Videogames Made Halo 3 Killer Do It After All

Ashbax

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Eagle Est1986 said:
Jesus Christ, not more of this nonsense.
I hope somebody finally does some serious trails and proves one thing or the other, because I'm sick of people truly not understanding videogames.
I know.

"A contest of shooting the most aliens who attack" Im not sure he gets the concept of halo 3 anyway :/ Also, What kind of 16 year old isnt allowed play halo three? ive seen eight year olds playing it. The most 'Blood' is a tiny droplet after you unload thirty rounds into a guy... And I HATE this crap anyway, Blaming videogames for everything.
 

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Okay only thing I will say is, it was not the game that made him do it, it's his own stupidity. Honestly it was because he COULDNT get the game not because he was influenced by the game, not like he was dressed in a suit of master chief armour and shooting people
 

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I always wonder what people say if there were a child who stoned, or crucified, or whatever his friend, and the friend was willing, and it turned out that this child read, or was read, The Bible on a daily basis.
Ah, what would The Republicans say to that :p
 

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oh dear.... Gears of War.... CoD.... Halo.... all... make... me.... want... to.... KILL!!!

seriously though, no! people dont play video games and then turn into murders.
People who already have that instinct to kill just use it as an excuse. And justice systems are stupid enough to even allow solictors to even try to use it as an excuse.
 

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Isaac Dodgson said:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no god damn it news like THIS makes me want to shoot someone not the actual video games...
agreed.

If they go that nuts over halo, imagine how much we are going to cop after prototype comes out, jesus christ.
 

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If you DON'T take the time out to actually study it and understand it then you CAN'T honestly just accuse it of mind warping violence. For god's sake Halo is one of the least realistic shooters out there and there is no way it would warp people to kill each other. Do a full study in his mind, just because a video game was there does not mean it was the cause. It's the old belief of 'correlation implies causation' let me give another example:
Carbon Dioxide levels have been increasing at the same time as crime levels, therefore carbon dioxide causes crime.
Same thing.
 

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traceur_ said:
Isaac Dodgson said:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no god damn it news like THIS makes me want to shoot someone not the actual video games...
agreed.

If they go that nuts over halo, imagine how much we are going to cop after prototype comes out, jesus christ.
We can only hope that no one runs around with paper-mache blades on their fingers/arms trying to rampage through a city. We may just have to draw the line on that one.
 

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SharPhoe said:
traceur_ said:
Isaac Dodgson said:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no god damn it news like THIS makes me want to shoot someone not the actual video games...
agreed.

If they go that nuts over halo, imagine how much we are going to cop after prototype comes out, jesus christ.
We can only hope that no one runs around with paper-mache blades on their fingers/arms trying to rampage through a city. We may just have to draw the line on that one.
if it's just paper mache then that would be hilarious
 

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Brokkr said:
"Because you can shoot these aliens, and they're there again the next day. You have to shoot them again. And I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

This just made me cringe. Really? You think that this guy believed that if he killed his parents that they would respawn tomorrow? Really? He was 16... I think that you pretty much understand this part of life at that age.
That was the defene they gave?!

Wow...certain people need mind-probing to fix them...
 
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Hi! I'm the Devil's advocate.

Malygris said:
"it's my firm belief as a human being - and not as a jurist - that Daniel does suffer from a serious defect of the mind," Burge said in a transcript put together by GamePolitics [http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/01/13/judge-comes-down-hard-video-games-halo-3-murder-trial]. "This Court's opinion is that we don't know enough about these video games. ... I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."
What the judge said is not totally unreasonable, for three reasons.

1. He said "we don't know enough." While that's debatable, it shows that he knows his following statements are an opinion rather than a probable fact. He wants further study, which is no bad thing.

2. He made the statements because they were his personal beliefs, but he didn't let them affect his decision as a judge. Comments like those of the judge are reasonable, if uninformed, opinions when coming from a private citizen. It's only if they are made as part of a legal decision that they are truly worrying. He did his job as a judge, and he exercised his right to free speech as a private citizen, but he kept the two from interfering with each other as was his professional duty.

3. He said video games might have had an effect on Daniel Petric because "Daniel does suffer from a serious defect of the mind". He did not say video games would affect a normal teenager that way, however unwelcome the implication might be.
 

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After another few of these cases you'll need a Gaming-license to show you're mentally capable to play violent games.
 

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Vrex360 said:
If you DON'T take the time out to actually study it and understand it then you CAN'T honestly just accuse it of mind warping violence. For god's sake Halo is one of the least realistic shooters out there and there is no way it would warp people to kill each other. Do a full study in his mind, just because a video game was there does not mean it was the cause. It's the old belief of 'correlation implies causation' let me give another example:
Carbon Dioxide levels have been increasing at the same time as crime levels, therefore carbon dioxide causes crime.
Same thing.
Actually, according to Pastafarianism, the increase in global temperatures is directly linked to the decrease in the global pirate population. Ethiopia has the most pirates and least CO2 emmisions! I'm off to listen to Alestorm. Im doing my part for the planet :D
But seriously, the blame video games for everything has been done to death. Its just getting silly now. Still, at least the judge stuck to the letter of the law.
 

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This is a load of grade-A bullshit. The kid knew exactly what he was doing and performed his murders in cold blood. The fact that he happened to be a gamer and that Halo 3 happened to be involved was because of the circumstances. It does not give him a free pass that allows him to kill people and get away with it.

I swear to God, there is nothing in this world I hate more than assholes who kill people and use the flimsy 'insanity' excuse to defend themselves even though everyone knows they knew what they were doing.
 

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"Because you can shoot these aliens, and they're there again the next day. You have to shoot them again."

You can re-watch movies about killings, You can re-read a book about killings, You can watch the news about killing. What about those medias?
 

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Weird, people blame video games and virtual guns, and no-one bats an eyelash over the fact there was a FREAKIN' GUN in the house. Oh, hypocrisy, thou art a cruel mistress.

traceur_ said:
agreed.

If they go that nuts over halo, imagine how much we are going to cop after prototype comes out, jesus christ.
"Vidja games made me tape knives to my fingurs and stab army men."
 

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the fuc...

Seriously, I can't believe the stupidity of that decision. The murderer isn't to blame, a bunch of evil pixels are!

Okay, so gamers usually contest stories like this but come on... these levels of stupidity should speak for themselves.
 

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"you can shoot these aliens, and they're there again the next day. You have to shoot them again. And I firmly believe that Daniel Petric had no idea, at the time he hatched this plot, that if he killed his parents, they would be dead forever."

now that made me laugh
 

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A thought occurs. Wasent he caught sneaking the game into the house? Now I may be reading wrong but that seams to me like he hadent actually played it yet (if they had found it stuff under a pillow I might assume otherwise) so how can Halo actually be blamed?

However other then this, Im probally gonna be the only person on the thread saying "ya know, videogames probally did cause this". But not by themselves. I was probally a mix of things, like an underlying mental problem, which should have been picked up on by a parent, maby trouble at home/school that should have been adressed by a teacher as well as fairly high impact violence that did it. The violence could have been anything, music, TV, but was unfortunatly games in this case that cause this whole unfortunate occurance.
 

Hugo Artenis Rune

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If I read it right, the game didn't make him into a killer, the LACK of the game made him into a killer..

So the moral is - let the psycho play his games and take his anger issues out on virtual alien thingies instead of mom and pop (who lets face it, were obviously at the pinnacle of good parenting)