Trailers: XCOM - Gameplay Trailer

[The3rdEye]

2k, can't you just tape over the name and write "Alien Shooter '62" on the box instead. That's apparently all it takes to shut the fanboys up.

Erm sorry, I mean:
Another franchise ruined forever! Boycott 2k for raping our memories! Raping, I say, raaaaaping!

In other words:
Fans being unhappy, news at eleven!

People are not unhappy because they changed something, they are unhappy because they changed so much that there's no real connection between what they are presenting and the game that they are "updating".

Fallout 3 had major changes compared to Fallout 2, but they still had the same set pieces (zombies, rad scorps, mutants, vault boy), environmental setting, familiar companion systems and a general Mad Max feel. The enemies of the original Xcom games are absent, and the original environment (as someone else has said) of taking place on an incredibly brutal worldwide battlefield with an immense squad of soldiers is scaled down with safety measures like regening health, revives and limiting you to a 3 man squad.

The main point here is that if they are confident that their game is of high quality and a "contemporary" title, why do they need to directly associate with such an old series when their game bares so little resemblance to it.

They've got husks, they've got the power wheel, they've got the galaxy map as a map of the USA, all of which already make it more recognizable as connected to the Mass Effect series than the Xcom franchise.

That's the issue, not that they've changed something.

TLR- If I really like apples, don't give me a tasty orange and spend the rest of the day trying to tell me it's really an apple.

I don't get you people you seem to be forgetting that the x-com name is not worth Jack at this point...

That reasoning makes 2K's decision to name it Xcom even MORE confusing. We're just people are the internet, they're a multi-million dollar company and THEY'RE the ones sinking big money into the Xcom name.

...what with only one good game out of five to its name so why do you people act like this is new and that you have been betrayed just now because interceptor and avenger would like a word with you

First, 3/5 games were good. Or 2 were good and 1 was OK depending on your opinion of Apocalypse. It was also Microprose' baby in the first place so if they wanted to run it into the ground while filling the monthly reports with slams on Microsoft, they're free to do so, it doesn't change that they did something awesome. I'd say the same for 2K but this license just didn't belong to them in the first place and there's no reason for the name except as a crutch made of nostalgia.

 

[Booze Zombie]

As much as I lament not being able to play a glorious HD version of the original XCOM, I must admit this doesn't actually look all that bad. I just hope they touch up the talking animations on that lady, she seemed a bit off...

My point still stands. A game that has a tremendous amount of potential is going to fail because it's not true to the original source material

Maybe, maybe not. If it's a good game in its own right then it'll do well, if it was just trying to cash in on a name then it's gonna fail hard, because that name means something different from what they're offering.

 

[bbad89]

Dream news:
This just in!
2k has renamed the current X-COM reboot, titled XCOM, to something entirely different!
In addition to that, 2k has just announced an HD remake of the original X-COM game, with enhanced AI, full 3d graphics, and an option to switch between 3d and 2d modes to allow people without top-of-the-line equipment to still play!
Also, a brand new coop campaign mode has been announced for the remake!
And then everyone who sees potential in this shooter can buy that, and fans of the original can play a remade HD version, in both 3d modes and "classic" 2d modes at the touch of a button! (similar to civilization V)
Who's unhappy? Nobody!

 

[Comrade Mateo]

Yeah yeah yeah it's not XCOM. Surprise surprise.

On the actual merits of this walkthrough; I wasn't expecting this. The game oozes Mass Effect, which is fine, honestly, it looks great. But I was thinking, from the trailers, it would be more of a survival horror. Just the Aliens themselves aren't at all what I wanted...from all the black mist I assumed they'd be shapeless creatures, and the whole gratuitous gore aspect supports that survival horror ideology. Nonetheless, this looks great; I'll pick it up for sure.

 

[Blind Sight]

Still not a huge fan of this being called X-Com (it makes no goddamn sense, especially in the universe canon, as X-Com emerged as an international venture in 1999, and no secret 60s American version was ever mentioned), but I'll hold out on calling it bad or good until it comes out. What I will call it is misleading and probably dishonest. It doesn't feel like X-Com at all, they've gutted out anything they've considered 'overwhelming'(which was exactly what made X-Com X-Com...the complexity and customization you were offered). It's quite clear that it's a cash-in title, as if they were trying to distance themselves from the original they wouldn't do the annoying remake title. However, from the gameplay I've seen it at least looks interesting (but then again, this is 2k Marin, and after Bioshock 2 I trust them a lot less). Honestly, they could have marketed this as an original IP and saved themselves a lot of rage.

Also, if they're going for the 1960s setting, they've really got to do better research. The narrator goes on and on about social and cultural shifts occurring in America at that time, but a woman as X-Com's chief? In the 1960s? Really, really stretching it 2k.

 

[Liquid Paradox]

hmm... judging by the comment's, it would appear that I would have to have never played the previous xcom games in order to enjoy this one. What I saw, fankly, looked fun, and that's all I really care about. Will I preorder? heck no. will I play? probably.

 

[KillerMort]

i've never played X-com so i don't think i have much of a "it's not X-com" bias in the opinion. but what i got from this is that it's a sci fi shooter that is based in the 60's with many elements from Mass effect and pokemon. And for some reason i really like this combo . is it unoriginal i wouldn't say that it isn't a carbon copy of mass effect it has better team tactics that are more than, the rock paper scissors ability use, and the capturing is an incredibly awesome feature that i really like. They have better tech let's use, perfect logic.

 

[instantbenz]

Hm... chest-high walls and brothers in arms style squad crap. No thanks. Detective work yay, boring gun battles between chest high walls boo.

 

[RAVENBOI22]

Looks more like resistance FoM to me... That had more of the " you're fucked no matter what" feel to it.

 

[Summerstorm]

Eh... i am a big X-Com fan {At least of the 2, maybe three first ones *g*} and i also like first-person rpg games.

But this:
1. Cover based blahblah
2. Too much action, not enough suspense
3. Regenerating health... REALLY?

Might be okay-ish though. {If the basestuff / planning / interaction etc. can make the game atmospheric and challenging}

 

[ChildofGallifrey]

I'm not a fan of the original X-Com games, but the 'strategy vision' and the use of time units really rub me the wrong way. It strikes me as the laziest, most ham-handed attempt to try and force a connection where there is none.

 

[winter2]

Heh.. I can't say I'm totally sold on the health bars and I'm not so sure about that "overwhelming choice" comment he made either.

Overall, my judgement is meh! followed with a dismissive wave of my hand.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Lets say we want to reboot Quake but as a child I had trouble with aiming and always felt like it was too fast pace so we are going to go for a strategic element with you managing battle arenas from a top down perspective. You can add in item spawn points and have NPCs pay admission into your battle arenas and play. You can set up concession stands to sell snacks and research new more exciting power ups to make your battle arenas more fun. You got to hire staff to clean up the battle arenas and do repairs when item spawns and jump pads start to wear down. The weapons you can expect to add to your battle arena are pistols, shotguns, sniper rifles, assault rifles, grenades, and a missile launcher. We are going to call it "QUAKE"

Instead of naming it something like "Battle Arena Tycoon" they go use the name Quake when it has basically nothing to do with FPS. That is whats happening with this "XCOM" reboot as it has nothing to do with the lore or gameplay of the original. Its disrespectful to slap the name of a computer game classic like X-Com on a game that really doesn't even try to come close to the original.
In unrelated news I think 2K is planning to revive the Master of Orion series as a racing game where you race space buggies on the planet Orion. They secretly will be inspired by the physics of Mass Effect's Mako driving segments.

Edit: spell check changed my mako into make >:|

Well, they kind of already have done that.

Go look up Quake 4.

 

[kebab4you]

It still pisses me off that they are calling it XCOM, It sure as hell isn't. We know it, you know it, so why not change the name?! What idiot is going to buy this game because it is wearing the title "XCOM"?!

X-COM didn't even fucking exist in the 60's T.T"

 

[busters]

This looks great and I'll definitely play it, but like everyone said... it's not X-Com at all.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

The indie "Xenonauts" game looks like a much better X-com sequel, and that's just a few guys in london, not an enire 2K development team. Actually Xenonauts basically IS an X-com sequel, I just hope the lawyers don't get to that game before I do...

 

[Chadling]

A perfectly generic squad-based FPS that just happens to rape the good name of one of the best strategy series of all time.

Not buying. I just think less of 2K for this travesty.

 

[Chaos Marine]

Still not X-Com. I really wish they'd stop. Or at least die in a fire. Oh yes, they played the original X-Com? They really must have hated and despised it like the KKK hate non-white races.

No no, you aren't getting the full graveness of the situation, they hate the original X-Com the way the Nazis hate jews. This new game is equal to the holocaust of the 21st century and we, the X-Com fans are its victims.

"They came first for the Fallout Fans
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Fallout Fan
Then they came for the Far Cry Fans
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Far Cry Fan
Then they came for the Prince of Persia Fans
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Prince of Persia Fan
Then they came for the Alone in the Dark Fans
and I didn't speak up because I was a Silent Hill Fan
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Nazis? I invoke Godwin's law. Fallout 3 was actually a good game by the way, sure it was glitchy but what Bethesda game isn't to some extent? The others, yes, I didn't care because the Prince of Persia died a long time ago to me, never cared about Alone in the Dark or Silent Hill.