Its kind of a waste of time that isn't worth putting much more effort into than a meme.Right, and..?
Who do any of us get the opportunity to vote for? Who winds up on a ballot, who gets bought out, who has the money to actually campaign, who does the the Democratic Party not even let into the race? Superdelegates were a thing until this election. To assume we have real power over who does and does not get elected is as farcical as saying the Roman citizenry decided who Consul was.How did the Politicians who failed us get into the position to fail us?
I think Biden will do a worse job trying to kill me and him winning with a wide margin will avoid civil war. I’ve said this before (this being why I plan to vote for Biden despite living in a Blue state). I just think you guys are terrible at arguing and rely on entirely faulty logic.There is pretty much no point in trying to actually argue with you since you are extremely biased against everything. You are one of those voters who has decided both sides are bad and will not be swayed by any type of argument so why should I bother... Actually, what would make you decide to vote for one side or the other? And don't say them going socialist.
Similar but replace memes with a reference to medicinal pedophilia.Its kind of a waste of time that isn't worth putting much more effort into than a meme.
Acknowledging that there are racists causing problems there =\= everyone is a racist. I never said all the people were racist, I said SOME of the people are racist and those people were online calling for the very violence that is now happening there. The people trying to stand up to it is what I would expect them to do. You mistook me wanting to talk about the very real problem of racists infiltrating the police there and wanting to inflict harm upon the people there as meaning EVERYONE there is a racist and that is just absurd. " the people" is a mixed bag. Some of the people who are racists are causing problems for everyone else who is not. Trusting in " the people" I would hope means only the people who are not being racist assholes, because as much as we don't like racist assholes they are still part of " the people", so are the racist cops I wanted to take about before but you would have none of it.You... fucking four months of people getting brutalized in the streets, fucking doing something about this, you wanna call the people the fucking racists while you sit at home telling people to vote!!! I am proud of these people, proud of my state for fighting this shit, for not giving up while our leadership abandons them. Of the people who volunteered in the hundreds, thousands, to help their communities during a massive natural disaster. Your one fucking description for goddamn all of them was “racist. Our mayor, our governor, every fucking authority is limp wristed bullshit. Letting proud boys come in from across the country with guns but brutalizing actual Oregonians every goddamn night. But the people, them I trust. You think the solution is better authority, how? Fucking how? How do I get Kate Brown to stop federally deputizing cops so they can beat people more? How do make the Dems stop treating the city of Portland as a fucking holding cell for the leftists they don’t like, placating them on occasion and brutalizing them on a whim? Fucking decades of people organizing, voting, in a deep blue region of a blue state. Kate Brown’s supposed to be one of the most left-wing governors in the fucking country, but what does it fucking matter? You wanna know why I hate the Dems so goddamn much? It’s because they hated me first. They hate every fucking person dumb enough to vote for them. I’m just hating them back, though I’ve sadly not learned well enough to stop voting.
You wanna say one more fucking cross word about the people of this state, the regular human beings that do the real business of keeping it moving while our politicians plunder it, go right the fuck ahead and do it, but know you’re just another liberal so divorced from any human motivation and condition that you may as well live on another goddamn planet if you do. Your analysis of reality, that some people are just evil and wrong and voting is our only way out, it is contradictory and disgusting. The natural conclusion of your Liberal metaphysics of Original Sin isn’t even remotely democratic, and it’s no society I’d live in. It’s the fascism you profess to fight. This hell is built with your sentiments.
When you repeat things so many times and they still fail to sink in and people still keep posting crap and insisting disinformation is true, what else is left really?Its kind of a waste of time that isn't worth putting much more effort into than a meme.
We get to vote for who we go through the trouble to enable us to vote for. It sucks that it is this complicated, but it is. Bernie gave us the path and told us what to do.Who do any of us get the opportunity to vote for? Who winds up on a ballot, who gets bought out, who has the money to actually campaign, who does the the Democratic Party not even let into the race? Superdelegates were a thing until this election. To assume we have real power over who does and does not get elected is as farcical as saying the Roman citizenry decided who Consul was.
As far as I can see, you are just unwilling to take good logic, but you are going for the 'lesser of two evils' so whatever.I think Biden will do a worse job trying to kill me and him winning with a wide margin will avoid civil war. I’ve said this before (this being why I plan to vote for Biden despite living in a Blue state). I just think you guys are terrible at arguing and rely on entirely faulty logic.
"Its kind of a waste of time that isn't worth putting much more effort into than a medicinal pedophilia"? I don't get it.Similar but replace memes with a reference to medicinal pedophilia.
That’s not what I said and is also a stupid way of framing politics.As far as I can see, you are just unwilling to take good logic, but you are going for the 'lesser of two evils' so whatever.
It saves time and if you haven't been convinced by others then doing more than this is a waste of my time and effort.That’s not what I said and is also a stupid way of framing politics.
Then if Biden loses you only have yourself to blame.It saves time and if you haven't been convinced by others then doing more than this is a waste of my time and effort.
If trump wins then you only have yourself to blame.Then if Biden loses you only have yourself to blame.
SO it's Worgen's fault we have crazy people who think Trump is god's chosen one for some demented reason? I am literally surrounded by these people and have little to no hope that my district will flip due to these people around me seriously believing this and that Biden will let the protesters burn their neighborhoods to the ground.Then if Biden loses you only have yourself to blame.
How so? I did everything I could to explain how this would turn out, fought to elect a guy who would destroy him, and pushed Biden and the rest to take stances and do work that would’ve prevented his coup. It’s not my purpose or desire to go out and convince people to vote for Biden, I’m here to explain why you’re doing a shitty job at it and try to get people to stop the inevitable fuckery from happening and making all our votes meaningless, which will is more likely to occur because the Dems are doing fuckall to stop it.If trump wins then you only have yourself to blame.
Sounds like you should go out and convince them rather than convince socialists because honestly your arguments mostly push people like me away. Maybe try to convince your neighbors to vote for Trump and they’ll decide not to.SO it's Worgen's fault we have crazy people who think Trump is god's chosen one for some demented reason? I am literally surrounded by these people and have little to no hope that my district will flip due to these people around me seriously believing this and that Biden will let the protesters burn their neighborhoods to the ground.
You think Biden will make the police kill you and they think he will make the protesters kill them. There is no winning here.
Why would my arguments push people who agree with me away? I agree with socialism. That is why I am trying to change the platform. Making everything worse isn't a good argument for people like me who want to make things better. It isn't hard to see what to do when comparing platforms, policies and actions side by side. All anyone has to do is actually look. Somehow that is a bad argument... Listen to what random people say on twitter is somehow better than looking at actual voting records, policies, platforms and actions?Sounds like you should go out and convince them rather than convince socialists because honestly your arguments mostly push people like me away. Maybe try to convince your neighbors to vote for Trump and they’ll decide not to.
Because you are generally on the 'whoever wins we are fucked' train of argument which does a great job of spreading voter apathy. You yourself may vote and I am not saying to ignore the problems of either party, but with how hard you go, I can easily see you having dissuaded people from voting.How so? I did everything I could to explain how this would turn out, fought to elect a guy who would destroy him, and pushed Biden and the rest to take stances and do work that would’ve prevented his coup. It’s not my purpose or desire to go out and convince people to vote for Biden, I’m here to explain why you’re doing a shitty job at it and try to get people to stop the inevitable fuckery from happening and making all our votes meaningless, which will is more likely to occur because the Dems are doing fuckall to stop it.