Trailers: Warhammer 40k: Space Marine - "Blockbuster" Developer Dairy
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the really weird thing is that this isnt a new dev house or anything, this is relic studios, they make kick ass rts games, they arnt blizzard, who seems to want to make bad movies instead of bad game plotsSouthpawFencer said:
Instead of making me want to buy a game with "retailer exclusive pre-order bonuses" my thought patten now goes like this:Mygaffer said:
"Which bonus do I choose? F### it wait for Steam sale."
People who want to make movies should be making movies, not games. 'Cinematic' is often a euphemism for' just shoot a few dudes so we can play another cutscene, damn it'.
There's nothing wrong with making a cinematic game, but game designers need to have their priorities straight. If the player's input consists entirely of playing out a script, you have just wasted up to millions of dollars making the wrong kind of entertainment
There's nothing wrong with making a cinematic game, but game designers need to have their priorities straight. If the player's input consists entirely of playing out a script, you have just wasted up to millions of dollars making the wrong kind of entertainment
Finally! A game in space where the people with british accents aren't just the bad guys. Then again the bad guys can be pretty cool.
Never played Warhammer, or a Warhammer video game, but I'll be damned if that's stopping me from getting excited for this game!
They sound like they wanted to do the Ultramarines movie. Considering how awesome Relic's cinematics are, I'd rather they'd have done it.Stiffkittin said:
Either you're the worst troll ever. Or you're really that sadly misinformed. Either way, I just lost a ton of faith in humanity.Zeetchmen said:
OT: Relic hasn't led me astray before, and this just looks like Dawn of War: Up Close and Personal!
Play DoW+xpacks or DoWII+xpacks, I feel like that will give you a pretty good idea of what they're talking about in this trailer, interview...thing.Saxnot said:
NO! Just fucking NO!!!
I don't want my games to be playable movies. Fuck that. Fuck you for not respecting your own medium dipshit. I don't want a playable movie. I want a game. An interactive form of media where story and gameplay merge seamlessly.
I want the next Half Life, I don't want a lame ass railroad. Cause that's what a playable movie is. A playable movie is Call Of Juarez: The Cartel. Where your expected to do everything by the fucking script, where you go from cutscene to cutscene by gunning down X amount of enemies.
All right now to watch past the first 31 seconds...can you believe something that pisses me off this much crops up when the video barely starts.
All right it is Relic games. They made some awesome 40k games and of course CoH, fuck that series was awesome. They probably won't screw this up because it seems they genuinely love 40k and are competent developers, but Matthew Burger needs to be punched, hard.
Cinematic is just another word for linear. We have seen it in Enslaved, we saw it in Uncharted, we saw it in Medal of Honour. We even saw it in probably the worst shooter of 2011 Homefront, where Korea deployed special doors that could not be opened on your own and such amazing linearity that when you snipped a target before an NPC called it out they would STILL give you an order to shoot that target.
Screw Cinematic gaming. I don't want a "movie I can play". I want a game. If you make a good game you can have the player follow a completely linear path without them ever feeling like there a hand pushing them in the back. When you make a bad game that follows a linear path you call it cinematic.
I don't want my games to be playable movies. Fuck that. Fuck you for not respecting your own medium dipshit. I don't want a playable movie. I want a game. An interactive form of media where story and gameplay merge seamlessly.
I want the next Half Life, I don't want a lame ass railroad. Cause that's what a playable movie is. A playable movie is Call Of Juarez: The Cartel. Where your expected to do everything by the fucking script, where you go from cutscene to cutscene by gunning down X amount of enemies.
All right now to watch past the first 31 seconds...can you believe something that pisses me off this much crops up when the video barely starts.
All right it is Relic games. They made some awesome 40k games and of course CoH, fuck that series was awesome. They probably won't screw this up because it seems they genuinely love 40k and are competent developers, but Matthew Burger needs to be punched, hard.
Cinematic is just another word for linear. We have seen it in Enslaved, we saw it in Uncharted, we saw it in Medal of Honour. We even saw it in probably the worst shooter of 2011 Homefront, where Korea deployed special doors that could not be opened on your own and such amazing linearity that when you snipped a target before an NPC called it out they would STILL give you an order to shoot that target.
Screw Cinematic gaming. I don't want a "movie I can play". I want a game. If you make a good game you can have the player follow a completely linear path without them ever feeling like there a hand pushing them in the back. When you make a bad game that follows a linear path you call it cinematic.
Relic makes none, PlasticWax makes them. If you're talking about the cutscenes from Dawn of War 2, then I somewhat agree.Soviet Heavy said:
You got all that from one video with very little real gameplay? Protip:Look at real game-play. Yeah it somewhat gives the wrong message but that isn't an excuse to be ignorant.1337mokro said:
I really hope you're not judging this game based on this video.The_ModeRazor said:
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME
Which is a shame, I really liked Dawn of War II and Chaos Rising (haven't played the first games)
Seriously, it's gonna suck hard. Bland, boring gameplay, environments completely uninteresting (and WH 40k has some interesting ones... being a fuck-ass huge galaxy and all) Of course, using the lamest Spess Mehreen chapter don't help none. (Ultramarines... blegh, so Suetastic... besides, isn't Relic making the game? I thought they managed to canonify the Blud Rehvens)
Just putting this out there so that when it comes out and the 'scapist review goes up and everyone agrees how shitty it is, I can point at this here comment and say "called it!" .
Which is a shame, I really liked Dawn of War II and Chaos Rising (haven't played the first games)
Seriously, it's gonna suck hard. Bland, boring gameplay, environments completely uninteresting (and WH 40k has some interesting ones... being a fuck-ass huge galaxy and all) Of course, using the lamest Spess Mehreen chapter don't help none. (Ultramarines... blegh, so Suetastic... besides, isn't Relic making the game? I thought they managed to canonify the Blud Rehvens)
Just putting this out there so that when it comes out and the 'scapist review goes up and everyone agrees how shitty it is, I can point at this here comment and say "called it!" .
Get off that bandwagon boy, the Ultramarines are not Mary Sues. Calgar is the Mary Sue. The internet has completely blown their poster boy status out of the water for no reason.The_ModeRazor said:
They are no more 'suetastic' than any of the other Imperial MAHREENS.
0.oZeetchmen said:
I get annoyed as hell when people make that assumption, The Warhammer 40K IP was around in the 80's, where as Starcraft was released in the late 90's. In fact, one could say that Starcraft is the clone here.
That bolter didn't sound like an automatic rocket launcher.
I want to be excited about this game, but I can already see some bad things.
I want to be excited about this game, but I can already see some bad things.