Top most hated/liked Cliche's

[VeryOddGamer]

I like: -Everyone being in a moral grey area.
-People being able to think of witty lines whenever they can.

I dislike: -Child heroes.
-Musical numbers (unless the movie/game/whatever is weird enough for them)

Can't think of anything else right now.

 

[AngloDoom]

Love:

- Heroes and villains with a running 'theme' Batman/Spiderman style.

- Jekyll/Hyde dynamics in characters



Hate hate hate:

- Man and woman fighting, each trying desperately to choke the other to death...half a minute later, they're fucking each other's brains out.

- Nerdy guy punches the bully, now the attractive girl who ignored him chases after the new alpha male.

 

[Squilookle]

I like WW2 games and films, but I dislike when they're always about the Americans... On DDay... and war is hell and nobody can possibly show any humour or enjoyment ever. Oh, and nobody else was there to fight the Nazzies, either...

I like sandboxes, but I am so sick to death of New York as a setting. It needs to be blacklisted or something.

I like Pixar films, but apart from you-know who from Toy Story 3, they haven't done a decent villain since the Incredibles.

I like the Bourne films, but I can't stand shakycam.

I like some cliches like characters always getting their just desserts in a story, the wimpiest kid getting a moment of awesome, that kind of stuff.

And generally, no matter how many there are, I can always go for another light hearted cops and robbers movie, heist thriller, or Robin Hood story (as long as it isn't the Middle Ages is hell and nobody can possibly show any humour or enjoyment ever- looking at you, Ridley...)

 

[Mr Thin]

Love:

The warrior with a code - a person who abides by a strict set of rules or principles, and never deviates, no matter the cost. It doesn't even have to be a good or honorable code; the main thing is that they never break it. Rorschach is a great example.

Hate:

When two characters bang, despite one or more of them being in a relationship, and we're just expected to cheer them on because we know that their love is the true love, and they're not really happy with whatever poor sod they're with now.

What makes these people think they aren't simply another broken-heart-to-be that their partner will leave as soon as they're bored? Movie logic; they're the main characters, so theirs must be the true love.

 

[DoPo]

-your a women?..babies will makes you happy....no objections, they will...

Wait, they don't? That's probably why I can't pick up any chicks, even though I've ducktaped several babies to myself. Yeah, and you women wander why men can't understand you - we don't get a manual, you know!

OT:
-Like-
- dark, preferably horror-y, fantasy set in the present or the future. Urban fantasy and cyberpunk are my favourites.
- not over the top fantasy settings. Or in other words, some underdog stories where not everybody is capable of breaking the city/universe in half with little effort.
- grey and grey/black morality settings. If there is good, it should truly shine, not just be another one out there. While the "evil" would most probably have some rationalization behind it, not just being randomly dickish.

-Dislike-
- Evil being randomly dickish for no reason. Look, that shit applies only to children's shows. Although, I got bored of it quickly when I was a child. Give me an antagonist [http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2012/07/24/25-things-you-should-know-about-antagonists/] not just a "bad guy", thank you very much.
- everybody lives happily ever after. Now, don't get me wrong - I'm not opposed to happy endings, but if there is no tension, I can't really appreciate them. Yeah, the hero would fight and slay the dragon - we get it. You don't even need to kill off friends/family to make the victory significant, just don't make me know everything would be magically all right in the end.
- absolute downer endings. Anybody seen Texhnolyze? SPOILER: the ending made part of my soul rot away and die. It's the first example that comes to mind when I think of downer endings. I don't want that. Now, I'm not opposed to downer endings, either, as long as they have a meaning - die trying to save the world, is worthy, if you ask me. Even if you fail, it's OK (well, I'd prefer a speck of hope, though).

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Like
-Underdog stories
-Good guys winning
-A bit of moral grayness

Dislike
-Overpowered bad guys
-"If you kill him, you will be like him"
-Bad musical numbers
-Style over substance
-Zombies
-Forced romance

...That's all I got for now...

 

[Vault101]

- absolute downer endings. Anybody seen Texhnolyze? SPOILER: the ending made part of my soul rot away and die. It's the first example that comes to mind when I think of downer endings. I don't want that. Now, I'm not opposed to downer endings, either, as long as they have a meaning - die trying to save the world, is worthy, if you ask me. Even if you fail, it's OK (well, I'd prefer a speck of hope, though).

I agree, similar to what I said about "heroic sacrifice"

also related to that is NOT TELLING US ANYTHING/RANDOMNESS

random incomprehensible shit does not make it art....leaving us asking too many questions does not have us walking away in awe...it has us walking away in sadness and frustration..and not the GOOD kind of sadness that wins oscars..the depressing sadness *coughmasseffectcough*

I'm not saying that you can;t have random shit..I actually like random shit if it has some kind of cohenecy, and I'm also not syaing that you can;t leave things open...[b/]but making us care, then slapping us in the face with "no resolution for YOU!" is a dick move[/b]

good exmaples

Spoiler: Black swan..randomness

the ending involvs Nina "dying" at the end of her "perfect" performce..we cant be sure if she "is" actually dying, we can;t be sure of ANYTHING in that movie.

and while her dying is kind of sad, it also fits the overall theme of the movie and ties it all off as an emotional ending...it fits, it makes sense

Spoiler: Portal 2..ambiguity

the portal (and by extension half life) series do kind of keep us in the dark with alot of details...

in the end Chell finally escapses..she walks out into a feild and into an uncertain future...although we dont know what has become of the outside world we know its far enough in the future to be alot of things, we know that chell has escaped and that shes free to do what shes wants...it doesnt give us much..but it gives us what we NEED...that chell is ok and that the future is open....and its enough

 

[Vault101]

Sex scenes just for the sake of having boobs. I like Strike Back (TV program about British special forces) but the third series just had sex scenes for no reason whatsoever. "Hey, we have 5 minutes to fill ..... BOOBS.

yeah but.....[small/]sex scenes are good because then "your not watching porn"[/small]

[quote/]Kid saves the day. It wouldn't happen ..... EVER. [/quote]
their kids movies..its just wish fulfillment XD


[quote/]Animal saves the day. That's less likely than the bloody kid.[/quote]

Babe was awsome though

Love:

When two characters bang, despite one or more of them being in a relationship, and we're just expected to cheer them on because we know that their love is the true love, and they're not really happy with whatever poor sod they're with now.

What makes these people think they aren't simply another broken-heart-to-be that their partner will leave as soon as they're bored? Movie logic; they're the main characters, so theirs must be the true love.

that and they beng because they are possesd by the sex deamon or somthing...no matter what the situation coitus must ensue

also anotherone I forgot to add but GENIULY good romance plotlines..which i admit are rare, The Boys (comic) has one of the best romance's Ive seen in a while..you actually care and want them to end up together

 

[neoontime]

Like
-underdog story
-moral gray area so that the hero isn't appreciated for every selfish decision
Dislike
-anything tropey that comes off cheap for a character as to simply substitute actual character. I tend to stray away from anime because of this. Example: Reason why I only finished half of Durarara
-stories ending with an unclear ending, I might think they have a reason, but it really shows no courage in the writer and simply keeps them from a having a criticized ending because now it can be "interpreted any way"
Overall anything that gets an artist popularity but requires minimal effort really gives me gripe!

 

[DoPo]

- absolute downer endings. Anybody seen Texhnolyze? SPOILER: the ending made part of my soul rot away and die. It's the first example that comes to mind when I think of downer endings. I don't want that. Now, I'm not opposed to downer endings, either, as long as they have a meaning - die trying to save the world, is worthy, if you ask me. Even if you fail, it's OK (well, I'd prefer a speck of hope, though).

I agree, similar to what I said about "heroic sacrifice"

also related to that is NOT TELLING US ANYTHING/RANDOMNESS

random incomprehensible shit does not make it art....leaving us asking too many questions does not have us walking away in awe...it has us walking away in sadness and frustration..and not the GOOD kind of sadness that wins oscars..the depressing sadness *coughmasseffectcough*

I'm not saying that you can;t have random shit..I actually like random shit if it has some kind of cohenecy, and I'm also not syaing that you can;t leave things open...[b/]but making us care, then slapping us in the face with "no resolution for YOU!" is a dick move[/b]

I'm with you on being purposefully vague. Just because I have the example up already - Texhnolyze, again. The first episode has a grand total of about 10-20 seconds of dialogue. Wait, scratch that - 10-20 seconds of lines, not dialogue. For the first, like 5-7 episodes I didn't know what was going on at all as there was no explanation at all. I don't really want to see/play/read/hear stuff that are confusing for the sake of being confusing. If I wanted that, I'd just start on quantum physics or women[footnote]Yeah, I think this joke is old now, Sorry about that.[/footnote]. Now Primer was confusing as hell but in a good way - interpretation and finding what's going on is rewarding. Same thing with the Legacy of Kain series - they are confusing to understand and even explain coherently and thoroughly but the task is 1. possible 2. satisfying.

 

[Blue Jay]

Like:

-Antiheroes
-Underdogs
-The good guy gets the girl in the end
-Handheld cam movies if done well
-Zombies

Dislike

-Nerdy/ugly guy getting the girl (see Superbad and any teen movie ever)

 

[Vegosiux]

Favorite cliche of mine?

The gleefully snickering, mustache-twirling cartoon villain. Bonus points if he does other cliche'd stuff like tying the distressed-damsel-of-of-the-week to a railroad track, saying "I have you now, my pretty" and responding to the inevitable failure of his plans with something pretentious like "Curses!" or "Blast!"

One of the worst cliches in existance, indeed, but it's so ridiculously over the top it crosses the line right into "So bad, it's good" territory.

Least favorite cliche of mine?

The jerk jock, the virgin nerd, the sex god nerd, the alpha ***** cheerleader, the "heroic sacrifice" that makes me go "Yup. That guy isn't walking out of this one" 10 minutes into the movie, the red shirt, and related, the family photo of doom, shown on the eve of the battle to end all battles.

If any of the above is done ironically, however, it is all good. I only hate them when they're played straight.

 

[Orks da best]

Like:
Sci-fi, Sci-fi is the best setting, no desputes.

Epic battles, epic battles always tend to be enjoyable, simple as that.

Dislike:
The holy sword, or really any time where a person weilding a sword beats someone with another weapon type. Swords are boring after awhile, why not axes? Maces? Giant armoured gloves? Warhammers? Anything other than swords...

The happy ending where everyone lived, even though that had a death scene or charged into unsurviable battles.

The good guys winning all the time. Now its all the time, but it common enough to annoying, more so if the bad guys are better (speaking from a point of how fun or enjoyable they are to watch, or read.) than the good guys, or the good buys come off as egotistical, annoying, or just plain overall jerks.

And thats all I can think off the top of my head.

 

[DoPo]

Swords are boring after awhile, why not axes?

Yeah, you'd say that wouldn't you

What, getting jealous because you're not up to the latest fashion?

 

[The Wykydtron]

Ok, I am way too fond of the standard Tsundere character archetype. Seriously you could stick the most cookie cutter one dimensional tsundere character in front of me i'll still be all " KYAAAA KAWAII DESU!"

*ahem* Sorry. That just slipped out.

As for dislikes, the mighty warrior guy wearing a fridge and a big sword. /Yawn

Things where the devs decided to exploit the fact that human beings in general don't like seeing children in danger because genetics. O hai David Cage! That's some weighty water you've got there. Hope you don't mishandle it horrib-Oh look you've gone and spilled it all over yourself. Silly man.

There has only been one and only one instance of me actually liking a child character in her own right. (instead of merely tolerating one.)

 

[TheRussian]

Like:
Ski-masked goons
Private Military Contractors (if done well)
Over-the-top cheesy one-liners
Dislike:
Everyone hating the protagonist for a misunderstanding
The kid saving the day
Awkward exposition

I think that's all for now...

 

[Patrick Buck]

I like underdogs, Zombies, Moral greys, the bad guy's winning, and symbols, if done right, so subtle enough not to notice them the first time you watch something, then afterwards you're like OMG THAT'S AWESOME. Same with subtle forshadowing.

I Dislike Situational comedys, embaressing moments, and when the plot and story just ends with a plot device so clearly pulled from an arse at the last minute, someone forgot to clean it up first and it leave the whole show smelling of poo at the end.

Deus Ex Machinas I think they're called, if we're being all "Technical".

 

[Jolly Co-operator]

Like:

When the protagonist is forced learn to master his/her powers from a villain.

The "badass/wise" old man (Gandolf, Thom Merrilin, etc.)

Dislike:

The "wacky" character (Pretty much any character played by Zoey Deschanel would be a fitting example)

Winning with the "power of friendship" (Fuck you Digimon, I didn't even like that when I was a kid! Curse you for luring me in with badass monsters!)