Tribes: Ascend Review
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Hitscan weapons are of varying power, and often suffer from severe fall-off (reduced damage over range). The eagle and sparrow pistols are both extremely weak. The nova colt does good damage, but needing to reload every six rounds weakens it considerably. The shotguns can consistently get at least some damage (they're, like, 50 HP per pellet) in at short range, but are useless beyond that, and slow weapon swap speeds without the Quick Draw perk make even their situational use tricky. The sniper rifles do relatively little damage compared to other games, but they're the only scoped hitscan weapon in the game, and there is very little in the way of cover. Bad snipers are useless, great snipers are godly.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
But yeah, there is some truth to the "you/your opponents are just bad" bit.
On generators (from the perspective of the flag heavy): defend them to the death on Sunstar; that forcefield is worth two men all on its own. On other maps the generator's relevance is fairly minor. My deployable forcefields get wrecked pretty quickly on most maps, so the main thing I get out of the generator is warnings from turrets and the sensor, which... y'know, hand, but not essential. I like having it on Arx 'cause I can block side-to-sides with one well-protected forcefield, but I can still do my job without it. Above-ground tech turrets placed in good spots (that is, not right by the flag 'cause they'll just get blown to hell) can be surprisingly helpful when I'm getting overwhelmed.
EDIT: Oh, and then there's Raindance, where a few jugs can hold off the entire enemy team indefinitely in the generator room. Great place to hold the flag during standoffs, but I wouldn't be surprised if the designer added another entrance.
EDIT: Oh, and then there's Raindance, where a few jugs can hold off the entire enemy team indefinitely in the generator room. Great place to hold the flag during standoffs, but I wouldn't be surprised if the designer added another entrance.
But... but... but SHAZBOT! is the answer to everything.Sonicron said:
my friends which don't play the game give me the "da fuq is wrong with you" look when I yell SHAZBOT! after I own them in a game (be it DotA or TF2).
A couple of points: Holding down space and jetpacking up inclines is not going fast. When compared to the speed of a spinfuser assisted run, that's walking pace. Compared to an impact nitron boosted pathfinder, that's standing still. You really just GOTTO GO FAST.Zhukov said:
Maps aren't particularly large in T:A. Well, obviously they're large, but considering you're zipping about them at Sanic the Edgehog speeds... It's just hard to complain about large empty maps when you can get from one edge to the other in about fifteen seconds.
That said, chasing an enemy flagcarrier is probably the hardest thing you can do in the game. It's also immensely satisfying to hear an enemy PTH yell [VGS] when you nail him with an impact nitron when he's speeding off at 200 kph. Few people in pubs have the skill to pull these things off. Luckily, on most maps a solid flag defence prevents this from really happening.
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Justin enjoys the sneaky back-stabber...why am I not surprised.
Good review, I might just pick this up thanks to this.
Good review, I might just pick this up thanks to this.
God do I hate the Jackal. As the review it was pretty good. Just wondering how did you do that melee attack? I haven't seen that one before.
Yes, the Pathfinder is the one who wins the game, but it's everyone else's job to make it as easy as possible for them to do this.poiumty said:
Those Techs might not be able to chase and take down your capper, but if 4 of them are in the gen room, that's 4 people who aren't repeatedly dumping light turrets on the stand. This means that the Pathfinder takes less damage when picking up the flag so chasers have to do more damage to kill him.
It's all very simple logic. Less players actively defending the flag means less people in the way of your team capping. I don't know how you don't understand this. I'm not saying everyone should be running for the gen, that's ridiculous and goes completely counter to what I said about Player-Advantage.
Em, none of the guns in the game do 5hp per hit is what he meant. He's wrong with the rifle cause it's 500-300 and generally speaking always 300 when it counts. Try hitting a target 400m away with a projectile rifle three times? never mind the fact that the UT engine can't actually handle a non-hitscan rifle.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
The shotguns wouldn't be any different if they weren't hitscan of course, the Nova colt is terrible overall compared to the autoshotty so who cares and the eagle pistol is useful only for tapping the remaining few hundred hp off a close range target so you don't need to fusor them again, especially in MA.
The hitscans in the game are currently balanced just fine, but I think I tend to do far too well with the chaingun, N4J, Falcon and TCN4.
Unrelated: 120 fov is best, turn on weapon damage if it's off, lower the freakin shazbot volume and make sure you set the inversion of your shrike to your preference.
I'm not really sure why it ~should~ compete with TF2 as others have pointed out. TF2 mostly has pretty linear maps (particularly in payload and other attack/defence type maps), is much more horizontal in its nature except for a few classes and maps aside, and really is a totally different beast from TF2. If we really want to compare it because it has classes and team based gameplay you might as well compare Tribes Ascend to Battlefield 3, which would probably be more apt since both also have large maps and options for (near) flying experiences and high speed travel.ResonanceSD said:
Long story short, they're different enough games that they'll have their own target audiences and people who do happen to enjoy both fill find the games different enough that one doesn't displace the other from their playlist.
Just to add to the "omigod generator disco room"-discussion here: blowing up the generator is useful. Having your whole team working solely on blowing up the generator, isn't. Playing as a JUG/RDR, the two main options I have is taking out deployables outside the base by doing strafing runs as RDR or by firing my manly cluster bomb cannon as JUG, or I can get into their base and blow up the generator. The latter gives me lots and lots of points if I blow it up, and those classes are good at indoor combat as well. Blowing up a player deployable doesn't give me anything, not even the money I'd get for doing damage to a player. If I hit a player I get money, of course, but I still don't get that schweet delicious bonus I get from gener-hating.
Doing both of these things are useful for the team, but one of them has a great pay-off while the other has no built-in pay-off at all. You should either get damage money for deployables or have a class-specific accolade that lets classes that are good at taking out deployables(that is, JUG/RDR) get rewarded for doing just that.
Also? Hitscans sort of suck in this game. The sniper rifles are the only unarguably good hitscan weapons, but they're hard to use in a game where anyone either can take six shots before they fall over, or move so fast that it's really hard to hit them either way. Shotguns are situational and close-range only, pistols are good for finishing people off. Projectile weapons generally do most things better, and they're more satisfying to use. Plus, as a former Unreal player, I actually find them easier to use than the hitscans as well
Doing both of these things are useful for the team, but one of them has a great pay-off while the other has no built-in pay-off at all. You should either get damage money for deployables or have a class-specific accolade that lets classes that are good at taking out deployables(that is, JUG/RDR) get rewarded for doing just that.
Also? Hitscans sort of suck in this game. The sniper rifles are the only unarguably good hitscan weapons, but they're hard to use in a game where anyone either can take six shots before they fall over, or move so fast that it's really hard to hit them either way. Shotguns are situational and close-range only, pistols are good for finishing people off. Projectile weapons generally do most things better, and they're more satisfying to use. Plus, as a former Unreal player, I actually find them easier to use than the hitscans as well
Then they should have made the game a 30$ purchase. Yes, they have to make money, but it would be nice if they could do so in a way that didn't require them to unbalance the game.[/quote]
Unlocking is actually very easy Ive found..they offer a free 250 gold right off the bat if you simply like their facebook page. So I bought myself the infiltrator, bought 2 weapon upgrades and 2 armor upgrades and Ive only played it for a few hours. Ive actually found the classes really well balanced that I have so far, and while everything is a bit expensive money to gold wise, it doesnt seem to be that hard to get xp.
Like I made about 1k XP every round, and played about 4-5 rounds in the past few hours to unwind. If you get better and if your team wins and youve been contributing, I can see it being pretty easy to unlock stuff you want.
Downloaded it today and am actually really enjoying it. Ive been looking for a game to draw me away from Counterstrike Source and replace it as my standard play fps. Just having a game that makes camping near impossible, a stealth class that can go invisible and a steep difficulty curve is just perfect for me. Many thanks my fine sir.
Unlocking is actually very easy Ive found..they offer a free 250 gold right off the bat if you simply like their facebook page. So I bought myself the infiltrator, bought 2 weapon upgrades and 2 armor upgrades and Ive only played it for a few hours. Ive actually found the classes really well balanced that I have so far, and while everything is a bit expensive money to gold wise, it doesnt seem to be that hard to get xp.
Like I made about 1k XP every round, and played about 4-5 rounds in the past few hours to unwind. If you get better and if your team wins and youve been contributing, I can see it being pretty easy to unlock stuff you want.
Just a straight up thankyou from me for the reviewSlycne said:
Downloaded it today and am actually really enjoying it. Ive been looking for a game to draw me away from Counterstrike Source and replace it as my standard play fps. Just having a game that makes camping near impossible, a stealth class that can go invisible and a steep difficulty curve is just perfect for me. Many thanks my fine sir.
That's been an issue ever since Open Beta, the influx of players caused problems. They're looking into it. There's a thread on their forums if you feel like contributing your info.Abedeus said: