Ubisoft Kills Ghost Recon: Future Soldier on PC

[Wolfram23]

This is the industry that charged $60 for a 30 second Atari game. How in the hell do you say a game with 70,000 times the playing length and several trillion times the content should be worth less than that?

They did find a happy medium - $60. The price should be around $110. And for games like Skyrim, $230.

Or, you know, the Atari game should have cost $5.

PS: I'm fairly sure you're being sarcastic, but I felt I needed to reply in case you're actually that stupid. Hard to tell sometimes.

But OutrageousEmu is right - £50 is a happy medium.

A large pizza costs about £12 and lasts maybe an hour. A decent meal can cost £40/£50 and lasts a couple of hours. Even a game like Portal 2 provides dozens of hours of entertainment for £50 - the same as four pizzas. Something like CoD or Skyrim can provide hundreds of hours of entertainment. Thats pretty good value to me.

Because clearly pizza is charged to us based on how long it takes us to eat, not on how much ingredients and labour and overhead cost to make it...

You could probably build a very simplistic Flash game that has infinite length (random generating dungeons for example) in a matter of days... doesn't mean it should be worth more than five cents.

Do you think CoD MW3 took anywhere near as long or as much money to make as Battlefield 3 or Skyrim? No fucking way. Plus it sells a shit ton more overall, which means they should actually charge a hell of a lot less! Instead they jack their profit margin through the roof. Good for business? Yep! Good for consumers? No!

EDIT: Also $60 isn't a happy medium, it's just the most they can possibly charge without everyone instantly throwing a shit fit. There are savy consumers out there, however, who do not bother to pay that full price for a short or mediocre game, and then devs like this go and try to blame an entire consumer market for poor sales and, on top of blame, call the entire market a bunch of thieves. Like, what, nobody's ever bought a knock off at Walmart to save a buck?

 

[xxcloud417xx]

lmao, "95% of them [pc gamers] will just pirate it anyway", says Ubisoft, the same day I was playing pirated Assassin's Creed games on my cousin's unlocked PS3.

Oh yeah, and did you know guys, 95% of statistics are made up on the spot, and about 94.9% of people will believe them even more if they contain decimals.

 

[ObsidianJones_v1legacy]

To be honest guys, its not like this hasn't come out of nowhere. Almost every game is pirated constantly. Hell, with some older games, the only people who actually now get it is by pirating it. This isn't Ubisoft being just dicks. I mean sure, they overreacted, but they do have a legitamate reason. Take this as a lesson. PC people (and I am included in this), BUY GAMES, DONT PIRATE. You are ruining the market more than Call of Duty or Madden ever will.

I would love for us to be able to allow developers (perfectly within our control) to see our purchases or Steam or Amazon. I perfectly do buy video games. I pirated nothing. Since a good deal of you use steam also, I'm guessing the same applies for you.

You know what this is? It's sadly the Media Spin we got in the late 90's early 2000's. With Political bodies and parents up in arms, they blamed all the trouble and grades and crashing morality on the games and music making us depraved. We backed out games and our developers saying "for every one Columbine, you have literally Billions of people not shooting up a school after playing Doom". We stood as one. We stood victorious again and again.

Now that pirating and DRM have become the hot topic today, along with the idea that not many people buying as many games for entertainment any more (I would like to say a few things about that 'Double Dip Recession' 'Not even able to find basic retail jobs any more' 'for some reason, the cost of living has gone up everywhere'), the Developers are now switching camps and blaming gamers again for all their woes.

You know, if you want me to take up another hobby you're going the right way, developers. This didn't work in Elementary School. When the teacher punished the class, oh sure, we were a little ticked at Ricky because he made us miss Recess. But who were we more upset with? The teacher who decided to punish us to prove a lesson. I don't know about you guys, but the lesson I learned at those times is stand with those equal to you against those who think they have authority.

Because news flash game developers, Artists, and even politicians... you're only in business as long as we as a section of the demographic likes you.

 

[Calamity]

As part of this so called 5% allow me to say: Screw you UBI.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

Huh. It is official. I'm never buying an Ubisoft game again on any platform.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Call me again when Ubisoft actually puts some effort into their games.

 

[teebeeohh]

yeah and when the sales of revelations on PC are gonna suck they will blame pirates, not themselves because they antagonized PC gamers in the weeks leading up to it.

well, if ubisoft treats me like a pirate i will treat them like cheap fucks and will borrow the games from a friend (who bought them used) for my ps3.

 

[Flac00]

BUY GAMES, DONT PIRATE. You are ruining the market more than Call of Duty or Madden ever will.

Since the piracy affects mostly those titles, by your logic piracy is actually helping gaming because it is attacking the "annual release" strategy.

To be honest guys, its not like this hasn't come out of nowhere. Almost every game is pirated constantly. Hell, with some older games, the only people who actually now get it is by pirating it. This isn't Ubisoft being just dicks. I mean sure, they overreacted, but they do have a legitamate reason. Take this as a lesson.

Yes it did come out of nowhere. He has no justification to back those statements up. And neither do you, how is it a legitimate reason when people still buy physical games or from services such as Steam? Gaming is still making money.


Hell yeah, I took this as a lesson. I have a urge to pirate that game for my brother's 360. it's not like consoles can't have pirates or selling for the console crowd will grant you millions of sales.






I think that the only way to kill PC gaming with piracy is when you become able to pirate hardware.

Gaming may still be making money, but for those developers, the fact that people are stealing their stuff is what offends them. This kinda proves that they don't just do this for the money, the fact that they fight pirating is for principal, not for financial reasons. These guys are kinda like artists in their own way, very protecting and supportive of their own work, if people take it away without their acknowledgement, they get pissed.
Plus, of coarse he has ways of backing up those statements, as do I. People always pirate, and in pretty large amounts. The PC market is the focus of this pirating as it is both easier, and the community on the PC is usually technologically more literate. People rarely pirate on the consoles, and if they do, it is usually at the risk of screwing up their console. Most won't take that risk, and the others that would just don't know how.
Look, PC gaming will never die, thats a fact. But it isn't being helped by pirates.


PS: about it being helpful to the industry to pirate COD and Madden. Its not. 1: Pirating is wrong NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, its stealing, stealing is wrong, ect. 2: If sales go down from COD and Madden a significant amount from pirating, their coarse of action will have nothing to do with annual releases and have everything to do with eliminating pirates. Pirates would then hurt the community even more because companies will have to take even more extreme action to combat pirating.

 

[xxcloud417xx]

Call me again when Ubisoft actually puts some effort into their games.

Call me again when Ubisoft actually puts effort in it's bullshit excuses.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

Oh, I guess that's why I dislike Ubisoft games. They're made by morons. Cool.

 

[natster43]

I enjoy that Ubisoft is overreacting to pirating so much. "People won't stop pirating games on PC so we will just stop making them games!" I can't wait for them to find out about used games sales.

 

[the spud]

Fuck you, Ubisoft. Your treating your customers like shit, and you can rot. It may be a while before I buy another Ubisoft product.

 

[Jaeger_CDN]

Let me just say that 95% of the time I can pull a random number out of my ass and call it a statistic and be correct 9 times out of 10 as well.

There has only been a couple IPs from Ubi that I really marginally cared for and if they want to run off in a hissy fit because they think the nasty pirates (AKA legit customers) are being mean to them, then so be it. Their actions in the past couple years have shown that they really don't care about PC anyways since it detracts from their shovelware production in the consoles.

Bye bye Ubi, look me up when you grow up

 

[Amnestic]

yeah and when the sales of revelations on PC are gonna suck they will blame pirates, not themselves because they antagonized PC gamers in the weeks leading up to it.

Not to mention that they seem to have deliberately staggered AC:R's PC release compared to the console version. Just over two weeks of difference according to wikipedia. Even if they sold well, the PC version is naturally going to have hindered sales simply because people who really want to get the game will buy it when it comes out earliest, which is on consoles.

 

[Jake Lewis Clayton]

Far Cry, Rainbow Six, Driver, Heroes of Might and Magic, Prince of Persia and Brothers in Arms comes to mind... Other than that i can't remember any game that's worth to be mentioned...

Games I've left quoted havn't been worth mentioning in the last 5 years.

may aswell mention titles from the 90s.

 

[robert01]

Man holy shit are these guys off their rockers or what! Fuck I don't play 99% of Ubisoft games because I'll be honest, I don't really consider them to be any good. My placement of them in the world of publishers is the same area as say a steaming pile of shit. At least EA has the ability to make semi half decent games before it fucks you over.

Well Ubisoft, I would offer you a shovel, but alas you seem content using your hands.

EDT: To add, the only reason pirating on PC is so rampant is because it is easy to do. If console systems had the same ease(say like Dreamcast) than pirating would be a problem on them too(just like Dreamcast).

So Ubisoft: If you don't want people to pirate your games, stop making shitty games, and stick to a DRM that people generally tolerate like Steamworks. Valve seems to do pretty well with their games, and so do must developers that use Steamworks DRM.

 

[The Rascal King]

Man, it must be hard to be PC elitist when 3 games come out for it every year.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Come to think of it, this all makes sense now! Their DRM was a success! Since we're all pirates and it locked us out of the game anyways. Mission accomplished!

 

[Slayer_2]

Or they could just release the game the normal way, DRM free and see if that works. Guess what Ubisoft, if you didn't shove so much crap down our throats people might be able to not only play your game, but lose the frustration of trying to get it to start up in the first place. DRM is like a mall cop who goes out of the way to piss of real customers, then ignores actual thieves.

 

[shadowform]

Now, I don't like to make sweeping generalizations. Saying, "All pirates would be legitimate customers if Ubisoft didn't use shitbox DRM" is as broad of a generalization as "All PC gamers are pirates". But I can say this, knowing for absolute surety that it is 100% factual:

But I can say that the only reason that I haven't played any Ubisoft titles, on PC or otherwise, since 2008 was because of their Assassin's Creed DRM. Which is regrettable, because Might & Magic Heroes 6 looks to be fun.