UK Police Arrest Teen Over Call of Duty Hacking

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Pirate Kitty said:
Sparrow said:
At first I was like "what?" but now I'm all like "Go UK! KILL THE PIRATES! I mean, er, modders. Same thing."

Pirate Kitty said:
Let's hope he is innocent.
Wait, what, I don't even... no seriously, what do you mean by that?
I mean I hope he is innocent.

Pretty straight forward concept.
And there you go being all snide again, sheesh. You could participate in the Snide Olympics. Also, yeah, that joke as purposefully bad before you say anything.

I'm just confused as to why you say that. I get your whole "it'd be nice if everything wasn't bad and if everything was shiny and if bunnies roamed the land" concept of "innocent is sweel, let's hope nobody does anything wrong again ever" - but he's obviously NOT innocent. There's pretty conclusive proof in the article that the kid is a modding fellow. It's like looking at someone who is on fire and saying "Gee, I hope he's not actually on fire right now. That'd suck."
 

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Oh I get it. When I first read it I was like "Wait how was he doing this in September if Black Ops didn't come out until November?" but then I remembered, of course, Modern Warfare.
 

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Anaklusmos said:
moretimethansense said:
Pirate Kitty said:
Wicky_42 said:
So you wander around wanting everybody to be guilty of crimes? Do you assume that every court case should have a 'guilty' verdict? You should definitely be on a jury, lol.

You should never assume someone's guilty until it's proven. That's the entire point why we have courts and law and (unfortunately) lawyers instead of lynch mobs. You know, to weigh up evidence and make a decision based on that in a proper way, allowing the accused to defend themselves.
Ahhh. The voice of reason. How sweet it sounds to my ears.

You're not single by any chance, are you?

moretimethansense said:
Oh for fuck's sake
read this and pay attention

I DON'T "WANT" HIM TO BE GUILTY,
I FIND THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE WOULD ACTIVLY WANT HIM TO BE INNOCENT TO BE ABSURD!
So you want him to not be guilty... but wanting him to be innocent is absurd?

Logic. That is just awesome logic right there. Epic.
Read what I said you tit!

I don't want him to be ANYTHING
Wanting him to be guilty is stupid
wanting him to be not guilty is stupid
I dont know any other way I can say it, this is the simpelest laguage I can put it in, I would've though that SOMEONE would've been able to fucking read and understand a not-very-difficult-to-understand concept!

You see now you've gone and got my dander up.
I think I love you. You're just awesome.

I like the fact that as the internet becomes a larger part of everyones lives there are now laws which protect people. What was recently in a paper I read today was how they are trying to crack down on internet stalkers and bring in laws to protect those affected by said internet stalkers.
I'm going to assume that that wasn't sarcasm and say thanks.

On cyberstalking I feel there isn't that much difference between it and actual stalking especially nowadays that everyone is online most of the time, the only difference I can see is nobody is going through your bins or hiding behind a hedge with a camera and the former could quite easily lead into the latter.

Sparrow said:
At first I was like "what?" but now I'm all like "Go UK! KILL THE PIRATES! I mean, er, modders. Same thing."

Pirate Kitty said:
Let's hope he is innocent.
Wait, what, I don't even... no seriously, what do you mean by that?
Oh god, don't get her(him?) started please!
 

Jamash

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IckleMissMayhem said:
As for the Manchester Met - you'd think with the amount of violent crimes that happen on a daily basis that they'd not have time to arrest some little oik cheating at games... Mind you, this is the Police Force that decided to post every call they got for 24 hours on Twitter, after all...
To be fair, it was the specific E-Crimes division who made the arrest after they were contacted by Activision and requested to do so, it's not like they were pulling normal bobbies off the street or diverting resources away from other divisions to investigate COD in the hope they'll catch a hacker.

I'd imagine the amount of manpower involved was minimal, especially when compared to the entire force as a whole. Activision did most of the detective work and supplied the details, it would have merely been a simple formality for the E-Crimes division to match and trace the IP address and make the arrest.

Also, when the Police have been contacted by someone (especially an entity of Activision's standing) and officially informed of a crime, they have to follow it up, more so when they are presented with documented logs of the crime taking place.
 

Therumancer

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In principle I agree with this, however I think it's a rather petty use of the laws when there are bigger (related) issues to be dealt with.

Still, I'd imagine the idea is to make an example out of this kid in hopes of reducing the behavior overall. A couple of kids go to jail for 10 years or more (despite the suspician that this will be a slap on the wrist) and then everyone contemplating the same thing will be LITERALLY afraid of getting "vanned" and it's liable to reduce casual DDOS attacks overall.

The one bit that confuses me here though is that I see nothing about them going after the guys who provided the program that could do this.
 

Magnatek

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Jamash said:
IckleMissMayhem said:
As for the Manchester Met - you'd think with the amount of violent crimes that happen on a daily basis that they'd not have time to arrest some little oik cheating at games... Mind you, this is the Police Force that decided to post every call they got for 24 hours on Twitter, after all...
To be fair, it was the specific E-Crimes division who made the arrest after they were contacted by Activision and requested to do so, it's not like they were pulling normal bobbies off the street or diverting resources away from other divisions to investigate COD in the hope they'll catch a hacker.

I'd imagine the amount of manpower involved was minimal, especially when compared to the entire force as a whole. Activision did most of the detective work and supplied the details, it would have merely been a simple formality for the E-Crimes division to match and trace the IP address and make the arrest.

Also, when the Police have been contacted by someone (especially an entity of Activision's standing) and officially informed of a crime, they have to follow it up, more so when they are presented with documented logs of the crime taking place.
I never thought I'd see the day...someone else who knows that police are actually creating dedicated cybercrime divisions! I mean, sure, it doesn't seem like much, but based on a lot of beliefs I've seen (including a certain defense of "OMG this is going to prevent ACTUAL crimes from being caught"), this is quite a thing here.

OT: It's a sad thing that someone would try to get ahead in a GAME like this. I mean, come on! Why do this at all when you probably know you'll get caught one of these days? I may want to keep an eye on this ruling, though, not as keen as the whole California thing.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
Let's hope he is innocent.
Why is it nearly every post you make create a tide of people disagreeing with you? Do you say iffy things purposefully? Eh Pirate Kitty will be Pirate Kitty...

OT:DoS? On CoD? Wow...reeeeally?