TotalBiscuit Takedown Notice

[laggyteabag]

Like TB or not, he sure does carry a lot of weight on YouTube, and when one of his videos get taken down, he makes sure that people notice it. Hopefully some good can come of this, and maybe some day YouTube will make it a lot harder for occurrences like this to happen whenever a company gets butt-hurt from some critique.

 

[Sunrider]

https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/434775923490295809

It just keeps getting better!

 

[Roxas1359]

https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/434775923490295809

It just keeps getting better!

"Our company is a lot smaller than your little channel."
So...they must obviously not know that Polaris is involved, Polaris also being largely owned by Time Warner Cable, and Time Warner Cable being one of the largest services in the United States and what might be bought by Comcast (let's hope not), who are one of the largest ISP companies in the United States...yeah this is gonna be great.

 

[00slash00]

So their options were get a little bad publicity and have a hurdle to overcome with their future games, or get all the bad publicity by developing a reputation of silencing any opinions they don't like, and never develop games again. Well, I guess they made their choice.

I'd like to hear TB comment about this but I can't really see it being its own video. I mean, what could he say abput this that he didn't already say about the Garry's Incident thing? Maybe it could be in a Content Patch or something

 

[thewatergamer]

Lolz I remember when TB Said I'd love to see them try doing a Copyright claim on my video...

Oooo they are so dead...

 

[DapperStache]

Having read the second letter I'am finding it hard to believe people are actually that crazy to write and send something like that. Though as previous posters here have mentioned there doesn't seem to be any evidence that FUN isn't behind all this, other than accusing TB of lying, which if anything just makes them look more guilty here.

 

[fix-the-spade]

but i do believe only certain people should be allowed to " review" games not every tom, dick and harry with a camera ( i'm not saying that's what total biscuit is).

The law would disagree with you there. If only 'certain people' get to do reviews, who decides what the 'certain people' are? Some kind of licensing body? Who funds it? You can bet your ass that in that kind of scenario the answer to who decides would rapidly become the publishers decide.

What you propose is a system where voicing an opinion on a product becomes illegal without some kind of license to do so, which these guys would no doubt love, but you might not when you get banned from forums or fined for having the temerity to post a review.

As it is the law protects all reviews of products, whether it's Totalbiscuit or some drunk guy. The alternative is every website being like EGM and giving Colonial Marines a 9 out of 10.

 

[TheBelgianGuy]

Ugh, the worst thing that'll come out of this is TB getting money and continuing his boring shtick.

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.

 

[Loop Stricken]

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.

Mm, yes. Gods forbid a PC-centric games reviewer actually reviews games centred around things PC gamers want.

 

[Vivi22]

Another development.

TB tells Fun creators to direct further communication via his lawyer.
Fun creators now want to talk via email with trusted people carbon copied in to confirm the validity of emails.
https://twitter.com/FUNCreators/statuses/434785536096489472

Suddenly Fun Creators are backing down when they realise this isn't play time anymore this is serious time.

At some point it has to set in that they have no case and he will legally eviscerate them if he actually takes it to court.

Him refusing to talk further and telling them to speak to his lawyer from here on is the equivalent of him telling them to bend over because they're about to take something up the ass.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Having read the second letter I'am finding it hard to believe people are actually that crazy to write and send something like that.

Small dev team, gets a game out, has a guy who 'knows legal stuff' think they're god. Also, Fun Creators are based in Jordan, so there might be a cultural gap going on too, although I doubt it.

It's quite funny about the whole we're bigger than you thing, TB works for Polaris (aka The Game Studio), which is a subsidiary of Maker Studios, which control over a thousand Youtube channels, consistently comes in the top three most watched networks on Youtube and has income in the tens of millions of dollars per year. All things considered, in the event of lawyers being deployed my money is on TotalBiscuit.

The public climb down after making a very direct threat is hilarious.

We said we'll sue him if he doesn't shut up.

He says to direct all further communication via his lawyer

Wait... he has A LAWYER?! Like a real one?!

Oh shit!

 

[mike1921]

Ugh, the worst thing that'll come out of this is TB getting money and continuing his boring shtick.

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.

Why does everything have to be entertainment first? The point of the series is to inform the consumer, it's not like he's showing the option screen because he finds them hilarious.

 

[IrenIvy]

Total Biscuit saved me $15 and a lot of frustration. His preferences are different from mine and sometimes he drags too much on this or that point, but his videos are still both interesting to listen to and - more importantly - informative enough for me to see how this or that game handles a stuff I'm interesting in. 'Fun' Games made a game that would be no fun and waste of money for me if I'd to buy it, uninformed of its numerous weaknesses. And judging from the way 'Fun' Games handle unhappy reviews, they'd censor whatever I'd have to say about it. From my point TB did me a service with this review. I'd like to see both the review and research stream video entirely restored so other people will be able to have some basics for informed decisions as well. So yes, go Total Biscuit.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Ugh, the worst thing that'll come out of this is TB getting money and continuing his boring shtick.

At least Yathzee is actually funny. I cringe whenever TB starts showing a game and spend 20min in the options screen.

Err, that because Yahtzee likes to quote: 'nitpick like an amphetamine fuelled chimp' and and whose entire shtick is to rag on a game while providing jokes.

TB on the other hand provides first impressions and is centred on PC gaming, where the ability to say adjust the FOV of a game or rebindable keys is far more important to the viewerbase than a penis metaphor.

 

[shintakie10]

So, now FC are asking TB to delete all his tweets and take down his entire youtube channel, otherwise they'll get their lawyers involved.

[tweet t=https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/434775923490295809]

http://i.imgur.com/w1iLIhi.png

Yeahhh, I can't see him bowing to these demands.

It's funny because they're still stickin to the TB fabricated everythin line. Even went as far as to edit their own email in the most dickish way possible.

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

Their install base is 23 players, they are going to destroy themselves in the debacle.

 

[duchaked]

yeah...FUN is really just hurting themselves worse by this. TB could literally re-release a critique but replace all visuals with crude MS paint drawings as a sardonic statement loll (at least that's what I'd do)

tho seriously this is another poor showing by devs, but then again the whole YouTube flagging and copyright system is a broken mess :/

 

[JCAll]

Ya know, TB's "This is so awful, you should never play it" review was the only thing making me actually consider buying this. If only to watch the train wreck. But now they're just being jerks, so screw them.

 

[Weaver]

"Our company is a lot bigger than your little youtube channel".
He doesn't realize how big Maker Studios is, which TB said is now handling the legal processes.
They're around 500 employees on their campus with tens of millions in investor capital, primarily from Time Warner.

These guys are so fucked, I can't wait to see it happen.
Not that it would really take a good lawyer to beat them down as they've purposely laid mountains of evidence to their wrongdoing. Hell, I'm pretty sure I could win against them in court at this point in time.

*popcorn*

 

[IceStar100]

"Our company is a lot bigger than your little youtube channel".
He doesn't realize how big Maker Studios is, which TB said is now handling the legal processes.
They're around 500 employees on their campus with tens of millions in investor capital, primarily from Time Warner.

These guys are so fucked, I can't wait to see it happen.
Not that it would really take a good lawyer to beat them down as they've purposely laid mountains of evidence to their wrongdoing. Hell, I'm pretty sure I could win against them in court at this point in time.

*popcorn*

At this point I'm pretty sure you could die half way in and still win. At this point it's not if it's going to hurt buy how badly.