UN Group Urges Japan to Ban Explicit Games and Manga

John Stalvern

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Outcast107 said:
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I'm amused. The U.S. has a sexual assault rate per capita that's something like fifteen times that of Japan. Other nations in the UN have higher rates as well, yet we still feel superior enough to push resolutions like this on Japan?
You do know that japan most likely view woman as trash anyways, and woman don't want to tell what happen to them due to be dishonor or bringing shame to the family. Just because they say they have a lower assault rate, doesn't mean they don't have less then anyone else. Last post here.
I don't think you've been to Japan, or know anything about modern Japanese culture.
 

HyenaThePirate

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Kollega said:
Besides,only unimaginative types need porn.
I'm rather curious about what you mean by this statement?

Are you suggesting that imaginative types find a way to get real sex by any means necessary?
That porn is only for people who either dont have the intelligence or courage to rape real LIVE women, or that they should just go pay for sex, which is also illegal in most countries?

I guess I just fail to see what is "unimaginative" about porn... Am i doing something wrong? Should I be attaching hidden cameras to my shoes then walking around the local mall? Maybe I should be cruising craigslist for all the BBW plumpers offering themselves up out of desperation?

A little clarification please..
 

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Kollega said:
In a words of Cristopher C. Livingston,FRIGGIN FINALLY. Porn promoting misogyny is not too good for bringing equality to the world.

Besides,only unimaginative types need porn.

Actually,UN could have issued another resolution - declaring that there must be more female-on-male raep in hentai.
I like the way you think! :D
 

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Onmi said:
Japan: Sure, once you stop all the video games depiciting the racist killing of germans and japanese!

Geh you all know my thoughts on censorship, I don't like Rapelay or what it stands for but I prefer they get that shit out of there system in a game than on the streets. Personally the U.N. should be looking into the molestation problems or the workplace problems.
I'm with Onmi on this one. I really don't respond well to censorship attempts. It may not be my kind of content but that doesn't mean I'm going to get up on a soapbox and decry it as the devil in order to have it removed for everybody else.
 

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HyenaThePirate said:
Kollega said:
Besides,only unimaginative types need porn.
I'm rather curious about what you mean by this statement?

Are you suggesting that imaginative types find a way to get real sex by any means necessary?
That porn is only for people who either dont have the intelligence or courage to rape real LIVE women, or that they should just go pay for sex, which is also illegal in most countries?

I guess I just fail to see what is "unimaginative" about porn... Am i doing something wrong? Should I be attaching hidden cameras to my shoes then walking around the local mall? Maybe I should be cruising craigslist for all the BBW plumpers offering themselves up out of desperation?

A little clarification please..
Maybe he meant that people with active imaginations could just imagine sex instead of needing porn. I've heard that argument made before.
 

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I doubt Japan will respond to this. Have any of you ever been to Akihabara? Pornography and whatnot is big business, especially involving rape simulation/manga. Though I don't have any solid facts, something tells me that Japan makes big profits from its pornographic industry... and that includes the type of pornography this UN group is trying to condemn.

In the end, its all about money I'm afraid =\
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Oh tap-dancing Buddha on a communion cracker! Can't the UN prioritize anything?

You have the entire middle east which treats women like property, Chinese parents still illegally kill female children at or before birth, and the most of Africa believes that the cure for aids is to rape a virgin, and they're wasting their time on fucking VIDEO GAMES?
seconded, i just think that because they cant do much to help with anything real they go after easy PR wins, that do nothing but make them look useful
 

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If the UN really wants to go after something they should start going after the people who make the real life child porn and rape movies and books. Fantasy is just that fantasy these books/games are not teaching you how to rape step by step and they are not hurting anyone in fact I agree with the statements that they may actually be helping some people get out their agressions and fantasies without actually doing it in real life. I think that they are definitely not something you would sell or show to younger impressionable kids but if an adult wants to play or read it then so be it.

Censorship is not going to solve problems all it is doing is getting this industry more media and exposing more people to these games/books so they are basically just advertising it more then if they just left it alone.
 

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Amnestic said:
HyenaThePirate said:
Kollega said:
Besides,only unimaginative types need porn.
I'm rather curious about what you mean by this statement?

Are you suggesting that imaginative types find a way to get real sex by any means necessary?
That porn is only for people who either dont have the intelligence or courage to rape real LIVE women, or that they should just go pay for sex, which is also illegal in most countries?

I guess I just fail to see what is "unimaginative" about porn... Am i doing something wrong? Should I be attaching hidden cameras to my shoes then walking around the local mall? Maybe I should be cruising craigslist for all the BBW plumpers offering themselves up out of desperation?

A little clarification please..
Maybe he meant that people with active imaginations could just imagine sex instead of needing porn. I've heard that argument made before.
Yes and that argument fails.
By that reasoning, we have absolutely NO need for television, video games, or the movie industry.

That logic implies that Video games are for unimaginative people who should just play pen and paper rpgs with dice.

It implies that there is no need to see a movie based on a book, because only unimaginative people would need to SEE a movie instead of just reading the book and being imaginative.

Hell, for that matter, why have books? Why not just release two page synopsis of the stories and let Imaginative people fill in the blanks of how the story could or should have gone?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending rape games or porn obsessions, but to say that the use of porn is strictly for unimaginative people is to completely obliterate the need for any FORM of ART. Why view a painting in a museum when you should be imaginative enough to visualize the emotion yourself?
 

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ZahrDalsk said:
These sick bastards, I bet they think everything should be consensual sex between a married man and woman, in the missionary position, with the lights off!
Give it long enough and you find yourself in the situation where you will be having sexual intercourse with a member of the opposite sex (or same sex if that's the way you swing) in an unconventional position, you'll notice a blinking light on the ceiling before hearing a muffled voice say 'either do the missionary or stop what you're doing...it's weird!'.

I personally subscribe the the train of thought that says that I'd rather see more of these games out there rather than less, after all, the more time rapists and child molesters spend fapping to video games is time spent not harming actual people.
 

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Onmi said:
Japan: Sure, once you stop all the video games depiciting the racist killing of germans and japanese!
Please don't tell me you don't think the allied wars against Germany and Japan were racially motivated.

Axis fanboy!
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Oh tap-dancing Buddha on a communion cracker! Can't the UN prioritize anything?

You have the entire middle east which treats women like property, Chinese parents still illegally kill female children at or before birth, and the most of Africa believes that the cure for aids is to rape a virgin, and they're wasting their time on fucking VIDEO GAMES?
This.
The UN is totally useless.
 

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Outcast107 said:
bodyklok said:
"First they came for RapeLay, I did nothing, for I did not play RapeLay."
Please, don't pull the bullshit on me. Rape and defending yourself from monster/aliens/bad guys are different. I just can't stand behind something that promote rape. Most of my cousins are girls, and I would KILL! anyone who touch them like that. So anyone who says "this is just a game" piss off. your just defending a game that promote rape, and says its ok to go do it. At least in most shooters you can't redo it. The only game you can redo is GTA and most people don't get off to it unless their already crazy in the head.
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The main objection towards rape is that it's not very fun for the victim. And hey, newsflash. When something's fictional, there is no victim. None... Other than the pixels.

But hey, maybe you'd feel better if you were raping monsters/aliens/bad guys? Racist. Just because something isn't a part of the human species doesn't mean it doesn't have feelings. And if the pixelated fictional women of rapelay have feelings, then Mr. Fxolaitzxzliot of the planet aXjlkjzc 51 does too. And he also has a loving family of eight children that will become orphans when you kill him. Then they'll starve to death. You immoral monster!
 

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Joshimodo said:
"Hey, country that isn't under our rules and regulations! Do what we tell you!"


Let them have them, it's not like it's affecting them or us.
yes, it is.. I love japanese anime/manga/games.
I know of a small company that subs games and puts them on torrent sites... all these games are uniqe games that people in other countrys are too scared to make, japanese are the better people for making games like this, REAL games where you can do what you would normally never do, this is REAL entertainment.
I have rapelay on this computer... and I do not have any plans to rape in real life.
but then.. japan used to sell used schoolgirl pantys in vendors (lol, it's true look it up) so they will not listen to the UN.

oh, and as to the person 1 (Not the person.. the quote he has) post above me.. talking about GTA and promoting rape.. as you said.. only people allready fucked in the head would copy gta. only people fucked in the head would copy rape.
and as I said.. I play rapelay.. but I don't think real rape is ok at all... but some pixels going into other pixels along with some "yadda!(NO!)" noises.. that's all game rape is.
 

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How about the UN stops the rapes and sexual mutilation of women and young girls in reality, then they can work on censoring thoughts.
 

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Onmi said:
Japan: Sure, once you stop all the video games depiciting the racist killing of germans and japanese!

Geh you all know my thoughts on censorship, I don't like Rapelay or what it stands for but I prefer they get that shit out of there system in a game than on the streets. Personally the U.N. should be looking into the molestation problems or the workplace problems.

And yeah I was thinking slow news day huh...
Or maybe the world-wide sexual slavery problem. Pixels are more important than people?
 

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Amnestic said:
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Acts of violence, sexual or not, against children real or fabricated should be condemned unilaterally and should really be a no brainer to a civilised society.
Are you going to go protest against the Fallout 3 "Children can be killed" mods as well? Whether the collection of pixels depicts a child or an adult: It's still a collection of pixels. People's inability to distinguish reality from fiction isn't the fault of game developers, movie directors, authors or sculptors. It's on the individual. Why should I have my enjoyment censored because someone else is too out of touch with reality to understand where the boundaries are?

And if something offends your delicate sensibilities? Ignore it. I highly doubt anyone playing these rape games are doing so in your face. Pushing your nose into what other people fap to in the privacy of their own home is coming dangerously close to arresting people on 'thought crimes'.

Big Brother, Slippery Slope fallacy, yada yada.
Got me thinking there... I guess I wouldnt accept it if it was just tossed in for laughs but if its was motivated by a sensible story line and / or plot I wouldnt be to against violence against a kid , but I wouldnt accept any sexual implication at all... thats going a lot overboard, in my opinion.

I prefer education and warning over complete censorship but there is a limit.