Valve Guy Makes His Half-Life 3 T-Shirt Talk
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Irrelevant.ResonanceGames said:
Even if, by your hypothesis, Valve had given absolutely no thought to Gordon Freeman from 2007 until recently, they'll still take years to make the game (Valve perfectionism + monster expectations from the fans after all these years), and we'll still go that much longer since we saw anything of Gordon. That leads to the same end for me: tired of waiting for almost a decade and moving on to something else.
How is that irrelevant to your point that it only takes most developers two years to produce their sequels? You shouldn't have made that point if that's not what you meant. But you did, and I responded accordingly.Undead Dragon King said:
Half-Life 3: Gordon Freeman Forever... just doesn't sound right. But it is going to take the cake from DNF for making ppl wait for-goddamn-ever.
I should have been clearer in my main point then. My main point is that either by slow design or complete non-action, Valve has neglected their flagship series to the point where it's no longer becoming relevant. The fact that most gamers expect studios to be more productive with their individual IP's than Valve has been (six game releases since the last Half Life is not a good way to remind people that Half Life is relevant today), and the point that gamers are now accustomed to a sequel every two-three years was a minor supporting point. Harping on that alone and completely ignoring the main point is why I said that it was irrelevant to the main argument.ResonanceGames said:
It's understandable that you feel that way and you explained it well. I think I can offer a missing piece of the puzzle.Undead Dragon King said:
If you've kept up with what Newell said about their "episodic" phase, it's over. They (Valve) decided they didn't want to make episodic installments anymore but the problem resides within the vocal fanbase which has left them confused over how they should release their games. Around the time that l4d1 came out, the thing that these fans were pressing them for were quick turn-arounds in content (sequels).
Newell said that they delivered that with l4d2 but in a strange hypocritical turn, the fanbase said that they didn't want them to make sequels too early and although people such as myself loved the game and can't go back to part 1, the main problem (which was correct) was that it was an upgrade, though moderate, in features (which is how other developers would handle their franchises and call it a day).
Newell in turn said that Valve won't make sequels that way anymore. Thus Valve's only problem is trying to please it's fans (as many respectable developers do) and unfortunately the most vocal of them are the bunch that would rather be heard but not reasoned with as well as show unsatisfaction to anything and everything.
If we could get more people who care about giving Valve honest but insightful feedback on their work, they can better recognize the fans that care and deliver what's asked for, and if what's asked for isn't exactly what's needed, then we get mixed reception and results.
its great that half-life is so good that fan's freak out when they see shirt with its logo. on that note: HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CAN'T WAIT. GORDON I'M COMING!!!
Guys, when has valve EVER released something disappointing? If gaben wants to take 40 years to make a game we can all be sure it is going to be a great game.
Yeah, that one isn't gabe newell compatible.viking97 said:
At this point I'm just eagerly awaiting the day that Gabe Newell goes to e3, pulls out a copy of Episode 3 or Half-life 3, and says to the audience: "YOU CAN'T HAVE THIS NANANANANANA."
They see me trollin'
...And then the fans storm the stage and there's a massive brawl as everyone tries to grab it for themselves, then the military is called in to uh... "secure" ...the copy in the name of national security and they lock it away in a government vault only to find the disk was blank!Blind Sight said: