ValiDate, a Dating Sim

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Ehh, maybe, its not rapey is it? Cause rapey annoys me.
Uhhhhh..... Probably in a different way than what you're thinking but maybe you're not into monster girls anyway. Most of my VN collection doesn't go into tentacle territory, only Demonbane really goes there but the tentacle scenes lack uh.... half of your word. Look, probably best to wait for Dreiko or someone else to give you a suggestion.
 

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Yes, says the guy with the MLP avatar and that posts mlp reaction memes. What is your point? That I have fantastic taste? Cause I already know that.
I think it's more the tendency for MLP fans to flood threads for pages and pages with pony stuff, something I know you've threatened to do (probably jokingly, but there is a lot of precedent for it to happen). So to say "why has a thread gone on for multiple pages about a pointless topic" seems ironic, considering the capacity for pony flooding.

That was my thought at least when I saw your post.
 

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I think it's more the tendency for MLP fans to flood threads for pages and pages with pony stuff, something I know you've threatened to do (probably jokingly, but there is a lot of precedent for it to happen). So to say "why has a thread gone on for multiple pages about a pointless topic" seems ironic, considering the capacity for pony flooding.

That was my thought at least when I saw your post.
I think Worgen was implying they'd be more ok with it if there was some actual porn.
 

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Yes, says the guy with the MLP avatar and that posts mlp reaction memes. What is your point? That I have fantastic taste? Cause I already know that.
I think the point is obvious, kettle. But do go on, you're the one complaining about the length of the thread anyway.
 

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Even if this game did have porn in it, ValiDate would not be worth it. You can find plenty of VNs that fulfill that goal at a better price or for free.
 

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I think it's more the tendency for MLP fans to flood threads for pages and pages with pony stuff, something I know you've threatened to do (probably jokingly, but there is a lot of precedent for it to happen). So to say "why has a thread gone on for multiple pages about a pointless topic" seems ironic, considering the capacity for pony flooding.

That was my thought at least when I saw your post.
Mostly jokingly, I would get bored of it quick if I was the only one doing it.

I think Worgen was implying they'd be more ok with it if there was some actual porn.
Generally yeah, I mean at least then we could have an interesting discussion about sexuality.

I think the point is obvious, kettle. But do go on, you're the one complaining about the length of the thread anyway.
Because this is like what appears to be just a somewhat normal dating type sim and aside from one or two odd character profiles doesn't really seem worth much of a discussion.

That's always bothered me. What if we worked at Pornhub? Then SFW is very different
Try not to think what NSFW would mean if you worked at pornhub. That would probably be some pretty nasty shit.
 
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Because this is like what appears to be just a somewhat normal dating type sim and aside from one or two odd character profiles doesn't really seem worth much of a discussion.
And yet here you are clocking in your 20th comment, in a thread that has 107 so far and therefore makes you responsible for almost 20% of the discussion you're telling everyone to stop having.
 

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And yet here you are clocking in your 20th comment, in a thread that has 107 so far and therefore makes you responsible for almost 20% of the discussion you're telling everyone to stop having.
Some people are leaders, some are followers.
 

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This whole game seems cringe-inducingly juvenile and racist. The developer also needs a better proof reader.
I hate to say this but that might be deliberate with the developer attempting to or actually properly writing in ebonics.

You 'come on', we saw people railing against a fucken dinosaur VN game for reasons that are impossible to grasp.
You can still see some of it on the steam forums even after that was cleaned up

You can even just look at the like/dislike bar on the original trailer for it to see the sheer amount of hate it got.
In fairness to the internet that might be because the developer just happens to be a games journalist.

A games journalist who posted on Kotaku content that technically would count as CP because it contain a CGI schoolgirl Hermione.........

So yeh it may not be because of what you expect.


Yeah but people use any old excuse to shit on a thing.

I mean take Validate for example, it's pretty clear the audience they are going for with the game. The problem is, those people are not being shown in a good light by the bios listed here. A lot of it is the stereotypical of the SJW extremist mentality.

Whether a product is pandering or not, nothing that is clearly aimed towards the "SJW's" ever succeeds. The only game or movie that has been remotely successful that fits kinda into the label of "SJW"-game is Life is Strange. Beyond that i can't think of a single financial piece of media that was successful trying this approach.

Now if they want to invest in making these products anyway, great. But don't cry foul when they fail because your target audience is too small to actually make something a success.
Well some does...... though mostly the success is the creator getting the money and the product never happening.
E.G. The Feminist Deck project....whose project creator was more interested in her weed strains review channel on youtube.


Do you even have any idea what the audiance this game is aimed at is? It doesn't matter anyway, they are making money on patreon so it sounds like this is what their audience wants, its not a ton of money but it is money.

Lets see, what games could be considered SJW. Well, we have the aformentioned 'Life is Strange' which I suppose would be, then I guess 'Undertale' would fit that too, I suppose the 'Borderlands' games could be SJW giving the diversity of the characters, I've heard people rail against 'Dragon Age' for being SJW so lets throw that in there too, fuck I remember seeing people ***** about 'Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice' as being SJW because she wasn't hot so that goes on the list also.
Sorry to pour cold water on this by Toby Fox doesn't like his game being used for political ends so much so the subreddit has a no politics rules. So He count more as a progressive than a full on SJW type.

as for Senua's Sacrifice...........you underestimate my power or weird kink for sort of Pagan esc aesthetic.


The art style offends my sensibilities way more than the bios of these beings.


Now, here's the real question; is this more or less cringe-worthy than the recent Gamer Girl simpulator where you play as a stream-chat-moderator of an e-thot?
That at least looks so cheesy and bad it could be worth playing if it goes on sale for cheap.
 

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I would point to the people who complained that Abby in The Last of Us 2 was visibly buff for a woman, even though women with that physique actually exist in real life and it would make sense for a woman in that situation to need to be physically strong. But that's a problem to people who want women in games to be helpless and weak eye-candy, so that they can be won like prizes.

A few points on that.

1) Abby technically is a combination of 3 different women. 1 for the body, 1 for the face and 1 who did the voice acting and apparently Mo-cap.

2) No the "real women can exist who look like her" argument isn't a valid one especially not in the post apocalypse. Mostly because they it's based round manipulation of the human body's systems and women who do look like that generally only maintain it for I think it's 6 weeks out of a 12 week cycle at most.

3) Video on it all for you.


4) It's been found out they actually still buffed Abby up somewhat beyond the person whose body they scanned and based her on

5) People are fine with Ellie. Hell there's plenty of Kickass women in geek media. I mean come on you realise Buffy exists as a franchise right?

42% of their budget to merch and 20 devs? I can see exactly what went wrong now. Too many people at once full of terrible ideas and some of them had the "genius" plan to make merch for their dating sim that isn't even out yet. What's with this project? It sounds like a titanic dumpster fire waiting to happen
I worked out based on their tiers they're charging $75 for a custom Tote bag.
I get they're looking to make some profit but I worked it out and including shipping you can probably custom print your own for $20-$30 and that's not including things like bulk discounts you can get.


That's kind of the problem isn't it? These people just expect to be able to put out trash and demand that it's a hit. They expect it to be successful just because it's inclusive or whatever.

It's the same mentality that says, "we need more women and people of color doing X job". As if just stick someone there who meets such a superficial criteria is an automatic road to success.

When the media blames men because Charlies Angel's sucks, they say men wont support a female driven action film. Almost as if the Alien's franchise doesn't exist.

When the media blames white people for why a person of color can't be a super hero. Almost as if they haven't seen Spawn. or anything Denzel Washington and The Rock make.

People will support anything that's good, and just making your trash "diverse" doesn't give you the right to automatically be praised. Frankly I think it is a con job like what Anita Sarkeesian did. Where is Feminist Frequency these days? I know Anita is chilling like a queen somewhere, meanwhile all her employees got fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.

EDIT: Turns out she makes podcasts with the same two people she's managed to keep around. Wonder how their making money on those >10k viewership non--videos.
I heard a suggestion about this before.

It's one of two things,

1) the media constantly underestimates people and thinks they don't have the attention span to remember.

Or a more worrying

2) It's a testing method to see how many people are "On message". I wish I was joking but apparently it happens in dictatorships where they put out complete bullshit news like how North Korea claims how it's teams win everything and it's leader invented all this stuff and can fly and cure any disease via a touch. The populous know it's lies mostly but the plan is to demoralise people by forcing them to accept the lie or people stand up and then people know those individuals could be trouble and can more specifically target them. In the case of the media at present it's more likely to give the "faithful" who blindly follow the line they put out some-one to declare an enemy. Then said agitator media can sit back and report on the fights they in part helped start.
 

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A few points on that.

1) Abby technically is a combination of 3 different women. 1 for the body, 1 for the face and 1 who did the voice acting and apparently Mo-cap.

2) No the "real women can exist who look like her" argument isn't a valid one especially not in the post apocalypse. Mostly because they it's based round manipulation of the human body's systems and women who do look like that generally only maintain it for I think it's 6 weeks out of a 12 week cycle at most.

3) Video on it all for you.


4) It's been found out they actually still buffed Abby up somewhat beyond the person whose body they scanned and based her on
She’s not really that big though. Bigger than a normal looking female, sure. But it mostly depends on the perspective or camera angle like at 3:30 in the below clip -


Also, testosterone isn’t as vital for size in women as the hormone is processed differently in them vs men. But, men and women have generally the same capabilities of building natural muscle mass, with the main difference merely being the starting point.
 
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In fairness to the internet that might be because the developer just happens to be a games journalist.

A games journalist who posted on Kotaku content that technically would count as CP because it contain a CGI schoolgirl Hermione.........

So yeh it may not be because of what you expect.
That would actually make it worse since it would be dipshits with motivated reasoning hating on it because someone involved in it is involved with Kotaku. Which would mean the downvotes were probably part of a concentrated campaign by those 'kotaku in action' morons.

I know that Kotaku does sex positive articles but I don't remember seeing a Hermione one, but I don't want to get into the discussion in this thread about what cg counts as or not or the difference between loli and whatever. You can make a new thread for that.

EDIT: wait, I think I might have found the article. How is this CP? This is just the writer reporting on a crowdfunding game that was making $5000 a month and no one is naked.


Sorry to pour cold water on this by Toby Fox doesn't like his game being used for political ends so much so the subreddit has a no politics rules. So He count more as a progressive than a full on SJW type.

as for Senua's Sacrifice...........you underestimate my power or weird kink for sort of Pagan esc aesthetic.
I don't care about that. I wouldn't really consider any game sjw, that list is mainly games I've heard attacked as such. As I said before SJW is so poorly defined it can mean almost anything left wing and tends to just be used in the pejorative. At least back in the day when it was the go to insult, kinda lost its luster by now though.
 
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She’s not really that big though. Bigger than a normal looking female, sure. But it mostly depends on the perspective or camera angle like at 3:30 in the below clip -


Also, testosterone isn’t as vital for size in women as the hormone is processed differently in them vs men. But, men and women have generally the same capabilities of building natural muscle mass, with the main difference merely being the starting point.
I seem to remember it's actually a 17% difference in capability in building muscle.

If there was no difference Caster Semenya wouldn't be having to take essentially hormone blockers.

Even within women a testosterone difference between those with naturally lower vs naturally higher produces a 1.8% to 4.5% difference

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That would actually make it worse since it would be dipshits with motivated reasoning hating on it because someone involved in it is involved with Kotaku. Which would mean the downvotes were probably part of a concentrated campaign by those 'kotaku in action' morons.

I know that Kotaku does sex positive articles but I don't remember seeing a Hermione one, but I don't want to get into the discussion in this thread about what cg counts as or not or the difference between loli and whatever. You can make a new thread for that.

EDIT: wait, I think I might have found the article. How is this CP? This is just the writer reporting on a crowdfunding game that was making $5000 a month and no one is naked.

Wrong article.
I won't link the right one but it's titled
"Animated video game porn could be a lot sexier and less gross"

The article originally contained images of a CGI schoolgirl Hermione among other stuff. It's since been edited to remove most of said images.

I don't care about that. I wouldn't really consider any game sjw, that list is mainly games I've heard attacked as such. As I said before SJW is so poorly defined it can mean almost anything left wing and tends to just be used in the pejorative. At least back in the day when it was the go to insult, kinda lost its luster by now though.
I'd say some games are very much more overt and what I'd call SJW. rather than just progressive as such.
 

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Wrong article.
I won't link the right one but it's titled
"Animated video game porn could be a lot sexier and less gross"

The article originally contained images of a CGI schoolgirl Hermione among other stuff. It's since been edited to remove most of said images.
Removed all of the images it looks like.


I'd say some games are very much more overt and what I'd call SJW. rather than just progressive as such.
Gonna give some examples?
 

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Removed all of the images it looks like.



Gonna give some examples?
Sunset
Life is Strange 2
If it ever comes out that Chuck Tingle video game
Battleborn (They made a big deal, bigger than Overwatch about diverse characters and non sexualised female characters and how some characters were non binary)
 

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More on topic.

Some-one on Reddit did some digging and found that some of the backgrounds in the demo appear just to be edited Google Image search images.

In game


Google Image

 

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More on topic.

Some-one on Reddit did some digging and found that some of the backgrounds in the demo appear just to be edited Google Image search images.

In game


Google Image

That's why your art budget is so high! Googling is hard.

I remember that article and Kotaku got in trouble because it featured outright porno graphic images with no age gating. They literally let that person just post porn on Kotaku no filter.
 
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That's why your art budget is so high! Googling is hard.
And recolouring them takes so much effort too, don't forget. Also, that image in the demo... I knew this was gonna be an issue, looking at it and the character bios, but... everyone looks like they have the most punch-able face