Update: Rumor: Poor Sales May Have Killed Dead Space
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...Because the customer didn't buy it. I'm not saying that they customer was wrong in not buying it. I'm not a Dead Space fan, and I am baffled as to why they decided to change everything for the 3rd installment in a series, but don't say that the customer doesn't hold at least partial responsibility. EA was the one that pulled the trigger (possibly), but the customers (or lack thereof) gave them the ammo.purifico said:
EA's Target: 5 Million
Black Ops 2 Launch Day: 11 Million
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2): 12 million
They knew what they were getting themselves into.
I swear, there has to be some way for the Developers to get out of there, I mean, just SOMETHING, unfair conditions, noting how they are all fired following a Game's Failure, ANYTHING!
Black Ops 2 Launch Day: 11 Million
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2): 12 million
They knew what they were getting themselves into.
I swear, there has to be some way for the Developers to get out of there, I mean, just SOMETHING, unfair conditions, noting how they are all fired following a Game's Failure, ANYTHING!
OOPS... damn spell check... I mean *Origin... I just pulled a Capcom... didn't I?FalloutJack said:
Noooo! You don't say! Taking a game and completely changing it from a horror game and turning it into a co-op game killed it? And EA deny it? Nooo! Balderdash!
Il agree its partial, although very very (very very very very very) minimal.thebobmaster said:
It was their job to put out something that consumers would want to buy and they didnt. Its not our fault we didnt want it nor is it our responsibility to perchase any product we see. People had been voicing concerns for a while and they steam rolled ahead ignoring the complaints and then released something we didnt want to buy.
we cant really be held responsible for that
Hypothesis: Announcement that Dead Space may die drives spurned fans to buy Dead Space 3.
Of course, I don't really see that happening, but it was certainly one of the first thoughts I had upon reading this. It could be EA trying to be clever in their own self-assumed, hand-wringing, giggling softly sort of way that most people who consider themselves Thanatos (but actually aren't) sort of way.
Either way, my cousin was a big fan of Dead Space, and I'll have to ask him if he's surprised by this later. I'm not, but then again I'm wasn't surprised that Miyamoto's requested changes to Paper Mario 3DS caused it to suck. I wonder if Nintendo was surprised.
Of course, I don't really see that happening, but it was certainly one of the first thoughts I had upon reading this. It could be EA trying to be clever in their own self-assumed, hand-wringing, giggling softly sort of way that most people who consider themselves Thanatos (but actually aren't) sort of way.
Either way, my cousin was a big fan of Dead Space, and I'll have to ask him if he's surprised by this later. I'm not, but then again I'm wasn't surprised that Miyamoto's requested changes to Paper Mario 3DS caused it to suck. I wonder if Nintendo was surprised.
If they keep doing what they're doing, I'd be suprised if they don't.Desert Punk said:
Hah, well, the ads are gone today...FalloutJack said:
This site is a game site and of course people read here that buy games. This site is a good investment for marketing. That being said, the sheer volumn of money they threw at marketing is part of the problem. They completely overdo it and they overdo it in every aspect of their product line. Nothing will ever come in at a reasonable budget the way they do it.
The fact that they're doing business poorly and yet are so large is staggering. They need to pick a reasonable budget and stick with it. If someone does that, what comes out is what they can afford, for better or worse. Not some insanely priced game that they can never hope to make a return on. So there's the side where they're doing bad business and the side where they don't get thier audience.
Again, they alienated their core horror fans by specifically turning it into action/adventure and they have already alienated non-horror fans by the series being horror. They took a really successful niche game and plopped it into an area that robbed it of any niche advantage. Dumb EA, dumb. I don't think I needed my business degree to tell me that, but hopefully they'll hire someone soon that has one of their own to help them along.
I agree. The tone of your post that I replied to seemed to indicate that you felt the customer had no bearing on what happened, which wasn't the case. I apologize if I misinterpreted it. I agree that we don't have a moral obligation to buy unwanted games just because others want us to. I just thought you were totally dismissing the fact that the game didn't sell, saying that wasn't the reason it may have been cancelled, because the customer isn't responsible.spartandude said:
Again, not saying that everyone should have bought it just because they liked the franchise name, as that is the kind of thinking that leads to Capcom Sequel Stagnation. I just feel that as far as responsibility for the franchise going down, the fact remains that the customer is somewhat responsible, since the series would have continued if it had sold more. EA is responsible for ending the franchise, and for making the game undesirable to own (well, possibly. Not sure how much control a publisher has in the development of a game). Basically, the game design built the explosive barrel, the lack of buyers created the flame that EA decided to use to light the fuse, if you get my analogy.
man, i seriously wonder who the hell runs sales predictions at EA.
I probably said this before, but ill say it again; i predict major financial problems for EA this year.
I probably said this before, but ill say it again; i predict major financial problems for EA this year.
Don't bet on it man, my future self (from the future I might add) says in 2023 there's a film called "Vengeance: The Rise of MercurySteam"Tomaius said:
I agree with the first part, but you have to admit that the people who like Call of Duty seem to have an insatiable appetite for moar Call of Duty.lithium.jelly said:
Because it's not a "fact" and they're not stupid. Look at Mass Effect. EA bought it and turned it into Gears of War Lite and voila! Mass Effect 2 was born, and sold way more copies than Mass Effect 1. Sometimes changing a franchise to appeal to the good old "broader audience" does pay off. Financially, I mean.RicoADF said:
Actually, if you think about it, CODifying games works far more often than it doesn't. It's easy to take away the lesson, then, that this is the direction to take. Especially when you consider the statement you're agreeing with is only speculation.RicoADF said:
I'm liking the sound of that. Will there be punching? I'm guessing there will be some punching....Lovely Mixture said: