Top female Twitch streamer Amouranth stream turns dark as an apparent abusive husband comes to light

[XsjadoBlayde]

People also keep blaming everything and everyone else instead of taking any kind of responsibility. Blame the media for being bad instead of supporting good media coverage. Blame Amazon for being so evil when they can, I don't know, not fucking buy from Amazon.

People also keep assuming all those people are the same people instead of like different people because people are not just one homogeneous static noise that can be dismissed as inherently contradictory from a distant just cause one voice says one thing while another does a different thing. This is basic bítch logic for crying out loud dude.

 

[Chimpzy]

Bit of topic, but have we collectively decided to just ignore the robot? I'm fine with it btw, just checking.

 

[Baffle]

People also keep blaming everything and everyone else instead of taking any kind of responsibility. Blame the media for being bad instead of supporting good media coverage. Blame Amazon for being so evil when they can, I don't know, not fucking buy from Amazon.

I didn't say there was no personal responsibility required, I said you can't just hand-wave away the influence of the media, because it's overwhelming. That's like being the guy who says 'Adverts don't work on me.' Sure they don't Mr Super Special Freethinker, you're immune to advertising and everyone else is just a silly little sheeple.

And yeah, Amazon is bad and I wish people wouldn't use it, but the problem is quite far along now and some of the alternatives to shopping at Amazon have gone out of business while people weren't paying attention, so your choice as a consumer is reduced to Amazon or nothing in some cases. Or you can order it on eBay and it gets sent directly from Amazon. Great.

 

[Silvanus]

This is a quite naive understanding of media influence - people's wants and desires (for sad and inhuman cruelty) aren't formed in a vacuum.

This is worse than naivety. Phoenix is displaying mindless self-deception and projection with a huge lack of empathy. His attitude is not surprising to me at all.

Remember when petroleum companies popularised the term "carbon footprint" specifically to shift the burden of responsibility for making societal changes onto the individual, rather than the corporations that were actually perpetrating the damage?

Phoenix is essentially doing the same thing, and the suits didn't even have to pay anything!

 

[Phoenixmgs]

People also keep assuming all those people are the same people instead of like different people because people are not just one homogeneous static noise that can be dismissed as inherently contradictory from a distant just cause one voice says one thing while another does a different thing. This is basic bítch logic for crying out loud dude.

I wasn't implying everyone is the same person. Both sides now just dismiss the other side entirely instead of even trying to understand them, it's the most annoying with regards to the left because it's so hypocritical and against the progressive all-inclusive value as you promote diversity but actually don't want diversity of ideas. People on this very site say they'd settle for the other side just not voting.

I didn't say there was no personal responsibility required, I said you can't just hand-wave away the influence of the media, because it's overwhelming. That's like being the guy who says 'Adverts don't work on me.' Sure they don't Mr Super Special Freethinker, you're immune to advertising and everyone else is just a silly little sheeple.

And yeah, Amazon is bad and I wish people wouldn't use it, but the problem is quite far along now and some of the alternatives to shopping at Amazon have gone out of business while people weren't paying attention, so your choice as a consumer is reduced to Amazon or nothing in some cases. Or you can order it on eBay and it gets sent directly from Amazon. Great.

You can choose not to partake in the shit media. I won't really even try to look up anything on something until it's been some time and a lot of the facts are available because before that, the media does nothing but jump to conclusions based on nothing (and I can't think of the proper word for that to save my life right now). I literally knew nothing about the Rittenhouse case until the video evidence was publicly available. I'm not at commenting about say Amouranth because I don't know anything about it nor does anyone else. A lot of psychological stuff doesn't work on me for whatever reason, ads don't do anything for me unless it's a product that I didn't know about. There's that Food Theory video about grocery stores and how they trick you into staying longer and buying shit you don't need and my thought watching that is "people fall for that stuff?" because I go in and just buy the shit I came for and I'm out of the store in less than 10 minutes usually.

It's not the people just buying from Amazon that is annoying, it's the people that say how bad Amazon is and still buy stuff from them daily. I saw that early on how bad Amazon was going to be so actively avoided buying from Amazon early on, the writing was on the walls. It's just not gonna be good for me (and other consumers) when Amazon raises the prices after they squash the competition.

I would say the biggest problem is just not teaching important stuff like critical thinking in school. What high school has a class about discerning news media consumption? Hell, where's a class going over the very bad aspects of social media? It's really bad for your mental health. I never got into social media because I like interacting with people in person vs messaging them and I grew up during the social media boom and I never had a MySpace, I hardly used AIM, I begrudgingly made a FaceBook as my friends kinda forced me (and I'm glad I never put my actual name on it from the start).

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Remember when petroleum companies popularised the term "carbon footprint" specifically to shift the burden of responsibility for making societal changes onto the individual, rather than the corporations that were actually perpetrating the damage?

Phoenix is essentially doing the same thing, and the suits didn't even have to pay anything!

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I've said on this very forum, that people are not to blame for global warming because there is no alternative to using carbon because of said companies not providing one (and actively squashing any ones that do come up). I don't have control of that so I can't personally worry about driving my car to work or friends. I concern myself with controlling the stuff that I actually can like I can personally not eat like shit for example and not blame the fast food industry for being fat and unhealthy (and acting like there's nothing I can do about it).

 

[Baffle]

A lot of psychological stuff doesn't work on me for whatever reason, ads don't do anything for me unless it's a product that I didn't know about. There's that Food Theory video about grocery stores and how they trick you into staying longer and buying shit you don't need and my thought watching that is "people fall for that stuff?" because I go in and just buy the shit I came for and I'm out of the store in less than 10 minutes usually.

I didn't say you are that guy, it was just an example of chosen-one thinking. However, I simply do not believe that people are unaffected by advertising or the media around them; they are, they just haven't noticed.

 

[Silvanus]

I've said on this very forum, that people are not to blame for global warming because there is no alternative to using carbon because of said companies not providing one (and actively squashing any ones that do come up). I don't have control of that so I can't personally worry about driving my car to work or friends. I concern myself with controlling the stuff that I actually can like I can personally not eat like shit for example and not blame the fast food industry for being fat and unhealthy (and acting like there's nothing I can do about it).

You don't have control over what those companies do, that's true. But what you could do is refrain from leaping to their defence when criticism is levied.

 

[Buyetyen]

A lot of psychological stuff doesn't work on me for whatever reason,

Speaking as a former street magician, people who think this are actually the easiest in the world to deceive.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I didn't say you are that guy, it was just an example of chosen-one thinking. However, I simply do not believe that people are unaffected by advertising or the media around them; they are, they just haven't noticed.

I'm sure there's some at least subconscious effects but I never got why like super major brands like Pepsi or Oreos advertise there basic product, I very much know of those products and seeing ads for them doesn't make me want to buy them. Literally the only snacks I have in my house are pistachios and bananas (which totally aren't blanketing the world with ads), I'm not going to get some Doritos if I see an ad for them (maybe a new flavor just to try).

You don't have control over what those companies do, that's true. But what you could do is refrain from leaping to their defence when criticism is levied.

When am I leaping to their defense? I just said a company will produce what people want and that's me defending them? That's kinda the point of business, selling stuff people want. It's like getting mad of someone for defending a mole for digging holes (that's kinda what they do).

 

[Baffle]

Bit of topic, but have we collectively decided to just ignore the robot? I'm fine with it btw, just checking.

It seemed like the politest way to go about things.

 

[BrawlMan]

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I've said on this very forum, that people are not to blame for global warming because there is no alternative to using carbon because of said companies not providing one (and actively squashing any ones that do come up). I don't have control of that so I can't personally worry about driving my car to work or friends. I concern myself with controlling the stuff that I actually can like I can personally not eat like shit for example and not blame the fast food industry for being fat and unhealthy (and acting like there's nothing I can do about it).

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[BrawlMan]

Time to get this thread back on topic.

Amouranth reveals what she’s looking for after split from abusive husband - Dexerto

Amouranth revealed what she’s now looking for as she moves on following disturbing revelations about her husband and domestic abuse.

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Twitch Streamer Amouranth Says She's Taking A Break After Disclosing Abuse

The announcement comes days after Amouranth revealed that she was being abused by her husband

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Twitch streamer Amouranth 'seeking legal and emotional counsel' following on-stream domestic abuse allegations

In her first stream since alleging domestic abuse by husband, Amouranth says she now has access to her finances and social media account.

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[Trunkage]

Perfect example. Did you not see the videos of what actually happened? Funny how I basically ignored all media coverage and just sought out the facts and video evidence and had no preconceived notions beforehand. It was pretty simple case honestly. I've been on a jury for a criminal case before, only like 10% of the actual trial is pertinent to the jury's decision. I was on a case that lasted a week that could've been over in 2 hours. You do realize all 12 people have to agree, it was unanimous that they all said it was self-defense, it's not like it was 7-5 in favor of not guilty or something. But you know more than the 12 people that actually sat through the whole trial and you know Rittenhouse is guilty?

When the incident happened, I pointed out another case where a dad walked into an ice cream store in Florida in 2018 and the kids played outside. Some other dude started yelling and screaming at the kids so the dad came out and pushed him over. The other dude shot and killed the dad.

I told everyone from the moment that Rittenhouse shot someone that he was getting off scott free. If a dad cant protect his children without being used as a justifaction for being murdered, Rittenhouse waa getting free

Once again, you did not bother to listen. The LAW in America is so fucked up that you can get shot over eating a burger. Or standing still with no weapons and your hands up. No other country has these laws becuase they are literally stupid. It is why the homocide rate is so high in the US. There is little consequences to killing people there

Now, lets talk about what the media ACTUALLY did to Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse would NEVER, NEVER have been there without the media. Rittenhouse was told that the protesters were evil. He was told that he needed to stop them. He was told that he needed to take a gun and shoot people. No wonder he shot people. The media, for months was telling him to

I.e. all those things you were so worried about with the media and Rittenhouse also happened to the protesters. ALL of the protesters. Yes, the media is awful. No Rittenhouse didn't get treated unfairly. He got treated normally by the media

 

[Gamertrek]

So about Onlyfans peeps. Ewh....... I though college girls was pugly but this is just terrible. Granted she has a look and I understand the "Brand" but honestly. Ewhh.

1. She is clearly unfit, I mean okay that girl from "Breath Of Fire III" but she is a scholar. Their is almost no room between her flabbiness rump, and vaginal area, I mean maybe a little area I guess but then she always does this "Twerk" thing but is not hipnotic-twerp but more of a suggestion. Honestly she would make a great "GamerGate" cosplayer. I am not saying bleh all I am saying the quality of the content is meh.

2. Most part is not naked at all. Like some pre-teen on social-media or some Balerina or a person in a leotard, or bikini doing workouts or a pole-dancer but lacking dancing skills. I mean omgsh not my type, but again in person might be a different story, but again no, just no.,

3. In my opinion after seeing some of the recent vids, it just seems that this could have been all planned out to gain press, or attention as with GamerGate. I can not trust people streaming their personal lives. Clearly that "thing" he was going on about was her attempting to incriminate her. It is just silly to hear somebody say don't shoot my horse, let alone dog. The text she showed us I have no idea was planned or not only the phone provider could answer that as it is not written in stone as with twitter.
The conversations sounded very unprofessional. I mean if their was a "brand" or "false image" to preserve why didn't he just have this conversation not while she was streaming. It makes no sense at all. Even the whole account thing ( which is illegal ) should have never been a thing at all.

4. Back to her doing cosplay. I do adore her cosplay photos, and her cute but serious face. I find it sad she does not get into acting because she clearly has a stereotypical features and with proper coaching and directing might even make some great series. In fact this bs she pulled is almost like the way "The Nanny" got made ( where the actress literally had somebody break into her home and ...) but this whole thing looks planned and is impossible to actually get around. I wish her good luck to be an actress because I would actually watch a couple of episodes professional made, or not so professionally made.

5. Everything has been done really good and there has been no real nudity of her so far, so that being said her figure is kind of laid back, but beyond that would make a nice series.

 

[I can't enter my old name]

I'm not at commenting about say Amouranth because I don't know anything about it nor does anyone else. A lot of psychological stuff doesn't work on me for whatever reason, ads don't do anything for me unless it's a product that I didn't know about.

That sounds more like apathy to me. Those ads didn't work because you didn't care about the product.

If I hate hot-tub streamers and think female accusations are worth too much in weight, or the inverse, I couldn't stand to see a woman impugned as that would be de-legitimizing female accusations, I would immediately favor one side despite having no evidence.

But since I have no idea who these people are and have nothing to gain or lose with the outcome, I have no opinions. It's not that we're different and other people are irrational, it's that everyone is rational only some of the time.

I would say the biggest problem is just not teaching important stuff like critical thinking in school.

Well usually what happens when you teach people to be critical is that they are only critical of things they don't like. Like Hume said, "reason is slave to the passions."

 

[CriticalGaming]

After posting that she was going to change her content Amouranth's posting thirst trap tweets and still has her onlyfans up with all her porn readily available.

There is some argument to be made that she is now free to be sexual at her pace and that her claims of abuse are more the relentless volume of how much she had to put out because of her husband, versus her being able to make her sexy shit at whatever rate possible. There is another argument to be had that abuse leads to the abused person continuing the cycle of abuse, for example parents that grew up getting slapped around as kids will be more likely to slap their own kids around, or sexually abused people end up embracing it for porn.

So I suppose it's logical in some ways. But I just find it funny that she leaks this drama, gets a shitload of attention off of it, then not only is the problem resolved rapidly but also her content returns to basically normal if it even left at all, all in the span of a couple weeks. This is why people question drama when it comes to her and streamers like her. Was she really abused? Was it just a attention or headline grabbing scam? How can we ever know? But you know what happens to the boy who cried wolf right? That fucker got ate because nobody believed him when he told the truth.

 

[Cheetodust]

Was she really abused? Was it just a attention or headline grabbing scam? How can we ever know?

Anyone else read this in Tucker Carlson's voice? Just me?

 

[McElroy]

She's not going to quit her job. She's objectified now and forever (voluntarily) so might as well milk some simps. There was no reason to expect otherwise.

 

[CriticalGaming]

She's not going to quit her job. She's objectified now and forever (voluntarily) so might as well milk some simps. There was no reason to expect otherwise.

This might be true, but that doesn't mean she has to stick with that content, especially the super sexy or outright porno-graphic stuff. There are literal pornstars who stream on twitch and just play video games and have good times. They can never escape the porn, but there is no reason Amouranth couldn't change her content moving forward and leave that content behind. People would support her regardless, and she wouldn't have to always have abusive memories present for her whenever she showed a little tit right?

So that's the fishy thing in my mind. Why would you stick with the content that you were manipulated and forced to make? Rebranding is possible, and especially since she's taken a break she could have used that time to figure out how she wanted to restructure her content upon returning to twitch or whatever.