UK Defense Secretary Calls for Medal of Honor Ban

sheah1

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People here should realise that there's no British forces in MW2. TF141 is an American run organisation, it has British members, but it's American.

Now, to those telling the guy to go fuck himself, and saying he's an idiot, he has a point. CoD were decent enough to make a fake one, Medal of Honour has no reason not to follow suite. Put yourself in the position of one of the kids who HAS lost a parent or sibling in that war, playing as Opfor, an imaginary organisation, is one thing, but playing as the Taliban is another thing entirely. MW2 got rid of the SAS and made the imaginary TF141, there is no reason why MoH should use the actual Taliban. Can anyone give a reason other than, "it's a game"?

Whilst there may be a distinction to the online Taliban, and the real life Taliban, CoD made the distinction obvious by renaming the organisation, MoH are trying to get out from CoD's shadow, and create a controversy to get a load of free publicity. There's no other reason for it really.

Saying that, I probably will buy it, I do just think it's a slap in the face to the British Armed Forces, and seeing as how I'll be joining those armed forces in 2 years (or maybe 2 weeks, lets see if i get back into Uni first), I can understand why people would be pissed off about it.

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Patton662 said:
It's ok when the British soldiers kill the Talibans after all I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE they don't have their own wives and children. And I'm also 100% CERTAIN that British soldiers have never, ever harmed an innocent person or tortured POVs. God save the Queen !!
I don't think it's possible to torture point's of view...

As an aside, yeah, we do, but it's our country, and like it or not, we should support our military, nevermind how fucking retarded our government is.
 

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I am a proud Briton; who the fuck has the right to tell me what i consider to be British or un-British?

If anything, i think it would show our armed forces that we are aware of their struggle. We know they are fighting a war out there and whether we support it or not we are conscious of the men and women putting their lives on the line on a daily basis.

What's next? Ban all war games where you play as a Nazi for multiplayer? How about ban the Grand Theft Auto franchise - it's a disgusting way to show disrespect to our police forces right?

Reading this makes me both sad and angry and realise we're one step away from moving from being not just a nanny Big Brother state, but a fascist nanny Big Brother state.

Lord help us.
 

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Did someone say "Un-British game"? DO WANT!

But in all seriousness, This guy's wasting time banning about a virtual conflict when he should be bithcing about the real one. It's like an image of him bolloking th game, but the two Taliban are just tip-toeing right behind him.
 

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Soooo, he's saying it's a disrespect to the members of the war when someone makes a game, not designed in any way to be a statement on war, or a message or even a depiction of current events. Yet it isn't disrepectful to troops when we entered a war for very shaky reasons, failed to support them and when they have to have members of the public get the money for them when they come back injured (Help For Heroes) because the government won't do crap for them.

Ha-ha-ha, hypocrisy.

Are you talking about Iraq or Afghanistan? We entered the two for very different reasons, Iraq simply for money, Afghanistan was a NATO thing however. Also, Help For Heroes isn't because the government wont do anything for them, it's because patriotic people believe in helping those in our military. It has nothing to do with politics. You know as much about that war as Fox does about video games.
 

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I find it interesting, Liam Fox is possibly the most un-british thing next to the BNP. Why?
In Britain we are tolerant of just about everything and everyone, the government has completely levelled British culture, nursery rhymes such as "bar bar black sheep" have been altered incase they offend. Whilst at the same time empower certain faiths to be allowed to wear things such as burkhas, if i walked down the street with a ski mask or tried to enter a bank i'd be jumped on but if you do it in a burkha its fine, its ok, no problem. Playing as the taliban is a good call imo, you can't complain about the losses we've taken in afganistan. The general public was never in favour of the war, the men and women who serve, were not forced into it. They joined of their own volition and above all, whatever losses we have taken, civilian, military or otherwise, i can assure you the enemy has taken a damn sight more. Yes you dont see them crying that they're enemies in some kind of video game or that you can play as the allied forces.
 

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Liam Fox is a idiot. It's not like the ppl in the UK (yer I live in the UK) are goin to end up buyin a real rocket launcher and blast it in cities or end up prayin Bin Laden after playin as the Taliban in the game.

As long as he doesn't effect the release of the game then that's perfect and yer, Stupid Tories
 

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-It's not hard to see why Fox is upset - EA knew this would be controversial when it was making the game - but it's still a little sad to see an elected official respond in such a knee-jerk manner.-

In other words he has done exactly what EA wanted him to do. I'd be upset if I was so damn easy to manipulate.

I'll tell you what's un-british. Whining like a little schoolgirl that life isn't fair.
 

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Stevo92 said:
Liam Fox is a idiot. It's not like the ppl in the UK (yer I live in the UK) are goin to end up buyin a real rocket launcher and blast it in cities or end up prayin Bin Laden after playin as the Taliban in the game.

As long as he doesn't effect the release of the game then that's perfect and yer, Stupid Tories
Erm, no he isn't. He doesn't expect any of that at all, he just thinks it's an insult to the Soldiers who're currently fighting the Taliban, and their families.

As to the guys who're saying that it seems okay for us to kill the enemy, but not for our guys to die. Well, yeah, bit of a given that isn't it? Also, we have enough problems trying to make sure our government cares about us, should we really be bothered if they don't give a fuck about other countries? They are the BRITISH government after all...
 

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Doesn't really call for a ban, but EA will not get my backing on this. Adding the Taliban WAS just a tasteless addition.

I mean, it was put there only to garner attention. Next up they might make a plane simulator game where you crash into buildings. You know EA would do that if it gets them attention. Even if it is just Multiplayer.

I don't get when companies try to be edgy. It's always a miss.
 

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Stabby Joe said:
If he can't actually ban the game, retailers aren't going to NOT stock it. The MoH series is long standing and rakes it in.
Exactly. Don't stock a guaranteed bestseller, especially in the middle of a recession? Fox is in la-la land.
 

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LOL. It was inevitable that you will play the Taliban. Who will you fight if you can't play Taliban? Ourselves? That doesn't sound realist, or even make sense. Not to mention that at some point people will think "I wonder how it was like to be on the Taliban? They had to have had some reason to die for" so I won't be surprised if someone makes a game where the main story is of a member of the Taliban. Also don't you think that we killed just as much family from the Taliban as they did for us? Now that you've mentioned it Mr. Fox, we'll buy the game more now that you gave the game contreversy, we'll have the curiosity selling the game. Have fun with millions playing the game (not mentioning you will get a beta invite to Battlefield 3 if you pre-orger the game >:D)
 

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MidwayWuzzupman said:
LOL. It was inevitable that you will play the Taliban. Who will you fight if you can't play Taliban? Ourselves? That doesn't sound realist, or even make sense.
You HAVE played CoD, right?
 

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MidwayWuzzupman said:
Also don't you think that we killed just as much family from the Taliban as they did for us? )
So isn't it just as disrespectful to the Taliban as it is to us?
 

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"At the hands of the Taliban, children have lost fathers and wives have lost husbands,"
Yeah, and so did at the hands of US Marines, and Nazis, and Soviets. What kind of lame argument is this.