Cyfu said:
RazadaMk2 said:
Cyfu said:
RazadaMk2 said:
Cyfu said:
1) so, I am an atheist and I want to convince religious people that their view is wrong. I want to crush their views so that they realize how wrong they are. Am i a bad person?
2) so I love the show "whose line is it anyway" but I can't buy it in any stores in Norway. I tried looking sites where i could order the seasons online, but they are locked to a region. I think it's locked to USA or something.
anyways, hypothetically could I Pirate the seasons with a clean conscience?
I DO NOT PIRATE ANYTHING!! IT'S JUST A QUESTION!! (gotta watch out for the banhammer)
For question one:
Yeah, it makes you a bad person. It shows your inability to accept other people for the way they are and just get on with your life. You have no right to convert them just like they have no right to convert you. Seriously. Religious intolerance is just fucking dumb. What other people believe should have no affect on the way you live. Sure, if it genuinely DOES affect your life in a NEGATIVE way then perhaps you should speak up about it.
But that aint the case, you just want to "Crush their views so that they realize how wrong they are". Which in many ways makes you worse than an evangelical christian who knocks on your door and tries to convert you. I mean, They are trying to bring something new into your life which they genuinely think will make your life a happier one. You just want to make people miserable and take away their beliefs.
And god, I really want to point something out. But... Seriously, I think it would get me the banhammer. But you know what? I will point it out anyway.
Pretty sure Breivik wanted to "Crush" religious views. Well, those that are not Christian, anyway. Just saying, being openly religiously intolerant whilst simultaneously being Norweigen? Man, you are aligning yourself with him in my eyes.
Not that you are evil and whatnot.
But he wants a Norway without religious tolerance, without cultural tolerance. And you state outright that you wish you could crush peoples religious views.
Question two:
Piracy is piracy. Then again, property is theft (Go go socialist argument). So do as you wish.
FINALLY:
In my eyes the thing that makes you a really bad person is not your religious intolerance. Its not your consideration of Piracy. Tis your utter inability to remember to capitalize your I's. Its not hard.
Dude I don't care about anything bad you say about me, but comparing me with Breivik is too fucking far. And read the fucking post. I am not doing this. I haven't done this once. Not once and you're comparing me with the guy who did the most cruel thing in modern Norwegian history? Really? Get some perspective.
And names should always have capital letters. Breivik. Capital B. It's not hard.
I just react when I see atheists doing exactly the same things they hate religious people for doing. Oh, and I am ever so sorry for assuming you practice what you preach. Although I can still dislike you for it. A pedo can state that they WANT to sleep with children but people will still react with hatred, despite the distinction that they wont, they just WANT to.
Oh, and I did clarify that I am in no way stating you are evil. Just that you should perhaps give your views a long hard think. Because, I hate to be the one that points it out, you and Breivik share at least that view. You are BOTH religiously intolerant. Now, I am in no way stating (As I have said) That I think you are evil. Nor do I think you are going to shoot a bunch of innocent people simply for their religious views.
However, I am stating that both you and Breivik are religiously intolerant. Because both you and Breivik are religiously intolerant. If you hate me for pointing that out, get over yourself. You are 17. Grow up and realise that religion cannot hurt you.
But whilst you still want to (Even if you dont do anything about it) "Crush" peoples religious beliefs, well, you will REMAIN uncomfortably close to the man you so hate. It is your choice of wording I am attempting to call you out on. You WILL have a tangible link (Religious/cultural intolerance) with Breivik until the point of time where you GET OVER YOUR INTOLERANCE.
That is not my fault. Hell, you can get as angry as you like. It truly will change nothing. So... Too far? Not really. Accurate.
Welcome to the internet. Tis a hateful place.
Filled with people who will hate you.
If you are a dick.
What you need to understand is that, me a teenager who wants to get the people in my school who claims that evolution is JUST A THEORY. I just want to make people understand that getting 2 of every species on an ark is impossible and that splitting the red sea is bullshit.
what Breivik wanted was to abolish Islam and immigrants from the middle-east. According to him Europe have had a secret war with the middle-east. so he wants to get them the hell out of our country which is why he attacked that summer camp. the camp was for the political party that was OK with immigration.
and Breivik is Christian. and very much so. he wants Norway to go back to it's old ways and be a very christian country.
Your use of the word "Crush" is what caused this entire issue.
If you had stated, for example, "I find religion to be a bit ridiculous and I disagree with the whole blind faith aspect of the entire fiasco" then I would have had no issue with you. But you used the word crush.
Indicating you want religion abolished. That cultural differences do not sit well with you. That you want Mecca to just be another city, the Vatican to fade into non-existence, all of the mosques/churches throughout the middle east and north africa to be burned. You want to "Crush" all of the differences that make humanity and society so very interesting. In my eyes that is no different from a man who wants to end multiculutralism within a single state.
Your methodology currently differs but, well, a man who wants to "Crush" religion at the age of 17 might want to do something more about it after a decade.
That is why I am being such a prick. Because of your choice of words. You did not state that youre issue was an intellectual one, you did not state that you take issue with the blind faith of some christians. You stated that you secretly (Because you do nothing about it) harbour an urge to CRUSH all religious faiths. That, in my eyes, Makes you an asshole.
Finally! (Because it is past midnight and this is circular, you are a child who fails to see the power of words) strictly speaking Evolution is a theory. There is no such thing as absolute fact. Let it be noted I am not disagreeing with the theory. But claiming that it is not a theory is as retarded as the people who claim that it is JUST a theory. It shows up your inability to understand the nature of science. As for your other two statements attempting to show just how retarded christianity is, here are two knowledge bombs for you.
1) The majority of what is in the Bible is similar to what is in any of the other religious texts. It is metaphor and allegory, not to be taken seriously.
2) There are scientific explanations for why the Red Sea could have plausably been at a low enough level to walk across. Now, I can aggree with you that it is rather unlikely this was due to the workings of a religious figure, but it is still possible (And therefore, not neccesarily bullshit) that this would have been the case.
Oh, and on one final note?
It would be very easy to argue that Breivik is not Christian whatsoever. Thou Shalt Not Kill. Much like there are muslim religious figures who point out that a suicide bombing is against Allah, along with the killing of women and children, and that a Jihad is a personal struggle not a military struggle (Neccesarily) there are plenty of moderate Christians who would point out that Breivik is not Christian by any stretch of the imagination. Also, I would argue his actions were more politically motivated than religiously motivated, he is agaisnt multiculturalism (Even briefly declaring that he did not accept the court as it was in a multicultural country) not Islam (neccesarily, I am being rather pedantic here, I will admit). He chose to attack a political camp that furthered the aims of multiculturalism, not a mosque. In his insane ramblings he has never stated that he wished to shoot any Muslims. Just kidnap and behead political leaders and the like.
In short?
Nothing you have said so far has changed my opinion that you are a child using words you do not fully comprehend. Nothing you have said so far has changed my opinion that you, like Breivik, are against multiculturalism, for only one who hated the differences between cultures would express a wish to "Crush" all religious faiths. I find the arguments you have made to be weak at best and faintly dangerous at worse.
Good day to you, Ser.