UN Group Urges Japan to Ban Explicit Games and Manga

Crimsane

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I'm amused. The U.S. has a sexual assault rate per capita that's something like fifteen times that of Japan. Other nations in the UN have higher rates as well, yet we still feel superior enough to push resolutions like this on Japan?
 

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Crimsane said:
I'm amused. The U.S. has a sexual assault rate per capita that's something like fifteen times that of Japan. Other nations in the UN have higher rates as well, yet we still feel superior enough to push resolutions like this on Japan?
You do know that japan most likely view woman as trash anyways, and woman don't want to tell what happen to them due to be dishonor or bringing shame to the family. Just because they say they have a lower assault rate, doesn't mean they don't have less then anyone else. Last post here.
 

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Crimsane said:
I'm amused. The U.S. has a sexual assault rate per capita that's something like fifteen times that of Japan. Other nations in the UN have higher rates as well, yet we still feel superior enough to push resolutions like this on Japan?
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A splash of cold reality in the face of ignorant hypocrisy.
 

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Outcast107 said:
Crimsane said:
I'm amused. The U.S. has a sexual assault rate per capita that's something like fifteen times that of Japan. Other nations in the UN have higher rates as well, yet we still feel superior enough to push resolutions like this on Japan?
You do know that japan most likely view woman as trash anyways, and woman don't want to tell what happen to them due to be dishonor or bringing shame to the family. Just because they say they have a lower assault rate, doesn't mean they don't have less then anyone else. Last post here.
Dude, it isn't the 19th century over there. It's a very much Westernized, very much modernized country, whose myriad incidents of sexual bizarreness and eccentric social norms are merely the result of a repressed society finding outlets in an open and modern context. No need to make them out to be the Taliban.
 

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urging japan to get rid of these games is like urging the US to get rid of all it's Mcdonalds, well because they're BAD for you. LIKE WE GIVE A $#!7.
 

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Outcast107 said:
You do know that japan most likely view woman as trash anyways
...What?

woman don't want to tell what happen to them due to be dishonor or bringing shame to the family.
So the majority don't get reported, just like everywhere else? Doesn't really skew the numbers that much, in terms of per country rates, since people everywhere are unlikely to report.
 

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If all world leaders have prioritizing skills this poor, it's amazing to think that our world still isn't like the one in Idiocracy. Seriously, why try banning these things when you could help those women in the Middle East who get beat up just cause (didn't fact-check this one, don't hurt me)? Oh yeah, because it's easier and will give you a better image in a shorter amount of time than dealing with actual issues that affects actual people.

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RebelRising said:
Outcast107 said:
Crimsane said:
I'm amused. The U.S. has a sexual assault rate per capita that's something like fifteen times that of Japan. Other nations in the UN have higher rates as well, yet we still feel superior enough to push resolutions like this on Japan?
You do know that japan most likely view woman as trash anyways, and woman don't want to tell what happen to them due to be dishonor or bringing shame to the family. Just because they say they have a lower assault rate, doesn't mean they don't have less then anyone else. Last post here.
Dude, it isn't the 19th century over there. It's a very much Westernized, very much modernized country, whose myriad incidents of sexual bizarreness and eccentric social norms are merely the result of a repressed society finding outlets in an open and modern context. No need to make them out to be the Taliban.
So true. How else can you explain this monstrosity
http://www.nopuedocreer.com/noticias/wp-content/images/2009/06/unko-san-protas.jpg
 

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Crimsane said:
woman don't want to tell what happen to them due to be dishonor or bringing shame to the family.
So the majority don't get reported, just like everywhere else? Doesn't really skew the numbers that much, in terms of per country rates, since people everywhere are unlikely to report.
Furthermore, I don't think "non-reported rapes" (which, by the way, occur globally. It's not a Japanese-only phenomenon) can account for something like 8-10x as many reported cases in the US as Japan gets.

There's only so much number skewing you can blame on culture. That the US has a higher rate than Japan at all says that these games are clearly not doing anything 'bad' en masse for the population in Japan.
 

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Yet Japan has the lowest instances of Rape and violence towards women than any other place in the western world. Could it be that the people that have those kinds of thoughts have a way to get their jollies off without having to do it real life? A ban on this material will cause these individuals to act out on their impulses.

But, I say go ahead and ban it. You will create an instant demand for that stuff, so more people will see this kind of smut. Even the ones that have no interest in it will go out of their way to see it. And as long as the internet exists, people will see it.
 

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Well, I think the UN has it's heart in the right place. Then again, Japan just wouldn't be the same without it's perverted games...
They should go to Taiwan before Japan then.

Of course the last thing the UN did was...wait..never mind.
The last thing they ever did was back in the 50's. Ever since then they get onto their high horses and ***** about things that can only be solved within ones country by ones own countrymen.
 

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malestrithe said:
Yet Japan has the lowest instances of Rape and violence towards women than any other place in the western world. Could it be that the people that have those kinds of thoughts have a way to get their jollies off without having to do it real life? A ban on this material will cause these individuals to act out on their impulses.

But, I say go ahead and ban it. You will create an instant demand for that stuff, so more people will see this kind of smut. Even the ones that have no interest in it will go out of their way to see it. And as long as the internet exists, people will see it.
UNLESS
you live in China! Then you get to see the "Special" internet.
 

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JWAN said:
HardRockSamurai said:
Well, I think the UN has it's heart in the right place. Then again, Japan just wouldn't be the same without it's perverted games...
They should go to Taiwan before Japan then.
The one time you choose to insult Taiwan, and you just had the quote the guy who's actually TAIWANESE!!!

[small]You have fine luck sir :)[/small]
 

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I honestly don't see how these groups can try to make drawings/cartoons illegal, and that they actually are getting so much support.

Some of you out there honestly feel people should go to PRISON just because they drew or watched a picture/cartoon? I can see why the content of the cartoon may disagree with people's ideas of decency or morality, but arresting people for artwork, no matter the content, is just one step away from arresting people for THOUGHT CRIMES, since isn't a drawing merely the visual representation of what was in the drawer's mind?

The artist did not actually rape anyone, a person who draws an image of their A-hole boss being strung up in a noose did not commit murder, and a kid drawing a pot leaf did not really do drugs. There was NO crime committed, merely putting pen to paper.

And for those who say "Yes, ban the rape games, but our killing games are different because we're the good guys" are deluding yourselves. Carmageddon, Redneck Rampage, Postal, GTA, Fallout, Bioshock, and numerous other games not only give you the option, or the ability, to kill innocents, but some of these games actually promote that aspect, and many of these games are top sellers winning numerous awards.

Banning these games and cartoons will not get rid of them. Banning things NEVER works. Like one of the above posters pointed out we banned alcohol (Prohibition) and only succeeded in creating Al Capone and the other black market alcohol violent mafia tycoons. We make drugs illegal and only succeed in creating an ultra-violent black market underworld, in countries all over the world, who kill innocents daily in order to keep the product going. If cartoons or games are made illegal, the only effect will be to drive the product underground, making criminals a boat load of cash, and now because it's a crime they'll have to start defending their black market stuff with knives and guns, possibly hurting more people.

Like another poster above said, if I were Japan, I'd tell these UN and American groups, that "Yes, we'll ban our games, and our manga, and our anime....as soon as you can get America to ban their Soprano's style mafia shows, and their The Wire style gang shows, and their Weeds style drug glamorizing shows, and their Superbad style movies that glamorize underage drinking and sex. Do as your Bible says, and cast out the beam from your own eyes before coming over here to pluck the mote from ours. Do this, and we'll see what we can do."
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
The committee further observed that Japan's current child pornography laws don't apply to fictional depictions of children in erotic games, manga, and anime - no matter how explicit.
BECAUSE NO CHILDREN/WOMEN/ANIMALS/GROWN UPS/LICE/LINT ARE HARMED IN THE MAKING OF CARTOONS YOU RETARDED RETROGRADE PIECES OF MALFUNCTIONING, INCOHERENT, SUB-HUMAN, SEMI-SENTIENT SHIT.

Sorry for the caps in your inbox John, not directed at you, but sadly there's no "Quote" code to mail it directly to the UN twits. Just had to let it out...

It honestly, truly pisses me the fuck off when people are: a) hypocrites and b) incoherent. So this is one of the things that makes me feel murderous rage on the count that it manages to be BOTH.

Ok, let's get one thing straight, laws are made to protect people, not to favor tastes. The anti-child pornography law exists because one can't be certain that children can be provide educated consent regarding what they're doing, and, worse, are more often than not forced to do it... This is not ok. This is rape and sexual exploitation and needs to be punished as severely as possible.

...Now get this, cartoons do NOT harm people. If I draw a 5 year older taking it up the ass from... A horse for all I care... Nobody is harmed. Nobody. Not you, not me, not any child anywhere, nobody. If anything, people can claim they dislike it. But guess what, if they complain this is immoral but don't complain about every other videogame ever made, they are FUCKING HYPOCRITES, because almost every game ever made trivializes violence and/or murder. If watching movies, cartoons or playing videogames about murdering people does not turn you into a fucking murderer, then you can bet your ass (literally and metaphorically) playing rape games does not turn someone into a goddamn rapist.

No, I'm not the biggest fan of rape games... But I'm not enough of a fucking hypocrite to call people who like them "ZIOMFG IMORAL MONSTERS!!!" while I'm having fun blowing people's brains clear out of the skull for 2 hours for no good reason but because it's fun.

I'll say it again, a lot of people just need to fucking die and stop polluting the gene pool before we can become a better "kind" of humanity...
 

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Wait, so this was requested by people against the discrimination of women?

So... couldn't they just appeal to have more men raped in that kind of material? I mean, there's also plenty of porn outside of Japan too, so I don't see why they're picking on that country so much.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Can't the UN prioritize anything?

You have the entire middle east which treats women like property, Chinese parents still illegally kill female children at or before birth, and the most of Africa believes that the cure for aids is to rape a virgin, and they're wasting their time on fucking VIDEO GAMES?
Well, the UN prioritizes first-world nations first. It seems like they're saying that we should know better than those third-world types and allows the third-world continue down the road to hell while they do little to help. Well, okay, not little, they do a lot, but not enough I guess. I don't know, I try to stay out of global politics.
Khell_Sennet said:
Oh tap-dancing Buddha on a communion cracker!
You have *no* idea how much I want to witness this happen, now.