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Weaver

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Holy shit, did anyone see this tweet from FUN?

https://twitter.com/FUNCreators/status/434840642494025728

They shopped the email, into... I don't even know.
My brain fucking stopped working.
This has to be some kind of farce. Maybe the company was hacked, maybe it's run by a sociopathic 14 year old.

Whatever it is, between this and the flappy bird guy turning down enough money to not have to work another day in his life, this has been a fucking weird two weeks in gaming news.
 

waj9876

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Weaver said:
Holy shit, did anyone see this tweet from FUN?

https://twitter.com/FUNCreators/status/434840642494025728

They shopped the email, into... I don't even know.
My brain fucking stopped working.
This has to be some kind of farce. Maybe the company was hacked, maybe it's run by a sociopathic 14 year old.
That's...how...how are they that...why?...

They're just fucking with us at this point. They have to be.

But they can't be, because that would be even more fucking stupid. They have actual stakes in the success of the game they made. So how can they just...

Am I dreaming? This can't possibly be real. This is way too surreal.
 

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TopazFusion said:
Maybe they think that if they keep digging their hole, they'll eventually pop out the other side of the world.
Those brilliant bastards! Their site does say they're "temporarily in Amman, Jordan". If they get the proper angle on the hole they could come out wherever they wanted!
 

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TheKasp said:
2xDouble said:
This is not a legit claim. FUN had already responded via Twitter to TB's lambasting of their game, and were quite amicable about the whole thing; embarrassed a bit, understandably, but amicable. Both TB and FUN have stated through discussions on Twitter that this was not an action by the company, but an individual claiming to be an employee.
You are really days behind there.

TB posted a letter from Fun where they pretty much said that they don't give a fuck and are 'bigger' than him. Shortly after he posted it they accused him of faking it to which he replied with a video directly from his email account.

Now they sent him pretty much a threat letter and forbid him to make it public. He made it public.

Fun did make the claim.

Letter one [http://imgur.com/47f4jt6]
Video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NqXWgqtx1M]
Letter two [http://imgur.com/w1iLIhi]
Likely. I can't be arsed to actually use Twitter, even for this.

Still, I find it difficult to believe that professional game developers - professional anything, really, with dedicated public relations people and everything - could behave in such a manner... without also being Phil Fish. I admit sometimes people behave pretty stupidly, but deliberately provoking one of, if not the only video game critic with legitimate legal certification and experience, not to mention has very recently set legal precedent in his favor for exactly this kind of situation, is "needing immediate and drastic medical attention" levels of stupidity.

As TB suspected earlier, this mess feels a lot like an elaborate hoax by some jackass who gained access to the company email account and twitter feed. Whether weaponizing TB and the Polaris network's legal muscle to execute an amateur developer whose only crime was publishing a well-intentioned, but otherwise pathetic excuse for a game as their first attempt, or simply for his/her own "lulz", the motivations remain to be seen. On the other hand, as I said previously, sometimes people really are that stupid... and I pray the ambulances get there in time to stop the bleeding.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3R8tkvlAlk
That's pretty much my reaction to this. These guys are idiots and should be treated as such....
 

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I saw both of TB's videos and to be honest even if he'd uploaded them minus his personal commentary I still would have come away with the same thoughts: the game looks, plays and sounds like arse. In all honestly all TB had to actually do was audibly point out the obvious.

These so-called FUN Creators created a horrible game that any idiot can see is god-awful. Even a positively reviewed version of game would make it look bad if it included any amount of video footage. What an absolute joke.

Now we wait for this post to receive a "takedown notice" too :p
 

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I cannot... I, I, I... WTF?!

For a second I thought that this was simply another stupid company that thought it could abuse the system and not get torched but then it looked like a bunch of juvenile shit-heads who had a moment of brain-fart followed up with bone-headed temper-tantrums.

Now... Now this story has gotten so bizarre that I cannot begin to guess what the end result will be or who was responsible however, however I will be mighty pleased to see the offending party get a good'ol fashioned beatdown from our mighty Biscuit.

P.S. Who the hell is this PressFartToContinue guy that he not only appears on most of my subscriptions but now appears on unlisted videos, shit?! 0_0
 

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TheBelgianGuy said:
Ugh, the worst thing that'll come out of this is TB getting money and continuing his boring shtick.

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.
Well.. thing here is, most videos that he puts up have an annotation that links to the actual gameplay section of the video whilst he's digging around in the options menu. Hearthstone drafts have a similar skip option built right into the video. Some of us rather like having the full information available as we're not likely to get an indepth view of those sorts of things without buying a copy ourselves.

Gotta say, I saw the takedown coming even before I finished watching the original critique. The kinds of people who would ship a game that pathetic are exactly the type who would also try and step up to a legal battle for little provocation; in a word, morons. I don't buy their line that it's just a single individual for the simple fact that it went on for so long. Coming to a full realization of just who and what their - and I really hate to use the term as I don't think it fully applies to the people involved - "legal team" is going to have to deal with is more likely.



I suppose at this point, though, when one's head is lodged so firmly up their own excretory tract, it certainly helps to have a map.
 

IrenIvy

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By the way, this is how the video looks like now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8YRafUfCY
I wonder how Fun Creators can deny their involvement and claim their benevolence if Youtube itself shows they did issue this copyright strike?
"WTF Is... - Gui..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by FUN Creators. "
 

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TheBelgianGuy said:
Ugh, the worst thing that'll come out of this is TB getting money and continuing his boring shtick.

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.
You are absolutely right, fully informing people of the product they might buy makes for absolutely horrid comedy.
But it's pretty important when trying to inform people about the product they might buy.

And if it isn't yet clear enough, that WTF series is not a comedy show.
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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Well... That's PR suicide right there.


"Remove all your tweets and delete your channel."


This is going to be a fun journey. Buckle up FUN, reality has arrived.
 

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thewatergamer said:
Lolz I remember when TB Said I'd love to see them try doing a Copyright claim on my video...

Oooo they are so dead...
It's quite surprising there is one isn't it, I'd say it's almost suspicious.
 

aelreth

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Didn't TB gain between 50k-100k Subscribers shortly following the Gary's Mod Incident?
 

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Why is everyone blaming FUN? This is Youtube's fault. And its not TB's channel we should be worried about, his following is big enough that even if he leaves YouTube for another video hosting channel, he will be fine. What about all the other small channels that get sniped by such companies thanks to Youtube?
 

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Skin said:
Why is everyone blaming FUN? This is Youtube's fault. And its not TB's channel we should be worried about, his following is big enough that even if he leaves YouTube for another video hosting channel, he will be fine. What about all the other small channels that get sniped by such companies thanks to Youtube?
Because this isn't an automated take down, this is FUN targeting his videos and issuing a takedown themselves.
 

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Skin said:
Why is everyone blaming FUN? This is Youtube's fault. And its not TB's channel we should be worried about, his following is big enough that even if he leaves YouTube for another video hosting channel, he will be fine. What about all the other small channels that get sniped by such companies thanks to Youtube?
FUN (or whoever is using their email and twitter) has been blatantly threatening TB and accusing him of conspiring against them and forgery. Youtube is merely allowing them to act on the videos, and while not innocent (for allowing this obvious breach of fair use), it's not the juicy core of what makes this so pathetic. We've had cases of the over-reactive Youtube copyright bots before, and the companies who are most understanding will apologize and try to sort things out by removing the claim manually. If this was really an accident then FUN could've removed the claim without any drama. Whether or not this started on Youtube's end, FUN is certainly to blame for it's actions over twitter and email. Read what they've said. They've been acting like brats.

And it doesn't matter if this is happening to smaller or bigger Youtubers. It's a matter of right and wrong, not the person who is being affected by it. If people are willing to attack one of the biggest gaming personalities on the internet, then the smaller fish would be easy to bully. The one constellation with it happening to TB is that he DOES have a lot of followers and the issue would be more visible. Not to mention he would (ideally) have a bigger influence on change in Youtube because he attracts so much traffic and therefore more ad revenue to the site.
 

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TheBelgianGuy said:
Ugh, the worst thing that'll come out of this is TB getting money and continuing his boring shtick.

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.
you can always skip that part, he provides a link
 

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Im actually not surprised this happened with youtubes automatic claims processing. Im going to be a voice of dissent though even though I usually watch TBs videos. From my point of view I watched the guise of the wolf video and TB tore it to shreds. However as I was watching the video I didnt think it was really that bad. Im not, nor will I ever be a graphics guy so I wont shy away from a game that looks bad (hell my favorite game is X-com enemy unknown (1993) so graphics dont mean a thing to me as long as theres good gameplay and/or an interesting story).

The stealth system was laughable but so is just about every games stealth mechanics. So what else was really bad about the game...um, nothing that I recall from the video. I have not bought the game and have no plans to, however I really do feel like TB was harder on the game then he really needed to be and I kept not understanding why. His criticisms, to me, didnt match up with much of what was shown in his video. Guise of the wolf, based on my limited video watching was not Gary's incident in awfulness and yet it seemed like he hammered it harder then Gary's incident.

Perhaps you need to watch the streamed videos to really get how bad Guise is but the one video I watched didnt tell me that the game was bad. It just said "this game is not for me"

That said, FUN is dead wrong for taking down the video. Any company that would censor criticism does not, nor will it ever, deserve consumers money. Even if their game turned out to be a diamond in excrement their actions have forever steered me away from them. I will always look at them with suspicion and distrust
 

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TopazFusion said:
Weaver said:
Holy shit, did anyone see this tweet from FUN?

https://twitter.com/FUNCreators/status/434840642494025728

They shopped the email, into... I don't even know.
My brain fucking stopped working.
This has to be some kind of farce. Maybe the company was hacked, maybe it's run by a sociopathic 14 year old.
What the...
I don't even.

Maybe they think that if they keep digging their hole, they'll eventually pop out the other side of the world.
That has to be fake... it has to be... well LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!!!!
Seriously this has to be a stunt, its like their baiting TB.
Welp they asked for it.
 

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TheBelgianGuy said:
Ugh, the worst thing that'll come out of this is TB getting money and continuing his boring shtick.

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.

Its not supposed to be entertaining, its informative. He looks at a game, he tells you why its bad. This is called an, explanation and sometimes it may take some time to discuss it. Or alternatively you can... oh I dunno not watch video's that makes you cringe...
Anyway if you noticed he has more of a sense of humour now, rather dry jokes that I find funny.

Double post... derp.