Videogames Made Halo 3 Killer Do It After All

olicon

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Personally, I think any 16 years old who does not recognize the fact that real people do not respawn is definitely crazy, and has to be put away. I don't think any hobby can drive a person to such extent as to be..you know, entirely insane.
With that said, I have to say that I do think video game addiction (and conflicts that stem from it) can certainly drive a person to murder. After all, much more trivial things have. But to blame the actual murder part on the fact that someone is mimicking a computer game is just outrageous. Especially for a 16 years old to be that detached form reality, I would have to order his school administrator to be executed.
 

PirateKing

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I find it strange that people are ready to blame video games for deaths, but alcohol is still legal. I mean, drunk drivers kill loads of people every year. I don't have the statistics obviously, but myabe we should remove the things that actually do harm?
But then again, there was prohibition and that proved banning things doesn't work. I don't know.
 

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Regardless of any violent influences Halo may have had on him (I'm in Aus so this news is new to me, but it seems a little weird that the violence in Halo make him kill his parents if he wasn't allowed to play it... o_O?) he's 16. He's old enough to play the game without parental supervision (by AUS standards), and he's old enough to understand the repercussions of such violence. Perhaps an infant or a young child could be forgiven for imitating the actions and not understanding that such violence should not be carried out in the real world, but he's nearly an adult!
Besides, Halo 3 makes it very clear about how bad it is to kill the 'good guys' (AKA any human). At the beginning of Crows Nest, if you kill any of the marines, the whole facility will hunt you down and shoot you. Hey look, a video game that teaches us about consequences! YAY!
Video games are NOT a justifiable reason for murder or any other form of violence, merely an inadequate and cowardly excuse.
 

ExplosionProofTaco

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Schizo Gamers like him give their fellow gamers a bad name.

If his parents knew about the 360's parental control capablities this would have happened.
 

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I figured out that people die forever when I was 5 I think. I started playing video games when I was 6. Saying that Daniel had no idea that his parents would be gone forever when he shot them is right up there with saying that cartoons are convincing children that if you drop an anvil on someone's head from 1 mile in the air that they will survive and return after the next commercial. God forbid people who fear that they do not know enough about video games could learn more by playing one for a couple of minutes. Wii sports and peggle still exist for curious adults.
 

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This Court's opinion is that we don't know enough about these video games. In this particular case, not so much the violence of the game because I believe in the Halo 3, what it amounts to is a contest to see who can shoot the most aliens who attack.

It's my firm belief that after a while the same physiological responses occur that occur in the ingestion of some drugs. And I believe that an addiction to these games can do the same thing. The dopamine surge, the stimulation of the nucleus accumbens - the same as an addiction.
Self-contradictory much?
 

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Malygris said:
Here's the part I'm having trouble getting my head around.

And bear in mind that I live in Canada, so that may have something to do with my lack of comprehension in this particular matter.

But in all the arguments and debates and commentary about whether or not Halo 3 had anything to do with this, I haven't seen one person - not a single one - point out that nobody would've been shot at all if there hadn't been a fucking loaded gun in the house.

Kinda weird, eh?
Yes, but to many Americans, Guns and the private ownership thereof are an unmitigated good, despite the fact that cases like this prove that the level of competence in gun safety among the general populace is dangerously wanting.
 

Inco

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Ooh, not the fact that he's a freaking psychopath that would easily, gladly kill both his parents out of spite, revenge. Nope. The videogames. They were the cause.

Would it have been any different if he was addicted to bad B zombie movies, and he wasn't allowed to see those?

.. I don't like stereotyping, but christ. He looks like a thug.
Agreed, plain and simple youre not stereotyping he does look like a thug, like most of the guys i see when i go walking at 1-4 am in the morning, who are smoking, taking drugs and destroying cars.
 

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Fingolfin High-King of the Noldor said:
This is just complete nonsense. Just because people watch TV they don't try driving off of cliffs thinking they will survive.
If only you'd been here 10 hours ago =(
 

Sparrowsabre7

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The Rogue Wolf said:
Malygris said:
"This Court's opinion is that we don't know enough about these video games. In this particular case, not so much the violence of the game because I believe in the Halo 3, what it amounts to is a contest to see who can shoot the most aliens who attack."

"It's my firm belief that after a while the same physiological responses occur that occur in the ingestion of some drugs. And I believe that an addiction to these games can do the same thing. The dopamine surge, the stimulation of the nucleus accumbens - the same as an addiction. Such that when you stop, your brain won't stand for it," he continued. "The other dangerous thing about these games, in my opinion, is that when these changes occur, they occur in an environment that is delusional. Because you can shoot these aliens, and they're there again the next day. You have to shoot them again. And I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."
...okay, I'm sorry, what?

I think we do know enough about "these video games" by an overwhelming amount of real-world evidence- i.e. TENS OF MILLIONS OF GAMERS WHO HAVE NOT SHOT THEIR PARENTS- to know that this was a case of an abberant mentality seizing upon one particular adverse circumstance as justification for violence. If it hadn't been a game, it might have been a girl, or a television show, or scheduling a Bible studies class.

Let's quit feeding the technophobia. "These video games" do not turn sweet, loving children into cold-blooded killing machines. There were deep-seated issues here, and Halo 3 was simply the random spark that lit the fuse.
Woah, woah hold the phone!....You HAVEN'T killed your parents?...oh boy.
 

Eagle Est1986

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Ok then, Halo 3 has sold over 8 million copies and yet only one person has been 'made' crazy by it. Prehaps it's not the game and infact the person was a little unhinged to start with?
 

MissShortosity

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Eagle Est1986 said:
Ok then, Halo 3 has sold over 8 million copies and yet only one person has been 'made' crazy by it. Prehaps it's not the game and infact the person was a little unhinged to start with?
I do believe you have hit the nail on the head there, Eagle
 

undyingdh777

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Every time I see an article like this, the kid is a good 8 times out of 10 a chav.
Also, what ever happened to pointing the finger at movies for turning people into killers. Come on, the video game industry is the proverbial dead horse as the scapegoat to bad parenting (or other issue)
 
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Hrmmmm...maybe the Judge is right. Maybe substances that affect your dopamine levels ARE responsible for crimes.

Let's see, that's sugar, gambling, chocolate, sex, cocaine, nicotine, amphetamines, food in general and AGGRESSION.

So, Aggression is responsible for crimes. Case proven. Let's outlaw that.
 

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Malygris said:
But in all the arguments and debates and commentary about whether or not Halo 3 had anything to do with this, I haven't seen one person - not a single one - point out that nobody would've been shot at all if there hadn't been a fucking loaded gun in the house.

Kinda weird, eh?
It's learned-aversion for me. Many Yanks don't take kindly to having that pointed out, and the great g*n c*ntrol debate that breaks out afterwards produces much heat but little light.

But yeah, unsafe storage of a firearm would be a contributing factor to the shooting in my opinion... more so than Halo 3.

-- Steve
 

LordCraigus

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I'm comforted by the face that eventually those of us brought up around video games will be the ones in power and no longer will they be scapegoated on, at least not as much... that said will we learn from our mistakes and the mistakes of the previous generations or will we continue to scapegoat whatever new, scary thing the kids are in to?
 

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Brokkr said:
"Because you can shoot these aliens, and they're there again the next day. You have to shoot them again. And I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

This just made me cringe. Really? You think that this guy believed that if he killed his parents that they would respawn tomorrow? Really? He was 16... I think that you pretty much understand this part of life at that age.
And so society re-embarks on the glorious train of 'everyone who plays video games is a deeply disturbed serial killer'.

I'll be hiding my Mario stash so nobody frames me when someone stomps a guy to death.