Shouldn't give it away so quickly. But it's your choice. Promise rings are basically a way to control you. If you want to lose it, have fun.
Virginity
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And I completely forgot to answer the topic itself so here goes f'reals:
No big deal.
Happens when it happens.
Not sacred in the least.
So on so on.
I do feel the need to step on my little soap-box for a few moments here since it's a phrase I feel desperatly needs an update.
I hate the term "Virgin" since it's so archaeic. For instance: only a woman was a virgin. Sex between two women, did not count. Like, at all. In any way. But that's another topic that's even more stupid.
What I hate about it apart from being a fairly archaeic term I'd hoped we'd grown out of, is the fact that I see it more as "my first intimate experience" and if you then say "well oral sex counts" or something similar... In the end: the question is what do YOU find intimate? To me that's what it all comes down to.
To me for instance, I'm more likely to have good ol' sex with someone than kiss them, because to me that kiss is just more intimate.
When we get to intimacy, it's all about what YOU feel, what YOU think and what YOU feel is right. That's what it all comes down to and I stand by that 100%.
No big deal.
Happens when it happens.
Not sacred in the least.
So on so on.
I do feel the need to step on my little soap-box for a few moments here since it's a phrase I feel desperatly needs an update.
I hate the term "Virgin" since it's so archaeic. For instance: only a woman was a virgin. Sex between two women, did not count. Like, at all. In any way. But that's another topic that's even more stupid.
What I hate about it apart from being a fairly archaeic term I'd hoped we'd grown out of, is the fact that I see it more as "my first intimate experience" and if you then say "well oral sex counts" or something similar... In the end: the question is what do YOU find intimate? To me that's what it all comes down to.
To me for instance, I'm more likely to have good ol' sex with someone than kiss them, because to me that kiss is just more intimate.
When we get to intimacy, it's all about what YOU feel, what YOU think and what YOU feel is right. That's what it all comes down to and I stand by that 100%.
I have to agree with you on this, people use words like love, hate, good, and evil way to loosely. (I could say stuff about love at first sight, but that's a rant for another day.)Aylaine said:My view is, I want to lose it with someone I really care about, and will remember. Not love though, as at the age most people lose it, I really don't think they know what love truly means (it's mostly puppy love in my opinion). This way, I can still have strong feelings and fond memories of that person, but it won't be tied with questions like "were we really in love, if we broke up?" and the like.
With the mind set and lighter morals of todays culture a lot of pressure is put on the youth off today.
-Not a big deal.CODE-D said:
-Definitely not sacred.
-Issue of sale ties back into how much value you or the potential customer place on it. But if you sell it you're still a whore.
-Promise rings are stupid and pointless. Also creepy.
-You should definitely not wait until marriage, that's ridiculous. Knowing if you're sexually compatible with someone is information you kinda want to have before you commit to being married or not.
The breakdown of this particular social issue is sort of a complex and frankly kind of ugly one, going back to fun things like conditioned guilt over natural urges and the associated ownership of the ability to act on those urges. Not pretty, or enlightened.
Virginity isn't something sacred, or frankly even important. It's simply one state of being. No human being has some sort of secret value that can be lost or retained simply by the fact that they have or have not had sex. Placing a great deal of importance is archaic as shit, and not something to hold on to.
No big deal, not sacred BUT I'd sell mine. Honest I would for the right ammount, to get some cash to put towards perhaps sorting out some financial problems, who knows, who cares. In fact the person who would care enough to actually BUY "a virginity" mine or anyone elses, is a twat... come to think of it I'm a twat for thinking mine is worth more than a fiver TBH.
As for waiting, well it's like telling a joke. Time it right and everyone present will enjoy it for what it was. Too early and you've made a twat of yourself. Too late and you've made a twat of yourself but at least you've finally told the joke. But no-one found it funny.
As for waiting, well it's like telling a joke. Time it right and everyone present will enjoy it for what it was. Too early and you've made a twat of yourself. Too late and you've made a twat of yourself but at least you've finally told the joke. But no-one found it funny.
No.CODE-D said:
No.
I think it should be the other way around so I'd actually want to sleep with a virgin.
They're awesome if your sense of accomplishment comes from choosing not to get things done.
The longer you wait, the more catching up you'll have to do. Go for it.
CODE-D said:
It's not a big deal, people are just shallow if they make fun of it. Just take it easy and don't let it bother you, lose it when it feels right to YOU.
*It's no biggie, just a personal "goal" for most people in life, especially during high school.
*Nah, not sacred. The only reason people believe that is because of religion. If religion had never classed it that way, it would probably mean a lot less
*Definitely not something that should be sold. Selling of the body for any reason is not great.
*The rings are completely and utterly stupid.... unless they're being applied in a small town where there's literally nothing else to do? Might help keep down teen pregnacy I suppose...
*Marriage is outdated, and the concept of waiting until then is fundamentally flawed, since sex plays a large part in why couples will stay together. Love is a much better reason. Oppurtunity is not as good as love... but hey, it's oppurtunity. People shouldn't waste the much needed practise for when love comes along heh.
*Nah, not sacred. The only reason people believe that is because of religion. If religion had never classed it that way, it would probably mean a lot less
*Definitely not something that should be sold. Selling of the body for any reason is not great.
*The rings are completely and utterly stupid.... unless they're being applied in a small town where there's literally nothing else to do? Might help keep down teen pregnacy I suppose...
*Marriage is outdated, and the concept of waiting until then is fundamentally flawed, since sex plays a large part in why couples will stay together. Love is a much better reason. Oppurtunity is not as good as love... but hey, it's oppurtunity. People shouldn't waste the much needed practise for when love comes along heh.
not a big deal at all
not sacred at all
Something that can be sold? You mean prostitution? Selling off your virginity seems a bit sleazy...
Promise rings are stupid and just increase sodomy rates.
You should wait for any opportunity you're comfortable with, if that's with some chick you just met at a concert and you have a vague idea what her name was that's fine for you, if it's not until your married I accept that too, but it should be what's comfortable for you, not for your parents or your pastor.
not sacred at all
Something that can be sold? You mean prostitution? Selling off your virginity seems a bit sleazy...
Promise rings are stupid and just increase sodomy rates.
You should wait for any opportunity you're comfortable with, if that's with some chick you just met at a concert and you have a vague idea what her name was that's fine for you, if it's not until your married I accept that too, but it should be what's comfortable for you, not for your parents or your pastor.
1) Not that big of a deal.CODE-D said:
2) ...Eh, I can see valid reasons for both sides.
3) Should not be sold.
4) I think the idea is OK, but not for everyone.
5) Up to the person. Ideally, your first time would be with someone you love, but people have needs and sometimes those needs need to be fucked. XD
When arranged marriages happen and a bride price is involved, the bride herself is almost literally being sold, and her price will almost always vary depending on whether or not she is a virgin. So in that sense, virginity can be sold. Also, virgin (as in new) prostitutes can sell their virginity as any other prostitute would sell the service of sex.jack583 said:
Not a big deal to me, but I know for some girls/guys it is.
Sorta..? Depends on the person.
It is something thats sold.
Pointless and stupid.
Love I guess would be the best, but any opportunity works too.
Sorta..? Depends on the person.
It is something thats sold.
Pointless and stupid.
Love I guess would be the best, but any opportunity works too.
Love the bit people forget. No sex until marriage+ two virgin partners that remain monogamous= no more STD's ever (Barring drug use, which they can just die imho... or rape, but I've got my own set of views on that).
given that people aren't going to do that...
Yes, but not in the way most people think
Never heard of a faith that calls virginity 'sacred' (with the exception of a certain sect of greeks, who thought virginity+becoming a eunuch gave you visions...)
Selling... Whores. Nope sorry, no respect from me for them.
Promise Rings? Might have been a nice idea if people weren't amoral dicks who use them for control or as a parent placating meaningless gesture.
Marriage... AIDS sucks from what I hear.
Lets see... lost it to an uncle at age 9. Probably why I'm asexual.
given that people aren't going to do that...
Yes, but not in the way most people think
Never heard of a faith that calls virginity 'sacred' (with the exception of a certain sect of greeks, who thought virginity+becoming a eunuch gave you visions...)
Selling... Whores. Nope sorry, no respect from me for them.
Promise Rings? Might have been a nice idea if people weren't amoral dicks who use them for control or as a parent placating meaningless gesture.
Marriage... AIDS sucks from what I hear.
Lets see... lost it to an uncle at age 9. Probably why I'm asexual.
I rust my opinion is non-mainstream enough?Mr.logic said:
Not that big of a deal really only a big deal because people in high school seem to look down on you for it (but then again what do I know I'm a virgin)CODE-D said:
not scared
hey do what you want
pointless and stupid
at least love for me