Vegetarianism
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I could not agree with you more. However, I do respect individuals who practice vegetarianism due to health concerns. I'll be the first to admit that I eat way more red meat than could possibly be healthy, not to mention the lack of green in my diet. To everyone who does practice vegetarianism on moral grounds, and who also feels the need to tell everyone about it, please keep your lives consistent. I don't see how fish deserve to live any less than mammals.Cuniculus said:
BTW, has anyone else noticed that the sea creatures people seem most keen on protecting are mammals, e.g. dolphins and whales. What's with all the class prejudice?
Malnutrition, mental instability (from said malnutrition). You'll have to get used to either popping vitamens or eating vveerryy similar stuff for the rest of your life.Chartic said:
But since other people are jumping on the flame bandwagon I'll point out that we have evolved/given by god, Canines and inscisors for the PURPOSE of eating meat because it makes a superior species and is th most efficient way of getting all the nutrients etc we need to develop quickly and become the strongest.
So basically you are gonna end up a skinny pansy who regular omnivores can snap in half like a twiglet.
Good for you. I am a vegetarian as well but I really only do it because I don't like the taste of meat.
Technically not vegetarian but piscatarian if you still eat fish. You should be fine. Just find things that you like that will give you the right minerals. Quorn and tofu if cooked correctly can be very nice, despite what some people think. Dairy products are also helpful although over-indulging in dairy might not be too healthy. If all else fails you can pick up some mineral tablets specialised for veganism and vegetarianism that make up your lack of some minerals.
Well done by the way!
Well done by the way!
Or he can go back to a therapist, work out his issues and return to being an omnivore since is logic is frighteningly bad and is an extremely poor excuse for becoming a vegetarian. Especially when there are far worse issues in the word today.doomdiver_16 said:
Where the hell did you get that piece of nonsense from? Plants have no nervous system and therefore no feeling whatsoever. I'd refrain from citing ridiculous things like that as fact.JaredXE said:
You sir obviously do not know what you are talking about. Just because they don't have a mammal's nervous system does not mean they do not feel pain. Plants are smarter than you give them credit for.Zealot1011 said:
DALLAS--Research scientists at Baylor Medical Center have proven that plants, including vegetables, feel pain when subjected to trauma such as being yanked out of the ground, peeled, cooked, and eaten. "Veggies and plants initiate a massive hormone and chemical barrage internally when they suffer any kind of injury," says professor Barry Lindzer. "This response is akin to the nerve response and endorphin release when an animal is injured. We cannot ignore the similarities."Zealot1011 said:
Or:
Plant Brain: Each root apex harbours a unit of nervous system of plants. The number of root apices in the plant body is high and all brain-units are interconnected via vascular strands (plant nerves) with their polarly-transported auxin (plant neurotransmitter), to form a serial (parallel) nervous system of plants. The computational and informational capacity of this nervous system based on interconnected parallel units is predicted to be higher than that of the diffuse nervous system of lower animals, or the central nervous system of higher animals/humans.
So, to restate a TRUE FACT: Plants feel pain.
Also, I agree with Jasoncyrus. The human digestive system has evolved to eat meat and vegetation. We get very little nourishment from anything other than fruit, however (in terms of the plants we eat). We are very good, however, at efficiently digesting meat and meat products.
Vegetarians who eat fish are known as psuedo-vegetarians or partial vegetarians. tofu (soy) is an excellent source of protein and a generally healthy food. Some more food for thought... Everything is eventually eaten by something else, be it a wolf, a human or microscopic bacteria. We all take our place in the ciiiirrrrcllee... the circle of liiiiifffeee.
Personally, I find it easy to overlook the way the animals are treated because meat is delicious. Of course I completely respect you if you choose not to eat it. I mean no offense from this, but someone sent me this picture the other day and I thought it was funny.
Eating a combination of beans and brown rice is a great way to get whole protiens in your diet. You can replace fish with eggs from cage-free, vegetarian-fed chickens as your primary source of vitamin B-12(And don't worry about eating baby chickens or anything like that. When chickens don't mate, they just lay the unfertilized eggs, similar to a woman's period). There are also many special brands of prepackaged foods that are very vegetarian friendly, like Tofurky, Amy's Kitchen, or Quorn(You'll just have to check out all your local stores to see who sells them). And, whatever you do, don't eat anything with gelatin.
If you eat the right foods, and do the right research, you won't have to take pills or sacrifice taste, as many of the posters before me have implied(The only reason you'd have to take pills is if you decided to go full vegan, in which case, you'd need B-12 supplements). I also am a vegetarian, so I understand a lot of your concerns. I do wish you the best of luck, if you decide to stick with this lifestyle choice. It can be hard, and people won't understand it, but it's still very rewarding.
If you eat the right foods, and do the right research, you won't have to take pills or sacrifice taste, as many of the posters before me have implied(The only reason you'd have to take pills is if you decided to go full vegan, in which case, you'd need B-12 supplements). I also am a vegetarian, so I understand a lot of your concerns. I do wish you the best of luck, if you decide to stick with this lifestyle choice. It can be hard, and people won't understand it, but it's still very rewarding.
Try to eat lots of nuts and pop some multi vitamins. Just do your own research it's not hard to find out what food has what vitamins and what you need that isnt meat
Who are you to criticize his beliefs? How is discriminating for a moral belief any better than discriminating over a religious belief?jasoncyrus said:
Also by your logic we should ignore theft because murder is a worse threat to the world. If he believes killing animals is wrong and can make a difference as easy as changing his diet why shouldn't he?
Just because you have a different viewpoint to him it doesn't mean you shouldn't respect it.
You know, something I don't understand is if the vegans are right and human kind was NEVER meant to eat animal products, why then do they have to take suppliments in order to stay healthy? Shouldn't their body just naturally be well adjusted to eating what we were all meant to eat?
That is, if they aren't just a bunch of crazy people.
That is, if they aren't just a bunch of crazy people.