look. I don't want to go into this. Just please, understand that you're kicking up a fuss over nothing.
Now please stop fear mongering. The culture of hating CoD is a totally pretentious one, and you're not helping. Furthermore, - look. I don't want to go into this. Just please, understand that you're kicking up a fuss over nothing.
2 things...I can play CoD completely casually and I know tons of people that do...however the bulk plays hardcore...Also it doesn't matter what he says about CoD...he worked on Skyrim and I regard him as a saint...even if he say had people for dinner last night
They said Creation Kit will be available for PC version. So I don't care how badly they fuck up the game, and how easy and accessible they make it. Everything they fuck up, modders will fix.
I agree with him, and I'm not worried. I agree with every change that they have made in skyrim. I was a little worried about the stats at first, but he is right, it is a quicker road to getting the control you want. In oblivion, you basically have to take endurance every level until it's at 100, and for max power, you want to take luck as well. This means that you really only get to choose one ability each level with an optimized character.xXxJessicaxXx said:
With a class like an assassin, for example, this means that you're light-armor skill will be relatively weak, because you will have to dump your stat points into agility for everything else. or with a casting character, you have to choose between more magicka, alteration, and mysticism, or faster regenerating magicka, restoration, and destruction. Meaning you basically have to pick between having more magicka, or being better at combat magic, which reduces your strength. With a character that is trying to do multiple things, the situation is even worse, reducing your strength in two or even 3 areas because you have so few choices.
With the new system, you control your characters abilities fully by adjusting your skills, as opposed to only half. This lets you do exactly what you want to do with your character without being ridiculously weak for the first 20-30 levels. A much better system.
To be honest yes COD does have RPG elements, and hardcore is a pretty hard term to define and so far what I've seen of Skyrim is good and most complaints are small things or negated by something else, eg cuirass merged with greaves negated by crafting.
The issue here is that this site is filled with a lot of irrational hate for the CoD franchise. Therefore if you like CoD, you must live in a cave and power your gaming device by using a stationary bike while playing.lord.jeff said:
Well... I agree with him.
I personally wouldn't consider it a "Hardcore" type of game, but I see where he's coming from.
Call of Duty 4 made it's name by it's perk system. Which in essence, was just a big RPG mechanic.
What does it mean? Casual FPS players could eventually learn to like a complex game like Skyrim.
I personally wouldn't consider it a "Hardcore" type of game, but I see where he's coming from.
Call of Duty 4 made it's name by it's perk system. Which in essence, was just a big RPG mechanic.
What does it mean? Casual FPS players could eventually learn to like a complex game like Skyrim.
For real who picks these people to represend them, why would you get people like that. It's like those really annoying commercials they try to make you remember them by making them as abnoxious as possible.
I don't care, I'll get Skyrim, it will be good, and it won't be like CoD (For everyone hatin')
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I generally think of "hardcore" as how ridiculously complicated things are, either in the actual game itself or things around it. Civilization is hardcore, Dungeons and Dragons is hardcore, and only the people who are serious fans, "hardcore" are willing to make the effort to play them. CoD meanwhile is a kind of pick up and play thing that people who aren't gamers in general will still play, something akin to Halo, or Madden. It just says in how it's "the most popular game in the world."
Actually I guess I look at it in terms how "geeky" something is traditionally viewed.
Actually I guess I look at it in terms how "geeky" something is traditionally viewed.
Hardcore can be a pretty subjective term.
I would agree that in terms of getting used to the gameplay so much that you become good at it is hardcore concidering everyone else who's playing. I would also say that the speed of confrontation in COD games, especially MW2, makes cod hardcore for the amount of concentration it requires to keep yourself alive.
However as far is making your classes choosing your guns and running around shooting things goes, it's not hardcore. It's a simple concept to pick up, it's mastering it that's the hard part.
I would agree that in terms of getting used to the gameplay so much that you become good at it is hardcore concidering everyone else who's playing. I would also say that the speed of confrontation in COD games, especially MW2, makes cod hardcore for the amount of concentration it requires to keep yourself alive.
However as far is making your classes choosing your guns and running around shooting things goes, it's not hardcore. It's a simple concept to pick up, it's mastering it that's the hard part.
This. To me, that statement has "troll" written all over it. Besides, you can't even remotely compare CoD to TES. I doubt Skyrim will be this "streamlined".Kahunaburger said:
Still gonna buy it at day 1
.He's got a point. If you think about it, COD online is effectively a shoot em up RPG, you level up, you create characters based around your play style, and you collect weapons. Sure this approach is often used in online shooters, but we should remember COD was the first to do it. Perhaps the point he's trying to make is that you can make in depth RPG elements streamlined and it'd still be hardcore.
So Todd has an opinion on something. Cool!
OT: Like I said, he's just voicing his opinion. I don't think the fact that Todd likes CoD is going to have much significance on Skyrim.
OT: Like I said, he's just voicing his opinion. I don't think the fact that Todd likes CoD is going to have much significance on Skyrim.
