[UPDATE] Microsoft Devastates Autistic Child By Labeling Him a Cheater
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The fact that the kid is autistic is irrelevant to the story. He is simply a kid that allegedly cheated to boost his gamerscore, and any other person appealling to Microsoft saying they didn't cheat would be treated the same way. And I'm fairly certain a multibillion dollar corporation knows what they are doing. Kids aren't smart and think they can game the system, and if push comes to shove, they are going to lie about it.
No, not a cheater. Otherwise, you don't get that defensive about something after the fact. Which means Microsoft screwed up. Again.
Because some of us take our achievements very seriously. It's fine that you don't understand because I am one of those and if you asked me I would not be able to tell you why. I enjoy getting them. They are incentive for me. It is a competition sometimes (between friends) to see who can 1K a game first or even if they/you can. Just like people get bitter when a leaderboard gets hacked and cheaters take million point leads. it cheapens the whole thing for those of us who are putting in our blood, sweat and tears.Kingsnake661 said:
I for 1 hope M$ takes it on the chin on this one. Because frankly it is bullshit. They should not negotiate with terrorists and that is exactly what is happening here. Go to the official 360 forums and see how many people claim they didn't cheat but had their gamerscores reset. You don't see them on the news. And if they do give him back his account and all of his achievements then their 0 tolerance policy goes out the window and it cheapens achievements for the rest of us.
Actually it's the perfect logic for a child. Consequences really aren't particularly understood, or rather, aren't really taken into account. That, and what profit? No one in the world would know that he's cheating his gamerscore, and no one's giving them money to ban people.Tankichi said:
I don't even care that much about gamerscore, but I get the feeling that if I lost it all, I would be pretty pissed.
Sounds like the sort of incident that could be made into a Michael Moore film.
The chances if Microsoft getting it wrong is not impossible, but it's not very likely, and people will mainly see it from that point of view.
The chances if Microsoft getting it wrong is not impossible, but it's not very likely, and people will mainly see it from that point of view.
If he's a cheater, then Microsoft did the right thing. If he's not, then shame on you, Microsoft. Raaargh.
I also don't see how it matters that he's autistic. Lots of people who don't have autism use their 360s as their primary form of entertainment.
I also don't see how it matters that he's autistic. Lots of people who don't have autism use their 360s as their primary form of entertainment.
I'm going to say that I'm Autistic and people with Autism don't alway think with logic, especially the ones who are hit hard with the disease and the children.Tankichi said:
I think he could have quite weel been cheating just didn't know it was cheating. Microsoft probably had good reason, and maybe its the fact that I'm Autistic, I say punish him the same as anyone else.
Thanks for being a representative of the autistic community, I really appreciate that you've made the time to represent me as an Ambassador of Autism. This article isn't offensive in the slightest. They're repeating a news broadcast and frankly, the issue at the heart of this IS the fact that the child is autistic. The mother and media are using his disability as an excuse or justification for what's occurred and while I have sympathy for his plight, he, like any other, should be punished for cheating. It doesn't matter if he can't walk, talk or otherwise. What people like me have been trying so hard for is to be treated equally, and it's people like this child's mother who went screaming DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION and people like you who get offended over the simple use of the word autism, who ruin any chance we have for equality. So thanks, Mr. Representative, I really appreciate you setting back our social struggle another 5 years.Wiezzen said:
I have autusm and i sort of agree with u here. It MASSIVELY depends on what kind of autism the kid had. If he has, lets say, Aspergers Syndrome, then i fully support the idea the kid didn't cheat. A.S. in partiular does force repetitive and obsessive behaviour. Moreover A.S. people are less likely to break the rules. Following rules is a MAJOR thing for them/me.MelasZepheos said:
Like I said tho, it does depend on the type of autism. It's unlikely that his mum will know if he cheated or not but because of his autism its also even more likely she'll defend him otherwise.
In jist: Perhaps Microsoft should make EXTRA certain that this kid did or didn't cheat. Follow the rules sure but make sure they lable the right people.
I'd even go so far as to say that the kid would've gotten more sympathy without the autism.Triaed said:
Look at some of the responses in this thread. I highly doubt that they'd insinuate that he'd cheat, or worse, hope that he did if he wasn't autistic.
(Hell, I'm an Aspie myself and I don't give a fuck about gamerscore. Though it does boggle my mind occasionally how some people get 100k gamerscore. O_O)
He's 11, and probably still in primary (middle?) school.KalosCast said:
As someone with aspergers I know first hand the obsessive traits of those on the autism spectrum. Hopefully this will be remedied without a massive court battle that makes Microsoft looking like a douchebag. Though right now this makes them look like a massive doucheMelasZepheos said:
As someone with aspergers I know first hand the obsessive traits of those on the autism spectrum. Hopefully this will be remedied without a massive court battle that makes Microsoft looking like a douchebag. Though right now this makes them look like a massive douche[/quote]
I wish i just used this instead of rambling on about the exact same thing. I think the escapist would do good with a *LIKE* button.
I wish i just used this instead of rambling on about the exact same thing. I think the escapist would do good with a *LIKE* button.
Hmmmm... well I don't know quite what to think of this but I believe there are two things that happened. 1)The kid didn't cheat and Xbox made a mistake, maybe someone tampered with his account causing Microsoft to think it was him. 2)The kid did cheat (intentionally or not) and either the parent doesn't know (wouldn't be surprised) or is just making a big deal out of it by acting like the victim. Hopefully if the kid didn't cheat, Microsoft will find out and undo the punishments. If not, well that's what you get for breaking the rules.
If he really was cheating, then maybe he deserves it. I don't think that he deserves special treatment. It wouldn't really be fair if the punishment was lifted just because Microsoft was worried about PR issues.
Now, in general, I don't think that it's a very fair punishment. I don't know if I really think that anyone should be labelled a cheater permanently. But since that is Microsoft's choice of what to do with cheaters, then so be it. Like I said, I don't think that he should get special treatment just because the media took notice.
Now, in general, I don't think that it's a very fair punishment. I don't know if I really think that anyone should be labelled a cheater permanently. But since that is Microsoft's choice of what to do with cheaters, then so be it. Like I said, I don't think that he should get special treatment just because the media took notice.
If he was so lacking intelligence that you could make statements like that and be valid I doubt he'd be capable of completing the games so completely and in a way that triggers the cheat-detection mechanism.Wardnath said:
Fact is he probably cheated. His autism may have been a deciding factor in causing him to do that, I can't say, but it wouldn't excuse it anyway.