OK, well forgive me for not quite believing that an 11-year-old autistic kid has managed to "tamper his account" to boost his gamer score, and that he should be treated just the same as a regular 15+ year old.KalosCast said:He didn't get berated, he got the exact same treatment that everyone else gets in that situation. Being autistic doesn't magically make you immune to the rules that you agreed to when signing up for a service.Woodsey said:Even if he was cheating, I don't think they need to berate an autistic, 11-year-old kid for something that is obviously important to him - and important in a way that most of us wouldn't "get".
Guild leaders are allowed to run a guild in any way they want. Though, kudos for bringing up yet another story where everyone loved to demonize the people who haven't gotten a chance to tell their side of the story yet.Woodsey said:OK, well forgive me for not quite believing that an 11-year-old autistic kid has managed to "tamper his account" to boost his gamer score, and that he should be treated just the same as a regular 15+ year old.KalosCast said:He didn't get berated, he got the exact same treatment that everyone else gets in that situation. Being autistic doesn't magically make you immune to the rules that you agreed to when signing up for a service.Woodsey said:Even if he was cheating, I don't think they need to berate an autistic, 11-year-old kid for something that is obviously important to him - and important in a way that most of us wouldn't "get".
I suppose that deaf guy deserved to be kicked out of his WoW guild too because he could no longer hear people on team speak.
And autistic people too, who can be CHARACTERIZED by a higher I.Q. or better logistical skills >:/Lord_Panzer said:Pretty sure if Microsoft is aware the guy they're targeting is an 11-year-old autistic they're going to make damn sure he deserves it.
They might not be PR masters, but they've got sense enough to know that the public at large frowns on unwarranted humiliation of kids with mental handicaps.
Microsoft have told their side of the story, it's right here:KalosCast said:Guild leaders are allowed to run a guild in any way they want. Though, kudos for bringing up yet another story where everyone loved to demonize the people who haven't gotten a chance to tell their side of the story yet.Woodsey said:OK, well forgive me for not quite believing that an 11-year-old autistic kid has managed to "tamper his account" to boost his gamer score, and that he should be treated just the same as a regular 15+ year old.KalosCast said:He didn't get berated, he got the exact same treatment that everyone else gets in that situation. Being autistic doesn't magically make you immune to the rules that you agreed to when signing up for a service.Woodsey said:Even if he was cheating, I don't think they need to berate an autistic, 11-year-old kid for something that is obviously important to him - and important in a way that most of us wouldn't "get".
I suppose that deaf guy deserved to be kicked out of his WoW guild too because he could no longer hear people on team speak.
Erm, they dont know he didnt do wrong? This comment is sarcastic right? You should work for the papers. I reckon he did cheat. Microsoft know what they are doing with cheaters. They can see if someone cheated. Why lie?The_root_of_all_evil said:"Fuck you, kid. We know you didn't do wrong, but we're not gonna do anything about it."Tom Goldman said:Microsoft says it's confident that someone tampered with Jackson's account to boost his score in an illegitimate manner, and doesn't currently plan to give him his achievements back.
Many years ago, this would have shocked and angered me. These days, par for the Microshaft course.
...That analogy has absolutely nothing to do with what I actually said in my post.putowtin said:I get giddly everytime I can walk across a room with out falling over (I'm disabled) should people start calling me a cheater because I walk with a stick? (not trying to start a debate here just trying to give a real life example)JediMB said:While it's a bit sad that an autistic child is made to feel so devastated, I have to say that it's ridiculous how much people care about achievements and a glorified score counter.
You're confusing the phrasing. Or, more likely, you're just a fanboy that will find any reason to shit on Microsoft. Anyway, an explanation: Microsoft never said "We know someone else cheated on your account." They said "We know someone cheated on your account." They didn't absolve the kid. They just said "look, somebody cheated, this is what we do to cheaters. Deal."The_root_of_all_evil said:"Fuck you, kid. We know you didn't do wrong, but we're not gonna do anything about it."Tom Goldman said:Microsoft says it's confident that someone tampered with Jackson's account to boost his score in an illegitimate manner, and doesn't currently plan to give him his achievements back.
Many years ago, this would have shocked and angered me. These days, par for the Microshaft course.
Because they don't want to admit they might have made a mistake by letting an automated system lock people out and that they can't reverse anyway. And for installing it in the first place? Why shouldn't they lie?BiscuitTrouser said:Why lie?
They don't use an automated system. Stephen Tolouse (the guy in charge of XBL policy enforcement... IE, the guy with the Banhammer) has gone into great detail about the process they use.The_root_of_all_evil said:Because they don't want to admit they might have made a mistake by letting an automated system lock people out and that they can't reverse anyway. And for installing it in the first place? Why shouldn't they lie?BiscuitTrouser said:Why lie?
Even if you firmly believe, without proof, that this kid is cheating - and you firmly believe that Microsoft is in its rights to delete all of your stuff without warning and label you for the rest of your subscription, don't you think it's a little poor that the three members of customer service and the three email replies couldn't even state that? Or where he was caught cheating? Or how?
Because tomorrow, it could be you. And you've got even less chance of sympathy than this kid.