Turning Vegetarian.

[Julianking93]

I think I'm the only vegetarian Escapist, though I could be wrong.

yes you are wrong,never seen the heated(to put in mildily) agruments on the subject?

Also why do so many people love to eat?I only do it because if I don't I would most likely die and given the choice to have to never eat again I would quite glady say yes.

I have, but I've only seen one other vegetarian on here.

I suppose those agruing for vegetarianism so passionately might not be(that sounds like saracasism,its not)

I hope it isn't.

I honestly only see people who eat meat, yet will still defend vegetarianism here, and only one true veggie

 

[Undeadpope]

I honestly only see people who eat meat, yet will still defend vegetarianism here, and only one true veggie

I am vegetarian I just try not to state it unless asked about it,quorn FTW!

 

[Hippobatman]

Meat is a chemical requirement for the human system. There is no alternative. To have a healthy diet, you must eat meat.

Humans need nutrients like protein, fat, calcium etc. These are easily attained from alternative sources or pills.

This I find stupid. Why go on a diet that doesn't make you healthier, thinner or does ANYTHING except forcing you to take pills? Face it, a lot of vitamins also come from eating meat. Same goes for fats.

Being a vegetarian is dumb. We have teeth to eat both vegetables and meat, we also don't have the enzymes to process grass like cows or sheep do it.

Right, so vegeterians are dumb? Sure we've been omnivorous through all stages of evolution, but how big a deal is the act of survival today? I don't think we need our full arsenal of teeth and whatnot when our easy pickings are at the local grocery store.

Bottom line here is that people can eat whatever they like, because you can always get your proteins from somewhere else. Think about it, if vegeterians fell down dead on the streets, then you'd have a point by saying they're dumb, but that's not the case. Bashing people for their opinions is incredibly childish, and that, good sir, is what you're doing now.

 

[PeeSoup]

I honestly only see people who eat meat, yet will still defend vegetarianism here, and only one true veggie

I am vegetarian I just try not to state it unless asked about it,quorn FTW!

Ditto.

 

[BonsaiK]

what would be a good way to change my diet without getting major cravings or feeling ill; I understand it wont be easy - but what did you do, how did you change your diet, what foods did you eat to help change from a Meat-eater to a vegetarian?

It's actually really easy (I assume we're talking vegetarian, not vegan here). I went vegetarian for years because I had a vegetarian partner and I never craved meat once during the entire time. The people who you hear about who go ill when they quit meat are usually vegans and that's a much more restrictive diet than vegetarianism. My advice:

Protein is important. You don't need meat for this though. Almost all foods have some protein, but foods high in protein include:

* Eggs
* Cheese
* Mushrooms
* Nuts
* Legumes (beans, chickpeas etc)
* Tofu/beancurd (highly underrated by people who've never eaten it or only ever eaten it once - given that it can taste about 50 different ways depending on how you prepare it, you need to eat it at least 50 times before you can judge it)

When making a main meal I usually aim for TWO different non-meat high-protein sources to fill the gap left by meat so I'm not left with cravings afterward. So instead of beef I might put cashews AND egg into a stir-fry. More than one protein source combines in the body slower, making you feel fuller, even if the quantities are the same as the meat you used to eat.

Stay away from pre-made meat substitutes, stuff like "not bacon" etc... yuck. Don't ever go there, those things are full of additives and crap.

The other thing to worry about is iron. Women in particular need to make sure they're getting enough iron, and the best source of iron for non-meat eaters is leafy greens. For guys it's not quite as important (guys only need about half the iron of girls) but you should still try to east something green every day. However, it is also possible to have too much iron so don't go too crazy.

Hopefully that's helpful.

 

[dietpeachsnapple]

Stir-fry steam veggies one night, bean and cheese burritos another night, Ceasar salad the next night, etc.

He can't eat Ceasar, it's made with raw eggs and anchovies.

$10 says I could find a Ceasar dressing without anchovies, and why are eggs out? He said vegetarian, not vegan.

If he is intent upon 'no-eggs' his efforts are to be deeply complicated by the myriad of products that contain eggs.

 

[Spiner909]

Meat is a chemical requirement for the human system. There is no alternative. To have a healthy diet, you must eat meat.

That's not true at all.

 

[Epitome]

Spoiler

Hello fellow Escapees; Up until now I have been a meat-eater; I've drifted along eating like everyone else and not giving a second thought.


A while back I saw ......something...that made me feel a little disgusted and now I feel ill whenever I even think about eating meat.

I'm not one of those pretentious hippies who go on and on about how 'animals are people too' as I understand that animals need meat to function (Are lions ignorant and fat?)

But this has really got to me and I feel really disgusted; So to all the Vegetarian escapists -


what would be a good way to change my diet without getting major cravings or feeling ill; I understand it wont be easy - but what did you do, how did you change your diet, what foods did you eat to help change from a Meat-eater to a vegetarian?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: This is the Video - if it is somehow against the rules - I apologize sincerely.

That lil video is going to make you give up meat? Seriously its a little gross but it shoult stop you from eating meat and definately should not change your lifestyle. It might be gross but the meat you eat is prepared in a sterile and hygenic environment. All the meat you have eaten up until now has been prepared in the exact same fashion and while you were unaware of the procedure you trusted it to provide you with good food. Now you have seen one of the uglier sides of it you change your mind? Why?

 

[ma55ter_fett]

Well if meat is no longer your thing then, whatever.

Personally I will still eat it.

 

[ae86gamer]

Get some cooks books, ask other vegetarians (if you know any), and search the interwebs.

Also, the stuff that came out of the cyst looked like hollandaise sauce.

[sup]Eggs benedict FTW! XD[/sup]

 

[inflamessoilwork]

I've worked with a butcher a few times at my work, it just doesn't seem to gross me out.

 

[THAC0]

Try and find some good veggie recepies, there are a lot of them around.

Oh, and never try to find an alternative to meat (e.g. fake meat). They pretty much always suck and make you miss the real thing.

I eat fake meat all the time and it really doesn't bother me. I didn't start eating it right after becoming a vegetarian however, so really didn't associate meat with food anymore by the time i started eating it. Some of them are pretty good, and a few restaurants even serve them on the menu. If you are curious, i would suggest Garden Burgers since it is really nothing like a beef burger and isn't really an attempt to simulate the taste of meat.

On the other hand, i have a friend who is also a vegetarian and she is supper sensitive to the texture of the food, and if it gets too close to real meat, it really grosses her out.

 

[Acaroid]

I think I'm the only vegetarian Escapist, though I could be wrong.

OT, I usually just eat proteins that are in beans, cheese and peanuts. I don't ever have a craving for meat because...well,I've never had it.

You shouldn't feel ill just from being a veggie by the way. Just eat like you normally would, but when you would normally eat meat, replace it with a different source of protein. That's what I do and I'm perfectly healthy.

Also Tofu is a great meat replacer because its made for just that, a meat replacement.

If you have any other questions, PM me if you want.

Well im sure the 100's of vegi debate threads would see your arnt the only one lol

anyway I can give you piles of tips about changing your diet, im a bit of a nut when it comes to that stuff.

Also im anti-dairy so if you want to take that step, pm me if you wish

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

Just eat some bacon and forget these silly ideas. bacon makes everything better.

Exactly. Bacon with Nutella is weird, but I recommend you try it at least once.

However, OT here, tofu is a pretty good substitute for your meat portions during meals. I'm not vegetarian, but I used tofu semi frequently when I lived in Tokyo for a while because it was easier to store without freezing, plus it worked a little better in a dish I liked to cook.

 

[Abedeus]

Meat is a chemical requirement for the human system. There is no alternative. To have a healthy diet, you must eat meat.

Humans need nutrients like protein, fat, calcium etc. These are easily attained from alternative sources or pills.

This I find stupid. Why go on a diet that doesn't make you healthier, thinner or does ANYTHING except forcing you to take pills? Face it, a lot of vitamins also come from eating meat. Same goes for fats.

Being a vegetarian is dumb. We have teeth to eat both vegetables and meat, we also don't have the enzymes to process grass like cows or sheep do it.

Right, so vegeterians are dumb? Sure we've been omnivorous through all stages of evolution, but how big a deal is the act of survival today? I don't think we need our full arsenal of teeth and whatnot when our easy pickings are at the local grocery store.

Bottom line here is that people can eat whatever they like, because you can always get your proteins from somewhere else. Think about it, if vegeterians fell down dead on the streets, then you'd have a point by saying they're dumb, but that's not the case. Bashing people for their opinions is incredibly childish, and that, good sir, is what you're doing now.

Too bad that some vegetarians are idiots, and for instance they make their children eat only vegetables. Children as young as 1-2 year olds.

 

[Hippobatman]

Right, so vegeterians are dumb? Sure we've been omnivorous through all stages of evolution, but how big a deal is the act of survival today? I don't think we need our full arsenal of teeth and whatnot when our easy pickings are at the local grocery store.

Bottom line here is that people can eat whatever they like, because you can always get your proteins from somewhere else. Think about it, if vegeterians fell down dead on the streets, then you'd have a point by saying they're dumb, but that's not the case. Bashing people for their opinions is incredibly childish, and that, good sir, is what you're doing now.

Too bad that some vegetarians are idiots, and for instance they make their children eat only vegetables. Children as young as 1-2 year olds.

I don't see any problems with that as long as they're careful about giving them enough nutritious food. Meat is merely a medium where some nutrients are stored. These are found in other food sources as well.

And don'r single out groups like that. There are plenty of idiots in the meat eating community too.

 

[Abedeus]

Right, so vegeterians are dumb? Sure we've been omnivorous through all stages of evolution, but how big a deal is the act of survival today? I don't think we need our full arsenal of teeth and whatnot when our easy pickings are at the local grocery store.

Bottom line here is that people can eat whatever they like, because you can always get your proteins from somewhere else. Think about it, if vegeterians fell down dead on the streets, then you'd have a point by saying they're dumb, but that's not the case. Bashing people for their opinions is incredibly childish, and that, good sir, is what you're doing now.

Too bad that some vegetarians are idiots, and for instance they make their children eat only vegetables. Children as young as 1-2 year olds.

I don't see any problems with that as long as they're careful about giving them enough nutritious food. Meat is merely a medium where some nutrients are stored. These are found in other food sources as well.

No, actually, small children NEED meat. Especially when they start growing. You can't shove pills down their throats. Don't you watch House?

And don'r single out groups like that. There are plenty of idiots in the meat eating community too.

Maybe because there are more meat eating people. Logically, if there were more vegetable-eating people, the human race would've long evolved into grass-eaters. Hardly an evolution, considering that grass-eaters can't survive on meat... And omnivores need both, too.

 

[Xanian]

Stir-fry steam veggies one night, bean and cheese burritos another night, Ceasar salad the next night, etc.

He can't eat Ceasar, it's made with raw eggs and anchovies.

$10 says I could find a Ceasar dressing without anchovies, and why are eggs out? He said vegetarian, not vegan.


If he is intent upon 'no-eggs' his efforts are to be deeply complicated by the myriad of products that contain eggs.

You can replace the anchovies with nori...but it's not particularly "ceasary." The only substitute I've found was Annie's...which tastes kinda like mayonnaise.

 

[dietpeachsnapple]

Stir-fry steam veggies one night, bean and cheese burritos another night, Ceasar salad the next night, etc.

He can't eat Ceasar, it's made with raw eggs and anchovies.

$10 says I could find a Ceasar dressing without anchovies, and why are eggs out? He said vegetarian, not vegan.


If he is intent upon 'no-eggs' his efforts are to be deeply complicated by the myriad of products that contain eggs.

You can replace the anchovies with nori...but it's not particularly "ceasary." The only substitute I've found was Annie's...which tastes kinda like mayonnaise.

Hmm, I haven't tried that brand, but I will take your word for it. Salads, in general, are available to our new vegetarian friend, but it seemed somewhat trite to offer something so simplistic and obvious as an option.

That said - mac and cheese, macaroni salad, garlic three cheese alfredo over fettuccine and mushrooms, and any number of normal sandwiches without the meat (e.g. a whole wheat wrap, with pepperjack cheese, lettuce, tomato, onion, green/red peppers, and diced cucumber, with ranch dressing. Heat in the microwave for 45-60 seconds depending on your power setting.)

 

[Hippobatman]

Snipety-snip

No, I don't watch House, sorry. I've seen a couple episodes, though, and it's usually good fun. However, I can't be bothered to sit down at an exact period of time each day to follow a series. I need the DVD set. I'm a bit strange like that.

Anyway, I'd love some scientific mumbo jumbo here, because I am far, far from any kind of nutrition expert. I base my points on my own logic and encounters with vegetarian families, to whom I can't see any sort of health issues. I'm willing to agree that a varied diet might be healthier for small children, but the way I see it is that people are free to use that illusion of free will to decide their own diet, as long as they're not trying to campaign their way of life onto me. Calling them idiots for eating differently than the norm is rediculous, though.