If you don't want to get accused of saying stupid shit, maybe don't make the "separate but equal" argument.
And the trans people effected by things like this? Do they not get a say?
Utah creates 5 person commission to regulate one trans girl playing sports
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I didn't make a separate but equal argument.
Anyone can say whatever they want, doesn't mean things will go the way you want. Show me a place where trans women are getting kicked out of women's are getting kicked out of because of actual hate, and I'll be on your side 100%.
See, you've already played your hand. I could show you videos of a trans woman getting beaten while the attacker calls her slurs, and you would still find some way to insist it's not actual hate.
Sorry dude, but if you wanted to have an intelligent conversation on this, you shouldn't have made your own intellectual dishonesty so well-known on this forum.
How long was your coma? Like, the trans woman who was good at Jeopardy was thrown plenty of hate. As was the trans woman who was good at eating hot peppers. Trans women good at competative videogames get shit thrown at them constantly
Ignoring the issue would've just let the GOP ban people being transgender.
So, long as somebody has a flimsy excuse, it's all good?
Like, again: the Mormon, conservative governor of Utah sees this as a hateful attack on an extremely small minority of people. What's sold *you* on it?
I'm not fooling anyone. I'm stating the truth. That politician may very well also be stating the truth, I've not said anything to dispute him, I've disputed the ridiculous caricature being made of the bill. See below:
This bill does not involve genital inspection. Why would it even? It's a commission to determine if a trans girl is eligible for girls sports, using whatever evidence they'd like to make their case with. If the youth has a vagina, they're not going to be in this position in the first place. If they have a penis, it doesn't help their case. Not only is this commission not tasked with genital inspections, there is no situation where it would inspire one. You're just being silly.
To answer you're question: why would it? Because that's what the Olympics used to do
There are two SEPARATE bills in the article. One is banning any change on a birth certificate. Another banning anyone who is transgender from playing.
It's in the same paragraph
Edit: It actually says law, not bill. I don't know if its separate bills, but they are seperate laws
I find the "I wouldn't care about the gender on my birth certificate being wrong unless it fucked up the bureaucracy the flows from it" argument to be hilarious because the main reason people want to change their birth certificates is because it fucks up the bureaucracy that flows from it. Like, that's reason #1.
Just no thought being put in at all.
Just no thought being put in at all.
This was the previous solution
They are worried that it's going to regress back to this
Conservatives will couch their beliefs in "biology" until biology doesn't align with what they learned in church or primary school, then they immediately fall back on magic.
Science is a lot like Hollywood to conservatives. It possesses an immense cultural cache that conservatives desperately crave for themselves, but it keeps telling them things they don't want to hear.
What actual government policy is hating on trans people? You can't stop people from hating other people. Nobody that is for fair competition in women's sports is hating on trans women.
OMG, I didn't think I'd need to put an exception of "random people hating on other people because that what's people have always done" in there. There's always some people hating on others that are different, you're not going to stop that outside of the culture changing over time. Do we need to fight for fat rights because people call other people fat? There hasn't been any government policy that is singling out trans people because of hate. Is there some government bill pending about no trans allowed on Jeopardy or hot pepper eating contests?
Sports is separated by sex, not gender. Simple as that.
So what that you can't change SEX on your birth certificate? What the fuck does that matter? The law isn't banning trans people from playing sports, stop saying stuff that isn't true. Sports is separated by SEX, not gender. Trans people have not been banned from playing sports anywhere in the US.
Conservatives followed science more than democrats during covid. The 2 top FDA officials quit because Biden was not following the science.
Laughing doesn't make it any less true.
Florida out-performed Michigan, one of the most restrictive states for covid. Illinois had ridiculous covid policies (I live in Cook County and did everything in Indiana because it was open the whole time) and all Illinois policies did was allow it to get tied with Florida.
States Ranked by Age-Adjusted COVID Deaths
Cumulative age-adjusted COVID deaths per capita by state, updated weekly. The Pacific Northwest, Hawaii, and Upper New England have fewer COVID deaths.
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Way to pick one or two data-points that help serve an argument, rather than the overall trend.Florida out-performed Michigan, one of the most restrictive states for covid. Illinois had ridiculous covid policies (I live in Cook County and did everything in Indiana because it was open the whole time) and all Illinois policies did was allow it to get tied with Florida.
States Ranked by Age-Adjusted COVID Deaths
Cumulative age-adjusted COVID deaths per capita by state, updated weekly. The Pacific Northwest, Hawaii, and Upper New England have fewer COVID deaths.
As a trend, more Republican-run states are performing worse than more Democrat-run states.
Yes, yes, you're very knowledgeable in epidemiology in a way no professional scientist is, we know.
But if said policies work, then they would work. Surely, some blue state with tons of restrictions should out-perform Florida with its eyes closed if said policies work, right? I mean, the left wing media calls the Florida governor Death-Santis, yet he did better than half of them.
As a trend more republican states are less healthy, notice any similarities between the worst performing covid states and the following list?
