Ubisoft Sees No Profit or Point in Wii U Mature Titles

[Something Amyss]

I think that most people who don't "get" what the controller is for obviously don't own a wii u or have ever even seen one in person. Because I have one and love that I can play most of the games on the controller while my gf watches netflix on the ps3.

And maybe that's why the Wii U isn't moving to other groups. It's also worth noting that it's not really their fault, as Nintendo's supposed to make you want the touchscreen.

"these games sold way more on the other platforms, therefore they are right to stop putting games on nintendo" = "i am right because i refused to buy them while they were on nintendo, therefore this is an inferior console because i said so"

Only if you ignore the former and make up the latter.

 

[COMaestro]

Not to utterly derail the topic here, but it's stuff like that this just proves my point that it was silly for Platinum Games to make any sort of deal with Nintendo because Bayonetta 2 is going to sell a fraction of a percentage of an iota of a scintilla of what the original sold on the 360/PS3. The vast majority of WiiU owners aren't into mature games (not that much of Bayonetta could be called mature with a straight face, and God bless 'em for it), or games that are too challenging. People buy Nintendo consoles because they like Nintendo games. People buy consoles and PCs because they like all other games. It's really just that simple.

yes, it was stupid to make a deal with the only backer that would have funded them while allowing them full creative control and is the sole reason bayonetta 2 exists

they should have just never made the game at all and ended up doing mobile titles or something

It's funny that if it was any other publisher under the sun, everyone would be suspicious as hell and not give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt on anything. We don't know what other publishers said, nor do we know anything about the terms of the deal between Platinum and Nintendo. And even if that's all the case and Ninty is benevolent as could be, Platinum is still going to regret the deal because they're going to sell next to nothing. When their other properties like Scalebound (even on just the XBone) or whatever multiplat game they release next will probably go on to sell a crapton more, they'll realize that what could be their biggest franchise (once other publishers see the sales) is now locked into selling piddly amounts for Ninty. And if they keep losing money, Platinum's well will dry up and then Nintendo will just sit on the rights and refuse to let them get out of their contract.

Bayonetta 2 was either going to be published as a WiiU only title or not exist at all! Period! Platinum has already been paid by Nintendo, or is still receiving payments, so they got their money. They have nothing to be upset about no matter how well or poorly the game sells. The only one running a risk at this point is Nintendo. If it flops, well, then Nintendo will likely not be willing to back any more of Platinum's projects. If it does well, then they will.

 

[AJ_Lethal]

In all fairness, of all the developers who could be porting stuff to the Wii U, Ubisoft are possibly the LEAST important of any of them.

A far greater concern is the recent news from Ono where he said that the Wii U would not be getting USFIV. Seeing as how Nintendo even managed to sour their relationship with their longest friends at Capcom, THAT, is much more worrying than some money-grubbing Frenchmen who don't like the profit margins of developing for the Wii U.

Capcom only has eyes for the 3DS because Monster Hunter. Nothing has changed, pal.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

i just don't buy any of this

nintendo doesn't have third party games: people buy other platforms

nintendo has third party games that other platforms have: people buy other platforms

nintendo has exclusive third party games: people complain that they're holding them hostage and refuse to buy nintendo

everything in this conversation is made up and has no bearing on reality

the only reason the other platforms have those games is because they BOUGHT THEM and they think they can buy you too

apparently they were right

"these games sold way more on the other platforms, therefore they are right to stop putting games on nintendo" = "i am right because i refused to buy them while they were on nintendo, therefore this is an inferior console because i said so"

Well, this is what happens when you have three generations of 3rd parties getting what they want when they wanted it and thus not understanding what "investment" means. So far with this and the 3DS launch, it seems the lesson Nintendo should take away is that they should just abandon 3rd parties and bolster themselves.

 

[xaszatm]

i just don't buy any of this

nintendo doesn't have third party games: people buy other platforms

nintendo has third party games that other platforms have: people buy other platforms

nintendo has exclusive third party games: people complain that they're holding them hostage and refuse to buy nintendo

everything in this conversation is made up and has no bearing on reality

the only reason the other platforms have those games is because they BOUGHT THEM and they think they can buy you too

apparently they were right

"these games sold way more on the other platforms, therefore they are right to stop putting games on nintendo" = "i am right because i refused to buy them while they were on nintendo, therefore this is an inferior console because i said so"

Well, this is what happens when you have three generations of 3rd parties getting what they want when they wanted it and thus not understanding what "investment" means. So far with this and the 3DS launch, it seems the lesson Nintendo should take away is that they should just abandon 3rd parties and bolster themselves.

Western parties, maybe. But Nintendo does seem to have a better relationship with the likes of Sega, Tecmo Koei, Namco, and the like.

 

[GonzoGamer]

This console generation is all messed up.
Nobody wants to support the one console I may consider buying at some point...I probably wont...because nobody will support it.

But I'm still wondering why Nintendo doesn't make their own mature titles. They're good at making the Mario and Kirby games, why the hell don't they put together a team to make a mature fantasy rpg or a killer fps, or maybe an rts since they have the touchscreen anyway.

Because they're not interested in them, mostly because they see right through them for what they really are: shallow attempts to seem "adult" when in fact they're so blatantly juvenile it's painful. They have no interest in such childish antics because they know while they'll make money for a few years their lasting power has always been suspect. Their repertoire of RPGs is fine, they have no interest in the FPS craze especially since it seems to be going DOWN as of late, and for RTS's they have Pikmin for that. They work by genre and mechanics, not by trying to emulate the efforts of writers just copying what's hot on TV at the moment.

You're right, their attempts thus far have been really lame but it always seems like they're just dipping a toe in the market. I don't feel bitter about it but I too think it's weird.
What I do feel bitter about: I finally have money to buy all of these new consoles and none of them interest me. wpp

 

[AdamRBi]

Lemme guess...couldn't find a way to stick uPlay into it...

Actually.. there is a uplay app for it =x

That's a fucking lie. The Assassins Creed ports were fantastic, as well as supported a hudless screen, literally the only benefit I see to the controller of the WiiU.

I think that most people who don't "get" what the controller is for obviously don't own a wii u or have ever even seen one in person. Because I have one and love that I can play most of the games on the controller while my gf watches netflix on the ps3.

OT: So I guess this means that there won't be a ZombieU 2?

I have played the WiiU. Not much, I'll give you that, it was one play session. All I saw was what I saw on the DS and the 3DS and still see today: Its completely useless gameplay wise. It is still a gimmick, and the only benefit of any of it is to remove the hud, which improves immersion on the console games and prevents insane cluttering on the handhelds.

If you've only played games that use the Gamepad as a UI/HUD then I get where you're coming from. I'd highly suggest playing the party games, like Nintendoland, with friends because that's where it really shines. Off-TV play is really great too if you just want to get in a quick game but either someone's using the TV or you're sitting in an adjacent room (like an office or toilet room)that doesn't have a TV.

I could be considered a gimmick, gimmicks aren't always bad things, but in an environment where it'd be too expensive to compete with PCs what else is a console to do other then try to expand and innovate in interesting ways?

Just, hopefully, not in the same ways arcades did...

 

[AJ_Lethal]

Ubisoft succeeding or failing on the system was literally the decider for every other company: "If this company, who is trying the hardest, cant succeed on the system with games that do incredibly well everywhere else, then our predictions were confirmed once again"

Think of this less as: "Ubisoft has stopped making mature games for the WiiU" and more like "Any chance of third party support just died, and the consoles fate is sealed"

>looks at Rayman Legends delay because multiplatform
>looks at Watch_Dogs delay because reasons
>looks at lack of DLC and advertising for AC3/4

If anything Ubisoft was half-assing it. They aren't so different from EA or WB.

A complete failure, and Nintendos refusal to not support the system is essentially them wasting money at this point.

Sure, dropping the console midway has worked so well for Sega. In fact, it worked so fucking well they did it 3 times in a row. Because commiting suicide by pissing off ~7 million people who bought your console is the greatest idea ever, am I right?

 

[LaochEire]

I don't blame them, it's a business decision and one that seems correct. I played Zombie U, it was fantastic, it sold so poorly. I played their other ports of AC III and AC IV and thought they did excellent jobs.

What more can they do? In fact, out of all the major 3rd party studios, they put the most games on the system.

I look at other forums, not based on gaming and the general view from casual's of the Wii U is it's a weak console for babies.

Now, I know that's the wrong opinion, but that's its perception. Most people who bought the system are die hard Nintendo fans with interest only in their first party games like Mario and Zelda. Of all the people I know who have one that seems the case.

 

[Vault101]

I never understood people who make this line. The console is now getting even less third party support, and you have an even lower selection of games, and there is nothing that can change that anymore. How is that a good thing? The console is a failure. A complete failure, and Nintendos refusal to not support the system is essentially them wasting money at this point.

because....they only want the specific and narrow range of the games that the Wii U offers?

which is fine I guess, the next mario whatever might be a refreshing change, but it just seems very limited to me unless your one of those people who can afford more than one console/systm

 

[FPLOON]

Now I kinda want to buy Watch Dogs on my Wii U out of spite.

And I really don't want to buy Watch Dogs.

I feel the same way... and I kept telling myself that I would more or less buy the game used just out of sheer curiosity...

Now, I want to buy Watch_Dogs brand new AND from Gamestop ONLY for the Wii U [I don't have as of this very comment]...

Killing two birds with one stone in a "confusing" kind of way...